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EricJ : 11/15/2020 4:08 pm
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Nice win  
Lines of Scrimmage : 11/15/2020 4:48 pm : link
Giants are competing and winning more often than not on the lines. There is more talent than people think on the team and some Mckinney might be a nice add with Xman providing depth. The turnaround is they are playing more and more as a team. Well done and happy they get a break from the game for a bit on a positive note.

RE: NYG/NFC East  
Ivan15 : 11/15/2020 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15046068 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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Tied for 1st in the in column!


Unfortunately, the half-win (the tie) could be the tiebreaker.
RE: RE: Eagles were 0 for 9...  
bw in dc : 11/15/2020 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15046191 Gman11 said:
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on third down.

That is an amazing stat.



Misleading. They had 22 first downs. Same amount as the Giants. They just got their first downs on first and second down.


Why is it misleading? I wouldn't undersell that. The NFL average third down conversion is around 40%. Philly was at 43% entering the game.

Those are key opportunities to stop or continue drives. To stop points or add points the other way with change of possession. So that is a great credit to the D.


RE: This feels like a playoff win after the past few seasons.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/15/2020 4:51 pm : link
In comment 15046171 j_rud said:
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A win that really feels like theyre headed in the right direction, and its over the godforsaken MFing Eagles. GodDAMN this feels good!


Hell yes!
RE: The last Gano FG was a mini version of the game ...  
Fred-in-Florida : 11/15/2020 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15046160 Keyser said:
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FG to put the game away, looks like its slicing wide right, everyone thinking "here we go again", and then someone in heaven said "there will be no miracle in the meadowlands part 1000 today", and the ball hooked right back in.


Nice little draw!
RE: They should be 6-4 right now, too.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/15/2020 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15046253 mittenedman said:
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Double digit leads in their last 6 games. They are going to start expecting to win and do well in these games. The tide is turning.



Yessir!
It's a good start  
Greg from LI : 11/15/2020 4:52 pm : link
It's a win they absolutely needed to make any progress. Got the Philly monkey off their backs.
RE: The last Gano FG was a mini version of the game ...  
Fred-in-Florida : 11/15/2020 4:54 pm : link
In comment 15046160 Keyser said:
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FG to put the game away, looks like its slicing wide right, everyone thinking "here we go again", and then someone in heaven said "there will be no miracle in the meadowlands part 1000 today", and the ball hooked right back in.


Nice little draw!
RE: I asked in the game thread, but it got buried  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2020 4:55 pm : link
In comment 15046143 Matt M. said:
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Before Hernandez replaced the injured Zeitler late in the 3rd, had either him or Peart been in? Did Peart play at all? I don't get even the notion of a rotation. Just play Lemieux and Peart for Zeitler and Fleming.


Peart was in the game on the 3rd drive (I think) following the 2 TDs. His man beat him around the edge on 3rd down causing an errant throw by Jones.
RE: It's a good start  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/15/2020 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15046284 Greg from LI said:
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It's a win they absolutely needed to make any progress. Got the Philly monkey off their backs.


You goddamn right!
The thing I really like about DJ's performance today.  
jsuds : 11/15/2020 4:56 pm : link
He handled the wind well.

In fact it didn't seem to affect his throws at all.

Key skillset to succeed at Metlife late in the year.

With a few more weapons he can succeed.
RE: They should be 6-4 right now, too.  
dpinzow : 11/15/2020 4:56 pm : link
In comment 15046253 mittenedman said:
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Double digit leads in their last 6 games. They are going to start expecting to win and do well in these games. The tide is turning.


We should be 5-0 in the NFC East for sure. Dalton made a lucky throw to Gallup at the end of that game in Dallas and Engram dropped that easy catch in Philly. What I hope starts happening is that they use the Eagles win as a springboard to start beating other real teams. The schedule is moderately hard and there are a couple of really difficult away games (Baltimore and Seattle) there which are likely losses. However, we have Cincinnati, Cleveland, Arizona and Dallas which are all winnable
Outside of Martinez  
LBH15 : 11/15/2020 4:58 pm : link
our LBs really stink. Who the hell kept missing tackles...Mayo?
They were who we thought they were...  
Coopcomic : 11/15/2020 5:04 pm : link
And we didn't let them off the hook!
RE: Outside of Martinez  
bceagle05 : 11/15/2020 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15046300 LBH15 said:
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our LBs really stink. Who the hell kept missing tackles...Mayo?

Yeah Mayo has a rough day. Still plenty of work to do on this roster.
Is there anything more beautiful than Giants in victory formation  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/15/2020 5:11 pm : link
with the Eagles on the other side?
RE: Is there anything more beautiful than Giants in victory formation  
dpinzow : 11/15/2020 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15046349 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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with the Eagles on the other side?


