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nygiants16 : 10/29/2020 5:07 pm
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And off goes my radio  
RodneyHamp : 10/29/2020 5:09 pm : link
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RE: And off goes my radio  
jnoble : 10/29/2020 5:17 pm : link
In comment 15028514 RodneyHamp said:
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LOL
What a dumpster fire  
Essex : 10/29/2020 5:40 pm : link
FAN has become. During the 90s and early 2000s, I listened religiously. Not that I thought I was getting any great sports insight, but it was entertaining with hosts who were interesting to listen to about sports. As long as Carton is there, I will never turn that dial on again. He is everything that is wrong with sports radio and it has nothing to do with his legal issues.
It’s a shame what the FAN has become  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/29/2020 5:56 pm : link
it’s steering further away from sports and more into pop culture.
In case anybody thought he changed....  
Tesla : 10/29/2020 6:07 pm : link
LOL, he has not. To those other hosts who said it's unfair that Carton was given a prime hosting spot by WFAN after his crimes, Craig basically told them to go eff themselves. Said they had 3 years to "improve" while he was in prison but they did not so too bad for them.

Once an asshole always an asshole.

Oh yeah apparently he stole all that money because he was abused at a camp when he was younger. LOL. Have fun connecting the dots on that one.

What an absolutely piece of human garbage. And I'm not even talking about this crimes, I'm talking about how he belittled, demeaned, mocked and bullied others before it ever came out that he was stealing millions of dollars from people.

What a disgrace WFAN is for hiring this clown again.
Fuck him  
mattlawson : 10/29/2020 6:08 pm : link
And the horse he rode in on
The ultimate irony, of course...  
Tesla : 10/29/2020 6:09 pm : link
is that WFAN has basically becoming a glorified platform for gambling sites these days. A funny place for a self-proclaimed gambling addict to end up. But Craig promises he's going to sit quietly by and not say anything whenever Evan discusses betting lines, etc.

LOL, sure Jan.
RE: Fuck him  
Banks : 10/29/2020 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15028554 mattlawson said:
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And the horse he rode in on

Is it the same horse he consulted with about his gambling addiction?
Listened to about 20 minutes  
bubba0825 : 10/29/2020 6:18 pm : link
Of very cringe worthy radio
He should have been off the air  
mattlawson : 10/29/2020 6:22 pm : link
Because HE BET AGAINST THE GIANTS. He said he’d resign.

FUCK HIM. He’s a horrible listen. He’s a piece of shit. WFAN is delusional
Did he even thank/acknowledge Joe Beningo at all?  
UConn4523 : 10/29/2020 6:28 pm : link
his Twitter consists of at west about what shirt he’s wearing for his first day back, no mention at all of the guy who basically gave him his prime time spot.

Carton is a piece of shit.
RE: Did he even thank/acknowledge Joe Beningo at all?  
Banks : 10/29/2020 6:31 pm : link
In comment 15028569 UConn4523 said:
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his Twitter consists of at west about what shirt he’s wearing for his first day back, no mention at all of the guy who basically gave him his prime time spot.

Carton is a piece of shit.

I don't think we complimentary of him personally. He said he and Evan had a good run. He then said Joe is the worst golfer he's ever seen and is surprised how he can love it so much when he is so awful.
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Banks : 10/29/2020 6:32 pm : link
bah. wish I could edit at times. Meant to say "I don't think he was complimentary of him"
RE: He should have been off the air  
steve in ky : 10/29/2020 6:34 pm : link
In comment 15028567 mattlawson said:
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Because HE BET AGAINST THE GIANTS. He said he’d resign.

FUCK HIM. He’s a horrible listen. He’s a piece of shit. WFAN is delusional


I understand the dislike but as far as the bet, it was radio shtick, and he even said a moment later that he wouldn't really quit if they won.

You couldn't really have expected that he should resign?
Well the FAN doesn’t listen to BBI  
Gmen1982 : 10/29/2020 6:38 pm : link
And many people disagree and will tune in. Ratings will even get better.
RE: Well the FAN doesn’t listen to BBI  
UConn4523 : 10/29/2020 6:48 pm : link
In comment 15028576 Gmen1982 said:
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And many people disagree and will tune in. Ratings will even get better.


