"I'm coming for their necks. They know that," Jason Pierre-Paul said of Monday night at Giants. Still has love for his old team, but motivated for sure.
out of him, he would get some kind of phantom injury. Sean O'Hara did a piece before he blew up his hand about him on
NFLN where he stated that tight ends manhandled JPP alone because he was afraid of most of the tackles in the league. We carried his worthless butt much longer than we should have.
1 year wonder!!!?? Wow. That's an idiotic statement
Am I missing something? That was two seasons ago and the first season in Tampa. Still feels like his ego needs checked and his maturity level never improved.
Tuck or Osi didnt say these things when they played elsewhere. Neither did Burress and he is shot himself.
Collins and Odell say thes ed things but those two acting like a child is not surprising.
JJP proved to be a head case and a fool -- but the productivity numbers don't lie.
As a Giant, he was a very productive player. A lot of these stats weren't kept until the mid 90s, so it's really where he stood among Giants in the last 30 years.
In 111 games his franchise rankings:
- 3rd in TFLs with 87
- 7th in sacks with 58.5
- 4th in FF 13
- 5th in PD (in his cases tipped balls) with 47
He's had 2 pretty good streaks in his career, bookending one of the most bizarre periods for a player.
is a bad matchup for the Giants OL has to be the understatement of the year. EVERYONE, including some NCAA Div III schools are a bad matchup for the Giants OL.
JFC. he's playing his former team so it's a big day for him. He's just trying to make it more interesting in a non-literal way.
It's got nothing to do with immaturity or karate chopping somebody's neck but more so he wants to send the Giants organization a message they made the wrong decision on letting him go and he's still got some fire in his fingertips.
JFC. he's playing his former team so it's a big day for him. He's just trying to make it more interesting in a non-literal way.
It's got nothing to do with immaturity or karate chopping somebody's neck but more so he wants to send the Giants organization a message they made the wrong decision on letting him go and he's still got some fire in his fingertips.
He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?
28 games, 15.5 sacks O_o. I liked JPP, but I don't miss him. He's playing well in a stacked front for TB. I'm honestly glad he's doing well, but he had questionable effort at times here and was making way more money than his production warranted. I don't think he'd be doing near as well here.
He was not a consistently dominant player for us before he was traded. He would disappear for long stretches and then out of nowhere would have a three sack game here and there. For instance, in both his 7 and 8 sack seasons in 2016 and 2017, 5 sacks came in 2 games.
We could use a pass rush right now, but at the time he was not considered a fit for the 3-4 defense we were switching to in 2018. I don't remember a lot of people being unhappy he was shipped out.
I did not believe JPP was a part of the culture problem, here, and did not associate him being shipped out with culture.
He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?
So the better (and more boring) option is to just say "yeah I already got it out of my system, this is just like any other game for me."?
Whatever you say champ. Screams hey look at me more than anything. Vets like Tuck and Osi didn't do those things. Because they're grown ups and didn't do petty things like that.
Firework reference. At least this guy did something for the franchise.
Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.
Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
Firework reference. At least this guy did something for the franchise.
Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.
Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
Seriously. JPP had one of the most dominate performances in recent Giants history over the Cowboys in 2011. A lot of people here have rose colored glasses for anyone or anything employed by the Giants.
is playing lights out. Why did we get rid of him again?? Oh yeah he’s bad for the culture!!! What a fucking joke.
Who cares about culture? I mean, I care about culture because I really like jazz but that's an entirely different definition right there.
Point being, if the Giants of the 80s cared so much about culture LT would have been cut in 1986. And where would they have gone after that?
I’m with you. I don’t care how mature or well spoken players are. I want animals on that field that lay it all on the line. I don’t mind a little craziness, you gotta be crazy to play this game. I long for the days of dogs like Rolle, Bradshaw and Jacobs on this team. Not the best spoken guys all the time but they had heart and leadership for days.
Involves knowing and doing your job on the field. A good team culture is where all players buy into winning at all costs. I believe that is more of what teams look for when speaking about team culture.
and he plays it like he did here. Decided to look up the read option before this post and there is JPP as the example as to when the QB keeps the ball. Good times.
This trade worked out well for us in that the Bucs
JPP needs to be on a team with an overall good front 7 and can’t be the number 1 pass rusher. Double teams completely neutralize him and he needs his guys to swarm to ball because he struggle setting the edge out in space. If he were still here people would be screaming for him off the team.
he was a good player for us until he blew off his hand. The Giants could have cut his ass immediately and instead did the honorable thing and let him stay.