Maybe the Giants in victory formation with Dallas on the other side
RE: Is there anything more beautiful than Giants in victory formation  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/15/2020 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15046349 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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with the Eagles on the other side?


Only playoff and super bowls!
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/15/2020 5:16 pm : link
Leonard Williams was officially credited with five quarterback hits.
Gotta give Jason Garrett credit...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/15/2020 5:17 pm : link
He finally read those threatening letters GO TERPS sent to his house and designed running plays for the quarterback. The TD and the almost TD were excellent plays.

Jones did an excellent job in the second half because the Giants badly needed to score after the Eagles TD. (BTW, FUCK BOSTON SCOTT!!! Does this guy do anything against anyone else?) The deep throws to contested Shep and Tate were great. The catch by Slayton on the not so good throw was great.

Props to Nick Gates. I didn’t watch him the entire game, but he made some great blocks during the game.

The defense was ugly at times, but the “bend but don’t break” style worked again. Late in the game, they kept putting the Eagles in 2nd/3rd and longs.

Gino with his first kick with pressure and a bad snap. Good job.

Gotta give Joe Judge a TON of credit. Wouldn’t it be amazing if Judge and Brian Flores were the two best coaches of the Belicheck tree and not the big name assistant?
RE: RE: RE: I might head downtown...  
j_rud : 11/15/2020 5:18 pm : link
In comment 15046218 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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for work tomorrow just so I can see all the miserable Eagles fans on the subway and in Center City. Biggest win in 4 years.


Sports talk radio in Philly is going to be absolutely incredible tomorrow. I might actually go for a ride right now just to soak it all in.



I will wake up a bit earlier to get WIP going. Suck it Cataldi!


I usually check in Friday before Giants-Eagles games to hear what they're saying, and he was talking tons of shit about Jones. Its gonna be glorious...
Another 150+ yards rushing today  
PatersonPlank : 11/15/2020 5:22 pm : link
the OL is getting better
RE: Another 150+ yards rushing today  
FStubbs : 11/15/2020 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15046379 PatersonPlank said:
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the OL is getting better


Big key.

Eagles wins are rare but always enjoyable. Nice two week break to bask in it.
Never thought I would be this happy  
Blue Dream : 11/15/2020 5:27 pm : link
To be 3-7
RE: .........  
widmerseyebrow : 11/15/2020 5:28 pm : link
In comment 15046183 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Great win.

And man how over rated is Doug Pederson

Wentz came out in the second half red hot. On second down, he inserts Hurts under center in an obvious run for no gain, forcing 3rd and long. They wind up punting, killing their momentum.


It's amazing how much they went to Hurts in these two games. Free down for the Giants. It feels like a mandate from Roseman to make his pick look good or something.
RE: ...  
j_rud : 11/15/2020 5:30 pm : link
In comment 15046364 Eric from BBI said:
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Leonard Williams was officially credited with five quarterback hits.


RE: This win feels like a miracle  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 11/15/2020 5:30 pm : link
In comment 15046154 BestFeature said:
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I've gotten conditioned to not believing it was possible to beat this team. It's not that we lose we just find the craziest way to lose. This goes as far back as 2003 with the Westbrook punt game. Might even say back to 2001 with the Lambuth Special and that first game we should have won too.


2003? Try 1978! Joe Pisarcik!
RE: ...  
widmerseyebrow : 11/15/2020 5:32 pm : link
In comment 15046364 Eric from BBI said:
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Leonard Williams was officially credited with five quarterback hits.


To think we could have locked him up as a FA for cheap after a lackluster year on the Jets. He ain't gonna be cheap now.
Hoo  
Spider43 : 11/15/2020 5:42 pm : link
That was indeed a statement win. The game is so much easier when you don't turn the ball over.
Impressive that  
Des51 : 11/15/2020 5:53 pm : link
we beat the Eagles and Washington after they come off their bye week.
RE: Impressive that  
bw in dc : 11/15/2020 5:55 pm : link
In comment 15046454 Des51 said:
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we beat the Eagles and Washington after they come off their bye week.


That is a very good point.
RE: Best game of DJ career?  
5BowlsSoon : 11/15/2020 5:57 pm : link
In comment 15046207 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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I agree, He played a very good game. Best of this season, but no way best of his career. That was against Washington late lat season when he went 28-42 for 352 yds with 5 touchdown passes and 0 int. Still did a terrific job of protecting the ball and managing the game. He showed growth which is something he had not been doing all season.


Jones had 3 games last year where he threw for >300 yards, 4 tds, and no interceptions. Those 3 games were pretty good too.
RE: offensive play calling  
Adirondack GMen : 11/15/2020 6:08 pm : link
In comment 15046220 giantfan2000 said:
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first time in many years I can not predict what next Giants offensive play will be .