True of all things, garbage sells. Although I’m not sure how long the initial boost will last. The old timers who like Joe likely don’t give two shits about Carton so we will see what things are like a few months from now.
RE: Did he even thank/acknowledge Joe Beningo at all?  
steve in ky : 10/29/2020 6:54 pm : link
In comment 15028569 UConn4523 said:
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his Twitter consists of at west about what shirt he’s wearing for his first day back, no mention at all of the guy who basically gave him his prime time spot.

Carton is a piece of shit.


You can listen to his opening monologue on WFAN's site

After Carton initially thanking his family Joe Beningo was the first person that he thanked. He wished him well and among other things said that Joe had a "storied career"
Ratings will be huge at first  
Jay on the Island : 10/29/2020 6:59 pm : link
hopefully they plummet soon and this piece of garbage is let go.
He thanked Benigno  
aimrocky : 10/29/2020 7:05 pm : link
I’m a Carton fan and enjoyed the hour. I’m a low brow idiot so I’m optimistic about the show.
If FAN management had brains, they would pair Evan with Maggie  
GeofromNJ : 10/29/2020 7:05 pm : link
And for a total hoot, they should pair Carton with Malusis. They can throttle each other for air time.
Will be interesting to see how  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 10/29/2020 7:05 pm : link
He handles the first news story about an athlete breaking the law or doing something dumb. He and Boomer were always big about "how hard is it for dopey athletes to just follow the law!???"

The WFAN lineup has never been more bleak.

Boomer and Gio are unbearable.

I had actually warmed up a bit to Maggie towards the tail end of CMB but her and Moose is the complete opposite of a midday boost, ZZZ city.

I enjoyed Joe and Evan and I feel bad abandoning Evan, but I in no way want to support Carton.

I guess I'll try and catch JJ when I can and a bit of Somers here and there.

I used to really enjoy TMKS but once they "beat" Francesa, Kay's head somehow got even bigger, Rosenberg has somehow gotten even worse and LESS knowledgeable about sports as the years have gone on since he knows he can coast on being the "guy who makes funny mistakes". I feel bad for Don.
Heard him with Evan for a few minutes.  
bceagle05 : 10/29/2020 7:06 pm : link
Evan’s already trying to be something he isn’t, and it’s not gonna work.
RE: RE: He should have been off the air  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 10/29/2020 7:09 pm : link
In comment 15028574 steve in ky said:
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Because HE BET AGAINST THE GIANTS. He said he’d resign.

FUCK HIM. He’s a horrible listen. He’s a piece of shit. WFAN is delusional



I understand the dislike but as far as the bet, it was radio shtick, and he even said a moment later that he wouldn't really quit if they won.

You couldn't really have expected that he should resign?


The overall problem with Carton's schtick is that if you always make things a joke, then why should anyone ever take your opinion seriously? I realize its sports radio and not life or death, but if everything is a joke and an attempt to troll, then why should anyone bother listening to you?

People used to get upset about Francesa treating callers poorly, but at least he got blowback. Sometimes you'd listen to the old morning show and maybe an older caller or a guy trying to make a point that Carton didnt' like would be talking and Carton would just be condescending screaming "OKAY!" over the caller.
RE: If FAN management had brains, they would pair Evan with Maggie  
aimrocky : 10/29/2020 7:10 pm : link
In comment 15028598 GeofromNJ said:
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And for a total hoot, they should pair Carton with Malusis. They can throttle each other for air time.


Evan with Maggie would be entertaining for nobody but the dorkiest of dorks.
RE: Heard him with Evan for a few minutes.  
aimrocky : 10/29/2020 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15028600 bceagle05 said:
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Evan’s already trying to be something he isn’t, and it’s not gonna work.


Yeah Evan sounded different, but I felt Gio did the same his first few weeks with Boomer. Evan’s a pro. I bet they find their groove.
RE: Will be interesting to see how  
nygiants16 : 10/29/2020 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15028599 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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He handles the first news story about an athlete breaking the law or doing something dumb. He and Boomer were always big about "how hard is it for dopey athletes to just follow the law!???"

The WFAN lineup has never been more bleak.

Boomer and Gio are unbearable.

I had actually warmed up a bit to Maggie towards the tail end of CMB but her and Moose is the complete opposite of a midday boost, ZZZ city.

I enjoyed Joe and Evan and I feel bad abandoning Evan, but I in no way want to support Carton.

I guess I'll try and catch JJ when I can and a bit of Somers here and there.

