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JPP: "I'm coming for their necks."

Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/30/2020 1:52 pm
Greg Auman @gregauman

"I'm coming for their necks. They know that," Jason Pierre-Paul said of Monday night at Giants. Still has love for his old team, but motivated for sure.
Good..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/30/2020 1:56 pm : link
thing Merton Hanks retired
Good  
nygiants16 : 10/30/2020 1:57 pm : link
If i am jones i am pulling on every run and letting jpp crash every time
RE: Good..  
eric2425ny : 10/30/2020 1:59 pm : link
In comment 15029305 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thing Merton Hanks retired


Lol, or Steve Grogan. At least he wore that neck roll to protect himself.
Good for him.  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 1:59 pm : link
I like JPP more than anyone on the 2020 Giants lol
Probably  
pjcas18 : 10/30/2020 1:59 pm : link
need to grab their necks with his left hand though.

we are coming  
KDavies : 10/30/2020 2:03 pm : link
for his fingers...
JPP knows almost nobody on the team  
SLIM_ : 10/30/2020 2:03 pm : link
Sheppard, Tomlinson, Engram and what other players? That may be it.

Coaches? I think it is Quinn.

Still will no Ronnie Barnes, Mara's, etc. and.... Gettleman of course.
RE: Probably  
christian : 10/30/2020 2:04 pm : link
In comment 15029317 pjcas18 said:
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need to grab their necks with his left hand though.


I’m looking forward to the fireworks
I don't know what he'd be sore about  
Go Terps : 10/30/2020 2:10 pm : link
The Giants have him every benefit of the doubt; more than he deserved.
Who he matching up against?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/30/2020 2:15 pm : link
Thomas. Good luck DJ. Good F'ing luck.
No one fears JPP  
JonC : 10/30/2020 2:15 pm : link
nor should they.
Make all the hand puns you'd like, but  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 2:16 pm : link
he's still got better hand than Evan Engram.
he's going to give Fleming  
Platos : 10/30/2020 2:17 pm : link
the "shocker" with his maimed hand
Ex Giants from the late Coughlin Era  
Ben in Tampa : 10/30/2020 2:17 pm : link
have the biggest hard ons for the franchise.
fortunately he'll have a harder time  
santacruzom : 10/30/2020 2:17 pm : link
scooping up the ball after he forces Jones to fumble.
JPP not only has better hands with one  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 2:23 pm : link
than that sorry excuse Engram but if you include the safety JPP caused in Super Bowl 46, he's probably scored more points total for the Giants than Engram has. Haha.

I'm on Team JPP here. I'm not getting defensive over a 1-6 team.

Lol, did I mention Engram sucks?
It's Halloween  
noro9 : 10/30/2020 2:49 pm : link
This weekend. He might get hurt Knocking over a mailbox.
All good  
Spider43 : 10/30/2020 2:52 pm : link
More ping pong balls, so to speak.
RE: JPP not only has better hands with one  
Tuckrule : 10/30/2020 2:55 pm : link
In comment 15029363 Route 9 said:
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than that sorry excuse Engram but if you include the safety JPP caused in Super Bowl 46, he's probably scored more points total for the Giants than Engram has. Haha.

I'm on Team JPP here. I'm not getting defensive over a 1-6 team.

Lol, did I mention Engram sucks?


That was Tuck in 46. Your thinking about the safety he forced in the regular season game vs Dallas. The game where he had the field goal block at the end.
Is that penalty if he really  
LBH15 : 10/30/2020 2:56 pm : link
grabs their necks?
.  
ghost718 : 10/30/2020 2:57 pm : link
WHoever Is Assigned to Block Him  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/30/2020 2:58 pm : link
When he rushes, just show him a fake firecracker. That'll freak him out and back him off
RE: Good..  
NINEster : 10/30/2020 2:59 pm : link
In comment 15029305 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thing Merton Hanks retired


LOL!
...  
LBH15 : 10/30/2020 3:00 pm : link

RE: RE: Good..  
SomeFan : 10/30/2020 3:02 pm : link
In comment 15029314 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15029305 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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thing Merton Hanks retired



Lol, or Steve Grogan. At least he wore that neck roll to protect himself.