Garrett is light years ahead of previous HC/OC

Sign Garrett to a long term contract- at least 3year deal. And no release for a coaching job.. he’s ours now and calls one heck of a game.
RE: Great win  
ColHowPepper : 11/15/2020 6:15 pm : link
In comment 15046189 mittenedman said:
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That sequence of playcalling after the huge Slayton catch almost gave me a nervous breakdown.

Well in FG range, the game changes from needing yards to simply needing to burn clock and protect field position.

Instead: they go shotgun 3 times. 1st play an east-west end around that loses yardage. 3rd play gets blown up in the backfield and almost causes a fumble.

Just line up in a Jumbo formation and run up the gut 3 times. Even taking 3 knees is a sound strategy there.
Absolutely.
Jones impressed me today  
jhibb : 11/15/2020 6:20 pm : link
with the way he handled the wind. Wentz had quite a few passes sail on him.
Wen was the last time our offensive line  
gtt350 : 11/15/2020 6:28 pm : link
plowed the whole defensive line into the end zone on the goal line.
I was yelling who the hell are these guys? great stuff today.
And that fucking ref ruining Jone's second TD was a ridiculous call
Watch the Bengals game on now to get  
Simms11 : 11/15/2020 6:33 pm : link
and idea of what the Giants will be seeing in a few weeks.
Great win!  
trueblueinpw : 11/15/2020 6:41 pm : link
This team is really well coached. Even with the sputtering drive at the end of the half they managed to not give the ball away or allow any cheap points before the half. And yeah, they gave up the TD out of the gate to the second half but then punched right back with those two nice throws down field by Jones.

Offense, defense and specials played well. The coaches had good game plans and worked the game situations exactly right. I think this might be the most complete game I’ve seen from Big Blue in years. I’m very happy.
I wouldn't say I'm yet at a point where I can say I feel good about  
Matt M. : 11/15/2020 6:44 pm : link
this year. But, after the last few weeks, I at least feel good that we don't outright suck and I am optimistic for the future.

Plus, after the bye, I am excited to see McKinney and Ximinesback. Perhaps with the extra practice time Holmes can push for the #2 CB spot. On D, with everyone healthy, we are only 2 or 3 players from being a good D. Not, great, but good enough to rely on.
Threw some back afterwards.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/15/2020 6:46 pm : link
Man...this win felt goooood.
GREAT WIN.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/15/2020 6:52 pm : link
Huge to finally beat the Eagles. Such a well played game by the Giants today. More of this, please!
This team still needs some front office changes  
ajr2456 : 11/15/2020 6:57 pm : link
And has some glaring holes but they have what could turn out to be a top 10 staff in the league, if not better.

Hopefully they get some deep playoff runs in before Graham gets a head coaching gig.
Don’t want to start  
Everyone Relax : 11/15/2020 6:58 pm : link
a new thread for this, but Drew Lock suuuuuuuuucks
It all comes down to the offensive line play  
Hammer : 11/15/2020 7:18 pm : link
For the first time in recent memory, the offensive line is getting a push off the line of scrimmage and protecting the quarterback.

Everything grows from there.
RE: Is there anything more beautiful than Giants in victory formation  
Del Shofner : 11/15/2020 7:20 pm : link
In comment 15046349 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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with the Eagles on the other side?


No Joe Pisarcik or Herman Edwards...
RE: It all comes down to the offensive line play  
Matt M. : 11/15/2020 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15046602 Hammer said:
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For the first time in recent memory, the offensive line is getting a push off the line of scrimmage and protecting the quarterback.

Everything grows from there.
Agreed. For years, I never felt good in short yardage situations. Now, you see Gallman waltzing into the end zone.
what just happened to the Bills...  
jnoble : 11/15/2020 7:27 pm : link
Boy I'm glad that wasn't us
LOL


Holy crap
Just checking back in...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/15/2020 7:36 pm : link
I feel good/I knew that I would, now/So good, so good
It’s not really about the turnovers  
Carl in CT : 11/15/2020 7:39 pm : link
The game is easy when your OL can block. Thats what stops 75% of the turnovers.
RE: It all comes down to the offensive line play  
ColHowPepper : 11/15/2020 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15046602 Hammer said:
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For the first time in recent memory, the offensive line is getting a push off the line of scrimmage and protecting the quarterback.Everything grows from there.
Not sure the OL is yet at the point of 'protecting the quarterback"...3 sacks, 7 hits, lots of times Jones running for his life. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Is it improving? I think so, but a long way to go.

And to the clueless poster who ripped Jones for not throwing the perfect strike to EE in Q4 because it was to the outside and OOB, he had a DL with an arm in his face throwing off his back foot. But, yes, back to your scheduled programming of bashing Jones.
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