I used to really enjoy TMKS but once they "beat" Francesa, Kay's head somehow got even bigger, Rosenberg has somehow gotten even worse and LESS knowledgeable about sports as the years have gone on since he knows he can coast on being the "guy who makes funny mistakes". I feel bad for Don.


I used to really like the Kay show but they are constantly wrong on their takes and do know research before they say anything..

Rosenburg is a joke
He is such a POS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/29/2020 7:14 pm : link
& sorry, but I don't think funny at all. Still calling woman 'broads'...dude, it's 2020.
RE: Heard him with Evan for a few minutes.  
nygiants16 : 10/29/2020 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15028600 bceagle05 said:
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Evan’s already trying to be something he isn’t, and it’s not gonna work.


I would actually be surprised if it doeant work, Carton is a shock jock but for some reaaon i dont mind listening to him..

Evan knows his stuff, it will take a little bit for them to find a groove but i think they will be good
Roberts should have his own show.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/29/2020 7:17 pm : link
Yeah, he strikes me as a nerd, but he knows his sports.
RE: RE: RE: He should have been off the air  
steve in ky : 10/29/2020 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15028601 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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Because HE BET AGAINST THE GIANTS. He said he’d resign.

FUCK HIM. He’s a horrible listen. He’s a piece of shit. WFAN is delusional



I understand the dislike but as far as the bet, it was radio shtick, and he even said a moment later that he wouldn't really quit if they won.

You couldn't really have expected that he should resign?



The overall problem with Carton's schtick is that if you always make things a joke, then why should anyone ever take your opinion seriously? I realize its sports radio and not life or death, but if everything is a joke and an attempt to troll, then why should anyone bother listening to you?

People used to get upset about Francesa treating callers poorly, but at least he got blowback. Sometimes you'd listen to the old morning show and maybe an older caller or a guy trying to make a point that Carton didnt' like would be talking and Carton would just be condescending screaming "OKAY!" over the caller.


It's low brow humor that shouldn't be taken too seriously in the first place.

But my original point about the bet was that he SAID moments later on the air that he wouldn't really quit if the Giants won. He was informing the audience to not take it seriously, but amazingly some did and even still do.
I hope Roberts makes it work, for his sake.  
bceagle05 : 10/29/2020 7:22 pm : link
I’m a fan of his. During the pandemic I’ve found myself listening to Joe and Evan from 2-3pm and Michael Kay from 3-4ish. We’ll see how much of Carton I can tolerate.
The sad thing here  
Matt M. : 10/29/2020 7:25 pm : link
is I can see this not going well and Evan made the scapegoat and getting fired or moved to another slot. I will not listen to their show for a single solitary second, which is a shame because I like Evan. Strictly TMKS or music for me in the afternoon drive.
RE: RE: If FAN management had brains, they would pair Evan with Maggie  
GeofromNJ : 10/29/2020 7:27 pm : link
In comment 15028604 aimrocky said:
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And for a total hoot, they should pair Carton with Malusis. They can throttle each other for air time.



Evan with Maggie would be entertaining for nobody but the dorkiest of dorks.

The purpose of sports talk radio is to talk about sports, not talk about naked women I have known and prisons I've seen the inside of.
I listened to about his first 20-30 minutes, morbid curiosity  
mfsd : 10/29/2020 7:35 pm : link
he started off well, thanking all the right people, including Joe B and the execs at the station, and was open about his problems and having to face them

Then he quickly flipped to the whole “if people are upset I got this opportunity, they had 3 years to get better and they didn’t” nonsense, and I thought same old arrogant jerkoff, and tuned out
RE: I listened to about his first 20-30 minutes, morbid curiosity  
Matt M. : 10/29/2020 7:37 pm : link
In comment 15028630 mfsd said:
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he started off well, thanking all the right people, including Joe B and the execs at the station, and was open about his problems and having to face them

Then he quickly flipped to the whole “if people are upset I got this opportunity, they had 3 years to get better and they didn’t” nonsense, and I thought same old arrogant jerkoff, and tuned out
The problem is he thinks, and he's probably correct, that they brought him back for that schtick. IT is exactly why I won't give him a single second of my time.
RE: I listened to about his first 20-30 minutes, morbid curiosity  
steve in ky : 10/29/2020 7:38 pm : link
In comment 15028630 mfsd said:
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he started off well, thanking all the right people, including Joe B and the execs at the station, and was open about his problems and having to face them