Matt Ryan ain’t too shabby in the neck department either. But Merton Hanks is the Babe Ruth of necks.
RE: Probably  
Britt in VA : 10/30/2020 3:05 pm : link
In comment 15029317 pjcas18 said:
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need to grab their necks with his left hand though.


I laughed out loud at this.
Yep, nothing to fear  
GManinDC : 10/30/2020 3:05 pm : link
Guy is 5th in the league in sacks with 5.5

What a dumb mistake to trade him

He shouldn't have been traded,  
Simms11 : 10/30/2020 3:08 pm : link
but they were clearing cap space and he wasn't doing much here if I recall. All of a sudden he wakes up in Tampa?! Also, wasn't it the Giants who took care of him after that accident?!
He shouldn't have been traded,  
Simms11 : 10/30/2020 3:09 pm : link
but they were clearing cap space and he wasn't doing much here if I recall. All of a sudden he wakes up in Tampa?! Also, wasn't it the Giants who took care of him after that accident?!
He shouldn't have been traded,  
Simms11 : 10/30/2020 3:09 pm : link
but they were clearing cap space and he wasn't doing much here if I recall. All of a sudden he wakes up in Tampa?! Also, wasn't it the Giants who took care of him after that accident?!
Sorry for the multiple responses!  
Simms11 : 10/30/2020 3:10 pm : link
Damn network issues
Which is even dumber to trade him  
GManinDC : 10/30/2020 3:11 pm : link
These are the type of guys you keep on your team. hard working, veteran, home grown talent.

Nah, instead, we want all clean cut nice guys so we can root for them!
JPP was a God for us in 2011  
mfsd : 10/30/2020 3:12 pm : link
and I’ll always love him for it. As for this, whatever
RE: RE: JPP not only has better hands with one  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 3:13 pm : link
In comment 15029418 Tuckrule said:
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That was Tuck in 46. Your thinking about the safety he forced in the regular season game vs Dallas. The game where he had the field goal block at the end.


The comaprison to Engram and points was obviously sarcasm. No one actually tackled Brady with the ball because the call was intentional grounding in the endzone so I was obviously linking credit to JPP in 46 as a discourtesy to Engram's production in scoring.

If you really want to get cute, on the safety play, JPP had three different guys on him throughout the play. 2 lineman and then the RB chipped him at the end. So maybe Tuck wouldn't have had the opening to get near Brady if it wasn't for JPP attracting more attention to himself.

Love Tuck, JPP and Osi. All great guys.
RE: No one fears JPP  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/30/2020 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15029347 JonC said:
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nor should they.



With AT blocking him me thinks Daniel Jones begs to differ
JPP  
stretch234 : 10/30/2020 3:19 pm : link
He is doing in Tampa what he was doing here. Problem is people expected 16 sacks out of him every year. They also expected him to be the only DE in the NFL who would not crash down on a read option.

Tampa has a bunch of guys who can rush the passer and Suh is still in the middle.

Tough match-up for the OL
Game time temp about 40 degrees with light winds ...  
Spider56 : 10/30/2020 3:26 pm : link
Coming out of the Florida sunshine, me thinks JPPs hand and recent neck woes might be telling him to take the game off and sit by the heaters.
He  
Toth029 : 10/30/2020 3:27 pm : link
Did face the Giants in 2018.

Lost.

Eli had a 155.8 QB rating and JPP had a sack and a half. Fine game. Just let it go.
RE: Make all the hand puns you'd like, but  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 10/30/2020 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15029350 Route 9 said:
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he's still got better hand than Evan Engram.