He should thank the organization for doing what they did for him. The Giants basically saved his career.
Got JPP and we got BJ Hill and his 7.5 career sacks.
JPP was making a ton of money on a team that was going nowhere anytime soon. But that kind of reasoning is obviously over your head. People certainly have incredibly short memories...
I can't believe people aren't appreciative of him. Other than blowing off his hand he was a great Giant.
So what he's mad at us? From his perspective he probably thought he was going to be a Giant for life, won a superbowl with us, got shipped out of town, and has been pretty damn productive. I'd think most players would relish the idea of being a part of the organization as a lifer with a superbowl ring on one of those fingers. Something to be said coming back, getting invited to stuff always, or being able to be at the facilities whenever you want. I'd be spiteful too, at least until I retired and how some time to separate my emotions from the Giants logic.
On a side not I'd imagine this is part of every teams pitch when you they are trying to resign guys they've drafted.
Exactly. And I think it's entirely possible he ends up in the Giants Ring of Honor one day. And it'd be well deserved.
I really just don't get the animus towards him. Yeah, he was an idiot that 4th of July. He probably admits as much too. But he was a great Giant that helped us win a FREAKING SUPER BOWL.
Firework reference. At least this guy did something for the franchise.
Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.
Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
Meanwhile our pass rush has been pathetic since he left.
People's memories are faded. A lot of BBI wanted him traded because he kept missing tackles with the bad hand and he had a huge contract which put the Giants in a bind with the CAP(one of the reasons not him alone). While many of us loved JPP, there was a large contingent that wanted him traded to save money. Truth is I am not even sure where I stood. Probably against it, but realized they had to because of the CAP.
Yes, the pass rush has been bad since and OV did nothing at all and continued to do nothing after he left.
DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me
DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me
Gettleman must've thought Leonard Williams was something like Bob Lilly. Far from it, he's not even a Warren Sapp.
DGs tenure as GM. His replacement is an a interior DL who can’t rush the pass or see the field because Dave has overinvested resources into one of the least premium positions in football. How anyone can rationalize Gettlemans resume is mind boggling to me
DG has been hit or (mostly) miss and at this moment in time want him fired. The only thing that can save him in my mind is if some the rookies really shine and the team wins the East. Of course this past draft class could turn around and be great down the line, Lemiux, Peart, and Thomas pan out into solid starters and building blocks for a good, YOUNG, offensive line.
And the defense as a whole is solidly built from a roster perspective and either a boundary corner or edge rusher away from being top 3rd and both from being elite. The nice thing about missing only this and having the rest of the defense built out is you only need to hit once to transform. Lots of teams have these things and still suck defensively because the rest of their defense stinks.
I forgot to add DG certainly hasn't done enough to warrant him
He did have a scoop and score in 2016 after blowing off half his hand.
NFLN where he stated that tight ends manhandled JPP alone because he was afraid of most of the tackles in the league. We carried his worthless butt much longer than we should have.
1 year wonder!!!?? Wow. That's an idiotic statement
Am I missing something? That was two seasons ago and the first season in Tampa. Still feels like his ego needs checked and his maturity level never improved.
Tuck or Osi didnt say these things when they played elsewhere. Neither did Burress and he is shot himself.
Collins and Odell say thes ed things but those two acting like a child is not surprising.
As a Giant, he was a very productive player. A lot of these stats weren't kept until the mid 90s, so it's really where he stood among Giants in the last 30 years.
In 111 games his franchise rankings:
- 3rd in TFLs with 87
- 7th in sacks with 58.5
- 4th in FF 13
- 5th in PD (in his cases tipped balls) with 47
He's had 2 pretty good streaks in his career, bookending one of the most bizarre periods for a player.
It's got nothing to do with immaturity or karate chopping somebody's neck but more so he wants to send the Giants organization a message they made the wrong decision on letting him go and he's still got some fire in his fingertips.
Much better than I thought...
It's got nothing to do with immaturity or karate chopping somebody's neck but more so he wants to send the Giants organization a message they made the wrong decision on letting him go and he's still got some fire in his fingertips.
He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?
Who cares about culture? I mean, I care about culture because I really like jazz but that's an entirely different definition right there.