Then he quickly flipped to the whole “if people are upset I got this opportunity, they had 3 years to get better and they didn’t” nonsense, and I thought same old arrogant jerkoff, and tuned out



Yeah I agree, it was a dumb way for him to wrap it up. Served no purpose other than taking a poke at those in the organization who apparently don't like or support him. If there was ever a moment to take the high road it was this moment. He shouldn't have even addressed that.
RE: The sad thing here  
ThisIsMyBBIname : 10/29/2020 7:43 pm : link
In comment 15028622 Matt M. said:
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is I can see this not going well and Evan made the scapegoat and getting fired or moved to another slot. I will not listen to their show for a single solitary second, which is a shame because I like Evan. Strictly TMKS or music for me in the afternoon drive.


Yeah I definitely fear for Evan if this doesn't work. WFAN has tied its future to Carton and will blame Evan if the ratings end up being poor in the long run. The reaction I've seen towards Carton's return has been mostly negative, but its a small sample size.

Does anyone remember Carton's attempt to do a YouTube show after he was forced to leave? I realize its hard even for a well known person to make that adjustment and carry an audience, but there were times I checked in and there would be only 15-20 people watching despite them trying to throw a hot chick out there to get some cheap views. I wonder if WFAN is overestimating his appeal.
RE: RE: I listened to about his first 20-30 minutes, morbid curiosity  
mfsd : 10/29/2020 7:57 pm : link
In comment 15028635 steve in ky said:
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he started off well, thanking all the right people, including Joe B and the execs at the station, and was open about his problems and having to face them

Then he quickly flipped to the whole “if people are upset I got this opportunity, they had 3 years to get better and they didn’t” nonsense, and I thought same old arrogant jerkoff, and tuned out




Yeah I agree, it was a dumb way for him to wrap it up. Served no purpose other than taking a poke at those in the organization who apparently don't like or support him. If there was ever a moment to take the high road it was this moment. He shouldn't have even addressed that.


Agreed. He could have simply said I’m fortunate I got a second chance and I’ll make the most of it

Not sure who he might be referring to, maybe others at WFAN, the Michael Kay show, whoever, but he clearly had someone in mind with that comment
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bubba0825 : 10/29/2020 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15028637 ThisIsMyBBIname said:
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is I can see this not going well and Evan made the scapegoat and getting fired or moved to another slot. I will not listen to their show for a single solitary second, which is a shame because I like Evan. Strictly TMKS or music for me in the afternoon drive.



Yeah I definitely fear for Evan if this doesn't work. WFAN has tied its future to Carton and will blame Evan if the ratings end up being poor in the long run. The reaction I've seen towards Carton's return has been mostly negative, but its a small sample size.

Does anyone remember Carton's attempt to do a YouTube show after he was forced to leave? I realize its hard even for a well known person to make that adjustment and carry an audience, but there were times I checked in and there would be only 15-20 people watching despite them trying to throw a hot chick out there to get some cheap views. I wonder if WFAN is overestimating his appeal.


I don’t know 1 person who thinks carton was good. It was more circumstance that his show was successful. I hope when wfan cleans house Evan lands back in the midday with Maggie gray who is underrated because malusius is terrible
Carton is  
TyreeHelmet : 10/29/2020 8:11 pm : link
Scum of the earth. The first 15 minutes told you he's still the asshole he always was. That was garbage radio too- he's blaming being abused at age 11 on his gambling addiction and the fraud and stealing he did? And I hate to break it to him- but sports gambling has become enormous and is only getting bigger. Good luck doing 5 hours of sports talk without hitting on any of that. How exactly will that work?

What a disaster for WFAN. Just shows how desperate and pathetic they have become.
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ThisIsMyBBIname : 10/29/2020 8:21 pm : link
In comment 15028655 bubba0825 said:
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is I can see this not going well and Evan made the scapegoat and getting fired or moved to another slot. I will not listen to their show for a single solitary second, which is a shame because I like Evan. Strictly TMKS or music for me in the afternoon drive.



Yeah I definitely fear for Evan if this doesn't work. WFAN has tied its future to Carton and will blame Evan if the ratings end up being poor in the long run. The reaction I've seen towards Carton's return has been mostly negative, but its a small sample size.