Everyone has better hands than Evan Engram.
Heard on Giants Insider  
joeinpa : 10/30/2020 3:28 pm : link
Yesterday, JPP trade was one of those “culture” moves.

Sited JPP was one of the guys laughing in the locker room when Eli was meeting with the press in tears about his benching

Chris Bisignano is pretty connected to Giants, but hope this is not true.
RE: He shouldn't have been traded,  
Angel Eyes : 10/30/2020 3:28 pm : link
In comment 15029439 Simms11 said:
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but they were clearing cap space and he wasn't doing much here if I recall. All of a sudden he wakes up in Tampa?! Also, wasn't it the Giants who took care of him after that accident?!

And Gettleman traded him without warning.
RE: JPP  
GManinDC : 10/30/2020 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15029457 stretch234 said:
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He is doing in Tampa what he was doing here. Problem is people expected 16 sacks out of him every year. They also expected him to be the only DE in the NFL who would not crash down on a read option.

Tampa has a bunch of guys who can rush the passer and Suh is still in the middle.

Tough match-up for the OL


I agree with this. Players can't have down seasons. it happens to everyone..
RE: JPP  
Angel Eyes : 10/30/2020 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15029457 stretch234 said:
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He is doing in Tampa what he was doing here. Problem is people expected 16 sacks out of him every year. They also expected him to be the only DE in the NFL who would not crash down on a read option.

Tampa has a bunch of guys who can rush the passer and Suh is still in the middle.

Tough match-up for the OL

He still averaged a sack a game when he returned.
RE: He shouldn't have been traded,  
Platos : 10/30/2020 3:35 pm : link
In comment 15029438 Simms11 said:
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but they were clearing cap space and he wasn't doing much here if I recall. All of a sudden he wakes up in Tampa?! Also, wasn't it the Giants who took care of him after that accident?!


pretty much, if anything they did him a favor by sending him to florida where he's from.

RE: RE: Make all the hand puns you'd like, but  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 3:37 pm : link
In comment 15029464 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:
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Everyone has better hands than Evan Engram.


Thanks, Opie.
Hey JPP  
David B. : 10/30/2020 3:40 pm : link


Try not to get hurt stepping off the bus.
RE: Yep, nothing to fear  
Angel Eyes : 10/30/2020 3:42 pm : link
In comment 15029432 GManinDC said:
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Guy is 5th in the league in sacks with 5.5

What a dumb mistake to trade him

My thoughts exactly. I wasn't happy when they did considering they haven't tried to replace him.
lol  
Knineteen : 10/30/2020 3:43 pm : link
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"I'm going to destroy the Giants!"

The same way you destroyed your hand?
He was a one-year wonder. When he was getting the crap kicked  
carpoon : 10/30/2020 3:44 pm : link
out of him, he would get some kind of phantom injury. Sean O'Hara did a piece before he blew up his hand about him on
NFLN where he stated that tight ends manhandled JPP alone because he was afraid of most of the tackles in the league. We carried his worthless butt much longer than we should have.
JPP literally won the Giants a Super Bowl  
arniefez : 10/30/2020 3:44 pm : link
he can say anything he wants to as far as I'm concerned. Plus it's not like anything that happens in a Giant game matters at this point anyway. So they'll be 1-7 big deal.

There won't be a Giant game that matters for years. The Mara's have entered a Knicks death spiral where every new bad decision they make multiplies all the bad decisions they've made the past 6 or 7 years and makes everything even worse.

I hear them leaking their garbage to their friendly writers, floating the we're bringing back Gettleman trial balloon. Good thing no fans can attend the games because the stadium would be almost as empty regardless.
RE: fortunately he'll have a harder time  
Angel Eyes : 10/30/2020 3:44 pm : link
In comment 15029354 santacruzom said:
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scooping up the ball after he forces Jones to fumble.

