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Nick Chubb's decision at 1-yard line costs bettors

Stan in LA : 11/15/2020 7:42 pm
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Nick Chubb's 59-yard run all but closed out the Cleveland Browns' 10-7 win over the Houston Texans on Sunday. His decision to step out of bounds at the 1-yard line, instead of running into the end zone for a touchdown that would've covered the point spread, was painful for the betting public.

Chubb took a pitch on a third-and-3 with 1:07 to play, juked a defender and cut up the left sideline and into the clear. The Browns, who were favored by 4.5, were clinging to a 3-point lead. The Texans had no timeouts, so Chubb said the plan was for him to pick up the first down then give himself up, allowing the Browns to run out the remaining seconds by kneeling down.

At the Texans' 1-yard line, with no defender close, Chubb took a sharp left turn and went out of bounds. The Browns kneeled down on the final two plays and sealed a 3-point victory for their sixth win of the season.

"I got a call from the coaches, from [quarterback] Baker [Mayfield] to not score, get a first down to end the game. So that's what I did," Chubb said after the game. "Luckily the run was a little longer because I didn't think about it until the last 10 yards."

The Browns were supported heavily by the betting public. The line opened at Cleveland -2.5, but was bet up to -3.5 by Friday and closed at -4.5 at most sportsbooks.

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I doubt these guys-considering the coin  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/15/2020 7:45 pm : link
they're making-know the lines.
Fuck the gamblers  
UConn4523 : 11/15/2020 7:45 pm : link
heads up play, unselfish. Need more of that.
Not scoring  
pjcas18 : 11/15/2020 7:50 pm : link
there really didn't make much difference.

It would have been a two score game with under a min left.

the two kneel downs at the 1 yard line were probably as risky as the game would have been otherwise.




Players and coaches just want to end the game  
UConn4523 : 11/15/2020 7:51 pm : link
it’s more to do with that than prolonging being out their and risking injury for nothing. It’s a decision I’d expect Judge to make.
RE: Not scoring  
Stan in LA : 11/15/2020 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15046660 pjcas18 said:
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there really didn't make much difference.

It would have been a two score game with under a min left.

the two kneel downs at the 1 yard line were probably as risky as the game would have been otherwise.




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ESPN's win probability metric showed Cleveland had a greater than 99.9% chance of winning whether Chubb scored to put the Browns up nine with an extra point pending or decided to step out of bounds and let Mayfield kneel down to run off the final seconds.
Westbrook did the same thing  
jeffro1 : 11/15/2020 8:05 pm : link
For the Eagles a few years back (Breaking away and going down on his own at the 1) and cost me a fantasy championship
On the flip side  
BlackLight : 11/15/2020 8:26 pm : link
I remember years ago, when Edgerrin James was on the Colts, he was in a similar situation. He was told to take the handoff, get the first down, and get down to preserve the win. But he had an incentive-laden contract, and the yards he'd be giving up was money out of his pocket.

So he took the handoff and got his yards. Can't say I blame him. Don't offer guys contracts that offer money for yards and TDs, and expect players not to take advantage in the service of "Team First."
I had a 5 bet parlay where $15 would have paid around $600.  
3putt : 11/15/2020 8:42 pm : link
I covered 4 bets. The 5th? Cleveland giving 3.5.
degenerates losing money on other people?  
islander1 : 11/15/2020 8:49 pm : link
oh well!
Well almost the same thing happened  
Earl the goat : 11/15/2020 8:53 pm : link
After the cards Hail Mary
I was laying 3 on the cards and thinking I was going to push but the cards decided not to go for extra point and kneel during two point conversion
That’s why they call it gambling
Outstanding.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/16/2020 9:28 am : link
Smart, unselfish, indifferent to gamblers and fantasy players.
I can't imagine the stress that comes with gambling on games.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/16/2020 9:30 am : link
I couldn't do it.
RE: RE: Not scoring  
pivo : 11/16/2020 2:33 pm : link
In comment 15046673 Stan in LA said:
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In comment 15046660 pjcas18 said:


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there really didn't make much difference.

It would have been a two score game with under a min left.

the two kneel downs at the 1 yard line were probably as risky as the game would have been otherwise.






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ESPN's win probability metric showed Cleveland had a greater than 99.9% chance of winning whether Chubb scored to put the Browns up nine with an extra point pending or decided to step out of bounds and let Mayfield kneel down to run off the final seconds.



If they got the ball back the Texans have 0.1% chance of winning. If they don't get the ball back, 0.00%. Good play by Chubb.
RE: RE: RE: Not scoring  
pjcas18 : 11/16/2020 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15047950 pivo said:
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In comment 15046660 pjcas18 said:


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there really didn't make much difference.

It would have been a two score game with under a min left.

the two kneel downs at the 1 yard line were probably as risky as the game would have been otherwise.






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ESPN's win probability metric showed Cleveland had a greater than 99.9% chance of winning whether Chubb scored to put the Browns up nine with an extra point pending or decided to step out of bounds and let Mayfield kneel down to run off the final seconds.





If they got the ball back the Texans have 0.1% chance of winning. If they don't get the ball back, 0.00%. Good play by Chubb.


The probability of the Browns fumbling the ball on the knee downs is the same as them of losing the game
I understand the decision, but at the same time it made no difference  
BH28 : 11/16/2020 3:23 pm : link
It's not like it's a 1 point game where a score gives the opposing team the ball back with a chance to tie down 8.

This would have made it a two score game with less than a minute. I don't know what the probability difference between that and a potential fumble on the kneel down is, but i assume either decsion had a close to zero probability difference on the outcome of the game.

This isn't an Ahmad Bradhsaw situation either where you want to run the clock down and kick a FG either.
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