Does anyone remember Carton's attempt to do a YouTube show after he was forced to leave? I realize its hard even for a well known person to make that adjustment and carry an audience, but there were times I checked in and there would be only 15-20 people watching despite them trying to throw a hot chick out there to get some cheap views. I wonder if WFAN is overestimating his appeal.



I don’t know 1 person who thinks carton was good. It was more circumstance that his show was successful. I hope when wfan cleans house Evan lands back in the midday with Maggie gray who is underrated because malusius is terrible


It is actually pretty telling that the Morning Show pretty much bounced back ratings wise (I believe) after Boomer and Gio got into a flow. Its almost like a morning sports show with no local market competition (the ESPN Morning Shows from the days of Mike & Mike to whatever that disaster they have now is) is destined to do great ratings. Now Carton has to compete against another local sports show instead of National ESPN Radio garbage.
I've hated Carton for years  
Sonic Youth : 10/29/2020 8:31 pm : link
his doc garnered a modicum of sympathy from me, although it was very apparent (and I was very cognizant) that it was incredibly slanted to try and present him in the best possible light.

Was willing to give an old "wait and see" to see if he changed his on air "persona" -- sounds like he hasn't, and the line about "3 years to improve" just reeks of entitlement, disrespect, and ingratitude. So fuck that guy.

He's either: 1) still the worlds biggest dick, or, if the "documentary" presented him in the correct light off air, then 2) the worlds most insecure, needle-dicked dipshit with no semblance of a filter and a pathetic craving for the on air adulation he gets from being an asshole.
RE: RE: RE: If FAN management had brains, they would pair Evan with Maggie  
aimrocky : 10/30/2020 7:52 am : link
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And for a total hoot, they should pair Carton with Malusis. They can throttle each other for air time.



Evan with Maggie would be entertaining for nobody but the dorkiest of dorks.


The purpose of sports talk radio is to talk about sports, not talk about naked women I have known and prisons I've seen the inside of.


I’m sorry, but the days of Mike and the Maddog spending an hour on a decision to bunt are over. It’s not entertaining for the general public. If that’s what you crave, listen to podcasts. That’s what I do. I’m not expecting to learn anything from FAN. I go there for instant reaction to games and entertainment.
Never liked him.  
PepperJ52 : 10/31/2020 9:15 am : link
I started listening to Boomer in the morning after Carton left. Don’t recall all the people they tried out but they had some good ones (Kim Jones was one?) and I like Gio a lot. Then I got into CMB and maybe it’s all the changes couple md with the fact that I’m a Giants and Mets fan who is just about exhausted from hearing the sad recaps and commentary, but I don’t listen to much of any sports talk anymore.

I record Tiki and Tierney and listen a bit and use the Radio.com Rewind for a few minutes of Moose and Maggie on a Monday or Friday and a couple podcasts but that’s about it. I used to have WFAN on either over the air and then Streaming all day long since the late 80s, but clearly it’s all jumped the shark. And the fact that this no-talent felon who stole money from people gets the juicy slot just seals it.
If you want to hear good sports radio  
fireitup77 : 10/31/2020 9:35 am : link
Spend the money on sirius. Well worth the money just for the NFL radio.
He's a professional troll..  
BigBlue89 : 10/31/2020 9:52 am : link
That's his personality. I won't listen to one minute of his garbage, but I hope he lasts long enough to pay back the $5 million he stole.
Carton is who he's always been  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/31/2020 10:54 am : link
a second-tier shock jock. From Philly to his failed 102.7 show to NJ101. Don't see how he will shift to a caller/guest focused program, and I don't see him blending with Evan but they'll get every opportunity to succeed.
RE: Carton is who he's always been  
TheMick7 : 10/31/2020 11:24 am : link
In comment 15029905 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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a second-tier shock jock. From Philly to his failed 102.7 show to NJ101. Don't see how he will shift to a caller/guest focused program, and I don't see him blending with Evan but they'll get every opportunity to succeed.


As a retired US History Teacher/Coach of 37years, I really have a strong dislike for Carton. When he was on NJ101,he & his buddy took to doing a daily trashing of teachers, just because. That jackass wouldn't have lasted a day in the classroom or baseball/football fields because his schtick wouldn't go over with kids, they'd see right through it! They would eat him up & spit him out! What was it, those who can't, no, it's not teach, it's DJ & make believe they actually know something, when in reality, they are an idiot!
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