He did have a scoop and score in 2016 after blowing off half his hand.
RE: He was a one-year wonder. When he was getting the crap kicked  
GManinDC : 10/30/2020 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15029497 carpoon said:
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out of him, he would get some kind of phantom injury. Sean O'Hara did a piece before he blew up his hand about him on
NFLN where he stated that tight ends manhandled JPP alone because he was afraid of most of the tackles in the league. We carried his worthless butt much longer than we should have.


1 year wonder!!!?? Wow. That's an idiotic statement
He  
Toth029 : 10/30/2020 4:01 pm : link
Faced the Giants already. He played well.

Am I missing something? That was two seasons ago and the first season in Tampa. Still feels like his ego needs checked and his maturity level never improved.

Tuck or Osi didnt say these things when they played elsewhere. Neither did Burress and he is shot himself.

Collins and Odell say thes ed things but those two acting like a child is not surprising.
...  
christian : 10/30/2020 4:02 pm : link
JJP proved to be a head case and a fool -- but the productivity numbers don't lie.

As a Giant, he was a very productive player. A lot of these stats weren't kept until the mid 90s, so it's really where he stood among Giants in the last 30 years.

In 111 games his franchise rankings:

- 3rd in TFLs with 87
- 7th in sacks with 58.5
- 4th in FF 13
- 5th in PD (in his cases tipped balls) with 47

He's had 2 pretty good streaks in his career, bookending one of the most bizarre periods for a player.
JPP should be happy  
US1 Giants : 10/30/2020 4:12 pm : link
that the Giants did him the favor of trading him. He must be happier with Tampa than the mess that is the current Giants team.
Necks? Necks?  
MOOPS : 10/30/2020 4:15 pm : link
Does this have anything to do with some kind of weird Voodoo ceremony?
Saying that the Tampa defense...  
BamaBlue : 10/30/2020 4:21 pm : link
is a bad matchup for the Giants OL has to be the understatement of the year. EVERYONE, including some NCAA Div III schools are a bad matchup for the Giants OL.
JPP  
MtDizzle : 10/30/2020 4:25 pm : link
is playing lights out. Why did we get rid of him again?? Oh yeah he’s bad for the culture!!! What a fucking joke.
Jason Pierre Paw  
Reale01 : 10/30/2020 4:25 pm : link
Will not get anywhere near Eli.
......  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 4:33 pm : link
JFC. he's playing his former team so it's a big day for him. He's just trying to make it more interesting in a non-literal way.

It's got nothing to do with immaturity or karate chopping somebody's neck but more so he wants to send the Giants organization a message they made the wrong decision on letting him go and he's still got some fire in his fingertips.
Just checked out...  
bw in dc : 10/30/2020 4:38 pm : link
JJP's stats for the year - 5.5 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, fair amount of tackles.

Much better than I thought...
Who?  
Saquads26 : 10/30/2020 4:38 pm : link
!?
RE: ......  
Toth029 : 10/30/2020 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15029569 Route 9 said:
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JFC. he's playing his former team so it's a big day for him. He's just trying to make it more interesting in a non-literal way.

It's got nothing to do with immaturity or karate chopping somebody's neck but more so he wants to send the Giants organization a message they made the wrong decision on letting him go and he's still got some fire in his fingertips.


He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?
RE: JPP  
Angel Eyes : 10/30/2020 4:46 pm : link
In comment 15029557 MtDizzle said:
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is playing lights out. Why did we get rid of him again?? Oh yeah he’s bad for the culture!!! What a fucking joke.

Who cares about culture? I mean, I care about culture because I really like jazz but that's an entirely different definition right there.

Point being, if the Giants of the 80s cared so much about culture LT would have been cut in 1986. And where would they have gone after that?
Most of us probably have more loyalty  
chuckydee9 : 10/30/2020 4:47 pm : link
To JPP than we do for 95% of the current roster.. I wish him the best.
RE: RE: JPP  
Banks : 10/30/2020 4:54 pm : link
In comment 15029473 Angel Eyes said:
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He still averaged a sack a game when he returned.
28 games, 15.5 sacks O_o. I liked JPP, but I don't miss him. He's playing well in a stacked front for TB. I'm honestly glad he's doing well, but he had questionable effort at times here and was making way more money than his production warranted. I don't think he'd be doing near as well here.
RE: RE: ......  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15029585 Toth029 said:
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He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?