Point being, if the Giants of the 80s cared so much about culture LT would have been cut in 1986. And where would they have gone after that?
So the better (and more boring) option is to just say "yeah I already got it out of my system, this is just like any other game for me."?
We could use a pass rush right now, but at the time he was not considered a fit for the 3-4 defense we were switching to in 2018. I don't remember a lot of people being unhappy he was shipped out.
I did not believe JPP was a part of the culture problem, here, and did not associate him being shipped out with culture.
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He literally played them two years ago. He played well. Didnt that prove the missed him? And he is still acting like this. That's maturity?
So the better (and more boring) option is to just say "yeah I already got it out of my system, this is just like any other game for me."?
Whatever you say champ. Screams hey look at me more than anything. Vets like Tuck and Osi didn't do those things. Because they're grown ups and didn't do petty things like that.
Or blow their hand off with a firework.
Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.
Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.
Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
Seriously. JPP had one of the most dominate performances in recent Giants history over the Cowboys in 2011. A lot of people here have rose colored glasses for anyone or anything employed by the Giants.
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is playing lights out. Why did we get rid of him again?? Oh yeah he’s bad for the culture!!! What a fucking joke.
Who cares about culture? I mean, I care about culture because I really like jazz but that's an entirely different definition right there.
Point being, if the Giants of the 80s cared so much about culture LT would have been cut in 1986. And where would they have gone after that?
I’m with you. I don’t care how mature or well spoken players are. I want animals on that field that lay it all on the line. I don’t mind a little craziness, you gotta be crazy to play this game. I long for the days of dogs like Rolle, Bradshaw and Jacobs on this team. Not the best spoken guys all the time but they had heart and leadership for days.
I'm glad for him, his 2011 season was unforgettable.
He should thank the organization for doing what they did for him. The Giants basically saved his career.
He was DPOY worthy in 2011.
Nobody will ever confuse him for a rocket scientist though.
JPP was making a ton of money on a team that was going nowhere anytime soon. But that kind of reasoning is obviously over your head. People certainly have incredibly short memories...
I can't believe people aren't appreciative of him. Other than blowing off his hand he was a great Giant.
So what he's mad at us? From his perspective he probably thought he was going to be a Giant for life, won a superbowl with us, got shipped out of town, and has been pretty damn productive. I'd think most players would relish the idea of being a part of the organization as a lifer with a superbowl ring on one of those fingers. Something to be said coming back, getting invited to stuff always, or being able to be at the facilities whenever you want. I'd be spiteful too, at least until I retired and how some time to separate my emotions from the Giants logic.
On a side not I'd imagine this is part of every teams pitch when you they are trying to resign guys they've drafted.
I really just don't get the animus towards him. Yeah, he was an idiot that 4th of July. He probably admits as much too. But he was a great Giant that helped us win a FREAKING SUPER BOWL.
Sorry if I don't feel the need to come to the front lines and defend Daniel Jones and Evan Engram lol and the rest of the losers who cannot keep a lid on a late 21-10 lead over Philly.
Brady might throw 6 touchdowns on Monday, 8 if you piss him off.
WTF? Quaaludes
JPP helped the Giants win a Super Bowl. The 46th one. The guys on this team now suck. Suck badly. They do.
People's memories are faded. A lot of BBI wanted him traded because he kept missing tackles with the bad hand and he had a huge contract which put the Giants in a bind with the CAP(one of the reasons not him alone). While many of us loved JPP, there was a large contingent that wanted him traded to save money. Truth is I am not even sure where I stood. Probably against it, but realized they had to because of the CAP.
Yes, the pass rush has been bad since and OV did nothing at all and continued to do nothing after he left.
Gettleman must've thought Leonard Williams was something like Bob Lilly. Far from it, he's not even a Warren Sapp.
DG has been hit or (mostly) miss and at this moment in time want him fired. The only thing that can save him in my mind is if some the rookies really shine and the team wins the East. Of course this past draft class could turn around and be great down the line, Lemiux, Peart, and Thomas pan out into solid starters and building blocks for a good, YOUNG, offensive line.
And the defense as a whole is solidly built from a roster perspective and either a boundary corner or edge rusher away from being top 3rd and both from being elite. The nice thing about missing only this and having the rest of the defense built out is you only need to hit once to transform. Lots of teams have these things and still suck defensively because the rest of their defense stinks.