So the better (and more boring) option is to just say "yeah I already got it out of my system, this is just like any other game for me."?
I've got no problem with JPP and glad he's doing well.  
Britt in VA : 10/30/2020 5:00 pm : link
He was not a consistently dominant player for us before he was traded. He would disappear for long stretches and then out of nowhere would have a three sack game here and there. For instance, in both his 7 and 8 sack seasons in 2016 and 2017, 5 sacks came in 2 games.

We could use a pass rush right now, but at the time he was not considered a fit for the 3-4 defense we were switching to in 2018. I don't remember a lot of people being unhappy he was shipped out.

I did not believe JPP was a part of the culture problem, here, and did not associate him being shipped out with culture.
RE: RE: RE: ......  
Toth029 : 10/30/2020 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15029591 Route 9 said:
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In comment 15029585 Toth029 said:


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He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?



So the better (and more boring) option is to just say "yeah I already got it out of my system, this is just like any other game for me."?


Whatever you say champ. Screams hey look at me more than anything. Vets like Tuck and Osi didn't do those things. Because they're grown ups and didn't do petty things like that.

Or blow their hand off with a firework.
Gotta..  
thrunthrublue : 10/30/2020 5:09 pm : link
Hand it to him,......
Another derivative  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 5:13 pm : link
Firework reference. At least this guy did something for the franchise.

Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.

Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
Thumbs up to him  
Spider56 : 10/30/2020 5:14 pm : link
too.
Lobster boy just  
NDMedics : 10/30/2020 5:14 pm : link
mouthing off.
RE: Another derivative  
MtDizzle : 10/30/2020 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15029605 Route 9 said:
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Firework reference. At least this guy did something for the franchise.

Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.

Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.


Seriously. JPP had one of the most dominate performances in recent Giants history over the Cowboys in 2011. A lot of people here have rose colored glasses for anyone or anything employed by the Giants.
RE: RE: JPP  
MtDizzle : 10/30/2020 5:35 pm : link
In comment 15029586 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 15029557 MtDizzle said:


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is playing lights out. Why did we get rid of him again?? Oh yeah he’s bad for the culture!!! What a fucking joke.


Who cares about culture? I mean, I care about culture because I really like jazz but that's an entirely different definition right there.

Point being, if the Giants of the 80s cared so much about culture LT would have been cut in 1986. And where would they have gone after that?


I’m with you. I don’t care how mature or well spoken players are. I want animals on that field that lay it all on the line. I don’t mind a little craziness, you gotta be crazy to play this game. I long for the days of dogs like Rolle, Bradshaw and Jacobs on this team. Not the best spoken guys all the time but they had heart and leadership for days.
Culture  
crick n NC : 10/30/2020 5:38 pm : link
Involves knowing and doing your job on the field. A good team culture is where all players buy into winning at all costs. I believe that is more of what teams look for when speaking about team culture.
The teams that have a good winning culture  
LBH15 : 10/30/2020 5:48 pm : link
are the ones that don't have to bring it up.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 10/30/2020 6:13 pm : link
Sort of a nothing quote. He's had seasons with 12.5 sacks, 8.5 (in 10 games), and now 5.5 in 7 with the Bucs.

I'm glad for him, his 2011 season was unforgettable.
Hopefully the Giants run the read option  
St. Jimmy : 10/30/2020 6:25 pm : link
and he plays it like he did here. Decided to look up the read option before this post and there is JPP as the example as to when the QB keeps the ball. Good times.
This trade worked out well for us in that the Bucs  
mikeinbloomfield : 10/30/2020 7:15 pm : link
Got JPP and we got BJ Hill and his 7.5 career sacks.
Once again people need to look at stats in context  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/30/2020 7:39 pm : link
JPP needs to be on a team with an overall good front 7 and can’t be the number 1 pass rusher. Double teams completely neutralize him and he needs his guys to swarm to ball because he struggle setting the edge out in space. If he were still here people would be screaming for him off the team.
I will always be appreciative of JPP.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/30/2020 7:40 pm : link
We don't win in '11 without him. Simple as that.
Here is the reality...  
EricJ : 10/30/2020 7:42 pm : link
he was a good player for us until he blew off his hand. The Giants could have cut his ass immediately and instead did the honorable thing and let him stay.

He should thank the organization for doing what they did for him. The Giants basically saved his career.
Stupid comment  
Chris684 : 10/30/2020 7:42 pm : link
But I’ll always have a soft spot for JPP.

He was DPOY worthy in 2011.

Nobody will ever confuse him for a rocket scientist though.
Timed well.....given the current state of the Giants and bucs  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/30/2020 7:48 pm : link
How daring JPP. Scared of YOU!
RE: This trade worked out well for us in that the Bucs  
BigBlueShock : 10/30/2020 7:51 pm : link
In comment 15029678 mikeinbloomfield said:
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Got JPP and we got BJ Hill and his 7.5 career sacks.

JPP was making a ton of money on a team that was going nowhere anytime soon. But that kind of reasoning is obviously over your head. People certainly have incredibly short memories...
Once a Yapper always a Yapper  
ZogZerg : 10/30/2020 8:01 pm : link
He can't help himself.
He might be a yapper, but he's a good player  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/30/2020 8:02 pm : link
& helped us win a Super Bowl so...
RE: I will always be appreciative of JPP.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/30/2020 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15029691 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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We don't win in '11 without him. Simple as that.


I can't believe people aren't appreciative of him. Other than blowing off his hand he was a great Giant.

So what he's mad at us? From his perspective he probably thought he was going to be a Giant for life, won a superbowl with us, got shipped out of town, and has been pretty damn productive. I'd think most players would relish the idea of being a part of the organization as a lifer with a superbowl ring on one of those fingers. Something to be said coming back, getting invited to stuff always, or being able to be at the facilities whenever you want. I'd be spiteful too, at least until I retired and how some time to separate my emotions from the Giants logic.

On a side not I'd imagine this is part of every teams pitch when you they are trying to resign guys they've drafted.
Zeke.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/30/2020 8:14 pm : link
Exactly. And I think it's entirely possible he ends up in the Giants Ring of Honor one day. And it'd be well deserved.

I really just don't get the animus towards him. Yeah, he was an idiot that 4th of July. He probably admits as much too. But he was a great Giant that helped us win a FREAKING SUPER BOWL.
RE: Another derivative  
section125 : 10/30/2020 8:23 pm : link
In comment 15029605 Route 9 said:
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Firework reference. At least this guy did something for the franchise.

Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.

Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.


WTF? Quaaludes
People are shitting on JPP in this thread  
adamg : 10/30/2020 8:34 pm : link
Meanwhile our pass rush has been pathetic since he left.
RE: RE: Another derivative  
Route 9 : 10/30/2020 8:39 pm : link
In comment 15029711 section125 said:
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WTF? Quaaludes


JPP helped the Giants win a Super Bowl. The 46th one. The guys on this team now suck. Suck badly. They do.

RE: People are shitting on JPP in this thread  
section125 : 10/30/2020 8:41 pm : link
In comment 15029714 adamg said:
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Meanwhile our pass rush has been pathetic since he left.


People's memories are faded. A lot of BBI wanted him traded because he kept missing tackles with the bad hand and he had a huge contract which put the Giants in a bind with the CAP(one of the reasons not him alone). While many of us loved JPP, there was a large contingent that wanted him traded to save money. Truth is I am not even sure where I stood. Probably against it, but realized they had to because of the CAP.
Yes, the pass rush has been bad since and OV did nothing at all and continued to do nothing after he left.
Expect  
thrunthrublue : 10/30/2020 8:55 pm : link
Fireworks 💥 on Monday night!!
JPP perfectly sums up  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/30/2020 9:00 pm : link
DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me
Well, Gettleman is a complete disaster.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/30/2020 9:03 pm : link
An absolute horrible hire. But yeah, we beat Washington a couple of weeks ago!
RE: JPP perfectly sums up  
Angel Eyes : 10/30/2020 9:04 pm : link
In comment 15029721 Ned In Atlanta said:
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DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me

Gettleman must've thought Leonard Williams was something like Bob Lilly. Far from it, he's not even a Warren Sapp.
RE: JPP perfectly sums up  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/30/2020 9:11 pm : link
In comment 15029721 Ned In Atlanta said:
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DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me


DG has been hit or (mostly) miss and at this moment in time want him fired. The only thing that can save him in my mind is if some the rookies really shine and the team wins the East. Of course this past draft class could turn around and be great down the line, Lemiux, Peart, and Thomas pan out into solid starters and building blocks for a good, YOUNG, offensive line.

And the defense as a whole is solidly built from a roster perspective and either a boundary corner or edge rusher away from being top 3rd and both from being elite. The nice thing about missing only this and having the rest of the defense built out is you only need to hit once to transform. Lots of teams have these things and still suck defensively because the rest of their defense stinks.
I forgot to add DG certainly hasn't done enough to warrant him  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/30/2020 9:13 pm : link
not getting fired at this point, unless they somehow win the East and his premium picks from last year look good.
RE: RE: This trade worked out well for us in that the Bucs  
MtDizzle : 10/30/2020 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15029696 BigBlueShock said:
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Got JPP and we got BJ Hill and his 7.5 career sacks.


JPP was making a ton of money on a team that was going nowhere anytime soon. But that kind of reasoning is obviously over your head. People certainly have incredibly short memories...


It’s not our money. There’s always ways to make wiggle room with the cap. We threw away a premier player for peanuts. Seems to be a trend.
JPP is a  
TheEvilLurker : 10/30/2020 9:29 pm : link
Vampire?
RE: RE: JPP perfectly sums up  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/30/2020 10:48 pm : link
In comment 15029726 Zeke's Alibi said:
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DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me



DG has been hit or (mostly) miss and at this moment in time want him fired. The only thing that can save him in my mind is if some the rookies really shine and the team wins the East. Of course this past draft class could turn around and be great down the line, Lemiux, Peart, and Thomas pan out into solid starters and building blocks for a good, YOUNG, offensive line.

And the defense as a whole is solidly built from a roster perspective and either a boundary corner or edge rusher away from being top 3rd and both from being elite. The nice thing about missing only this and having the rest of the defense built out is you only need to hit once to transform. Lots of teams have these things and still suck defensively because the rest of their defense stinks.


The team is 1-6 and can’t even compete in what is amounting to the worst division in the history of the NFL. He’s been objectively terrible at his job. And he’s been way more miss than hit
JPP  
Dragon : 10/30/2020 11:07 pm : link
Was traded shit happens yet this organization can’t see it’s ok to trade or release many of the bags of rocks were still holding onto. No doubt he potentially could have been one of the greatest Giants but they moved on let’s see what he’s got left against our special group.
He's been bad, not saying that, but he could potentially  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/30/2020 11:18 pm : link
be looked upon as mediocre depending on how DJ and this draft class turns out. He did crush FA this year, dollar for dollar we definitely had one of the top FA classes this year. Of course, you can't really judge that until the life of these contracts. However, part of building successful is crushing those second-tier signing and Bradberry and Martinez look fantastic. Martinez is also only 26 and Bradberry has the type of game at corner were you can def see him not falling off the cliff at 29. Add Fackrell who may just be one of those guys that needed a new start (he was a 3rd round pic). Promising to say the least.

Of course this is really the only bright spot on Resume Dave's resume, but maybe 2020 was the year he knocked it out of the park. If this draft class is as good as the FA class seems to be and DJ is franchise QB I think Giants fans will end up looking back that he was a decent GM.

To me the biggest strike against him is he signed off on the Shurmur hire. Have no idea what he saw in him as HC material, a guy with an awful Rolodex as well. Absolutely seemed like a reactionary move, one we've seen too often lately as he was an "adult". Players straight up regressed under that coaching staff. Too little too late as far as his job is concerned, but as Giants fan we should be hoping for this. That he was a GM that was sunk by his coaching hire.
RE: He might be a yapper, but he's a good player  
ZogZerg : 10/31/2020 9:47 am : link
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& helped us win a Super Bowl so...


Soooo, what does that have to do with the cost of tea in China?
RE: Good..  
Harvest Blend : 10/31/2020 11:53 am : link
In comment 15029305 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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thing Merton Hanks retired


Yup, I laughed. Good one!
Love JPP  
Sonic Youth : 10/31/2020 1:02 pm : link
Like him more than anyone on this team
RE: Love JPP  
Toth029 : 10/31/2020 2:41 pm : link
In comment 15029960 Sonic Youth said:
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Like him more than anyone on this team


A lot of good guys on this team, like Logan Ryan, and you go with a guy who blew his hand off lighting fireworks.
RE: RE: Love JPP  
Sonic Youth : 10/31/2020 2:46 pm : link
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Like him more than anyone on this team



A lot of good guys on this team, like Logan Ryan, and you go with a guy who blew his hand off lighting fireworks.
Alright, admittedly hyperbole, Logan Ryan is the man. I lived next to him at Rutgers, great guy.

But in terms of liking someone from an NYG fanhood standpoint, nobody on this team holds a candle to JPP.

Also, is blowing his hand off with a firework supposed to make him a bad person or something? That was an awful accident, it's not like it'a a reflection on him.
Not surprising  
GManinDC : 10/31/2020 3:53 pm : link
This fan base runs down every player was they have bad season. Hell, BBI was bad mouthing Psi for years. Even his 8 FF season.

As much as people had those ex players, 2016 team has more wins than the 2017 - 2020 team
The Giants are gonna get killed on Monday Night Football....  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/31/2020 7:57 pm : link
So if JPP wants to humiliate his former team he'll have no trouble doing whatever he wants. The Giants will probably let him.
This team is a disgrace to wear that uniform.
Right now the team has one true star, who's out for the year and may never fully recover.
Shut up you moron ....  
short lease : 10/31/2020 8:45 pm : link


go find your thumb before you start looking for a neck.
The Giants should have a huge ...  
short lease : 10/31/2020 8:48 pm : link
Fireworks show before the game or at halftime to get into his head.

But, they have to much class for that. Good thing they are not playing in my stadium.
Excuse me ☝️  
Saquads26 : 10/31/2020 11:12 pm : link
RE: Well, Gettleman is a complete disaster.  
JohnnyFlowers : 11/1/2020 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15029723 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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An absolute horrible hire. But yeah, we beat Washington a couple of weeks ago!


Blake Martinez seems like a solid move. But I want DG out as well
RE: RE: Love JPP  
MtDizzle : 11/1/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15030024 Toth029 said:
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Like him more than anyone on this team



A lot of good guys on this team, like Logan Ryan, and you go with a guy who blew his hand off lighting fireworks.


Yeah because that defines him as a human being. If you ever had a chance to say that to his face you'd most likely shit yourself pal.
RE: The Giants should have a huge ...  
MtDizzle : 11/1/2020 10:39 pm : link
In comment 15030177 short lease said:
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Fireworks show before the game or at halftime to get into his head.

But, they have to much class for that. Good thing they are not playing in my stadium.


Yes they do have class. Fans used to follow suit.
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