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So is Obi Toppin

Kira Lewis is with Verus,same as Kevin Knox

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needs to decide if he wants 1 year for or like 4/80. Might be worth it to take the extra years at the lower salary. Assuming he can still get that much.

What is vassell upside? He def seems to have a lower ceiling then some of the other options (with a higher floor).

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needs to decide if he wants 1 year for or like 4/80. Might be worth it to take the extra years at the lower salary. Assuming he can still get that much. What is vassell upside? He def seems to have a lower ceiling then some of the other options (with a higher floor).

he is a 3 and d guy, he is going to be your lock down defender on the perimiter..

the athletic draft guide made the comparison to Danny Green. I dunno, feel like those types of guys can be found later then top 10.

Can't wait to hear the explanation if Daniel Otoru really does go in the 2nd round,like they're saying.

Might here lots of fancy words that don't add up to much

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the athletic draft guide made the comparison to Danny Green. I dunno, feel like those types of guys can be found later then top 10.

That is the problem with this draft, it is a bunch of role players

think Hayes can be much more than a role player.

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the athletic draft guide made the comparison to Danny Green. I dunno, feel like those types of guys can be found later then top 10.

The same could’ve been said for Klay Thompson and Devin Booker as draft prospects. Doesn’t mean he’ll come close to being as good as those two players but player comparisons are useless.

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think Hayes can be much more than a role player.

I am good with Hayes or Lewis

In comment 15048334 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15048323 Jon in NYC said: Quote: think Hayes can be much more than a role player. I think the Knicks will regret not taking Lewis. I'm still hearing Vassell. I am good with Hayes or Lewis

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In comment 15048334 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 15048323 Jon in NYC said: Quote: think Hayes can be much more than a role player. I think the Knicks will regret not taking Lewis. I'm still hearing Vassell. I am good with Hayes or Lewis

I like Vassell, but they do need a point guard, Thibs like to put the ball in his guarss hands, it is part of the reason i think they like Westbrook..

Thibs knows he can trust Westbrook to run the offense..

I hesitate to even share this as it is against everything I have ever heard and I have sources close to the Bucks.
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I hesitate to even share this as it is against everything I have ever heard and I have sources close to the Bucks. Link - ( New Window )

This guy is a troll. Not a real reporter and based on what I saw him tweeting earlier today, isn’t intending to be taken seriously.

i mean this is the perfect time of year to throw out a Giannis to NY rumor. Or really anyone to NY rumor.

Ive said all along i wont be upset with whoever they pick, if its Vassell then i hope he can be a bit more on offense then just a shooter. Im going to at least give this FO a draft and offseason before i start trashing them, lol

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I hesitate to even share this as it is against everything I have ever heard and I have sources close to the Bucks. Link - ( New Window )

The guy is a troll, used to have a different account, just makes up fake stuff to rile up Knicks fans

worked out Devin Vassell and Kira, but they weren't able to work out Hayes, but they tried to get something scheduled. Wonder if that sways them in either direction.

Couldn't find a full list but I also believe I read Nesmith and Okoro got workouts. They only can do 10 this year so it's limited.

I’m not sure about Nesmith but I believe they haven’t worked out Okoro, just did a Zoom interview.

for Bledsoe and Hill plus “draft compensation.”

steep price. Especially if Giannis walks...

ptsd just hearing about it as a net fan.

Giannis is holding them hostage right now, as all star players do.

the Rockets need a helluva lot more for Harden.

Bogdonavic sign and trade to bucks as well

would be a Knick right now? Gotta give Rose at least some credit for holding off Dolan who is probably dying to make a splash in this splashy market

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would be a Knick right now? Gotta give Rose at least some credit for holding off Dolan who is probably dying to make a splash in this splashy market

I think previous front offices would have given up mutiple 1st rounders already..

The covington trade does make it seem like the Rockets see the writing on the wall

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is he a better player then Bledsoe, sure, but is he so much better he is worth giving up 3 firsts for?


Love that trade for POR. Covington fits perfectly with that team

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is he a better player then Bledsoe, sure, but is he so much better he is worth giving up 3 firsts for? Love that trade for POR. Covington fits perfectly with that team

Opens the door for Melo to come to the knicks hahaha..

Also opens the door for the Rockets to gice a first to the Knicks in the Westbrook trade

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gotta give the Knicks credit for doing this for many years before it became trendy...lol.

Price for Jrue. He has 1 more year, followed by a player option that he’ll probably decline. I wouldn’t have done that price for Jrue, but would have been the perfect PG to acquire if the price was affordable. 3 firsts plus Bledsoe and Hill is nuts. Jrue is better than Bledsoe but not 3 firsts worthy better.

But that price is insane. Especially if Giannis bolts and Jrue opts out. That team could crater in a hurry and some of those picks can be lottery picks. The Bucks are going all in for the next 2 seasons.

I think you gotta wait and see the protections on the firsts. Like guaranteed dollars in NFL contracts.

What a great trade for New Orleans. Holiday is really good but that is a lot to give up. Add in the Bogdanvic deal and the Bucks are giving up a ton. Maybe this is a precursor to Giannis signing the super max? But he doesn't make any sense for him to do that- might as well just ride it out until free agency.

I wonder if New Orleans tries to get involved in the Harden talks. They could easily trounce the BKN offer. I don't really see any reason why Houston would take the Nets offer unless they are getting about 5 future 1sts along with those players...

spoke to a writer, majority of the Knicks chatter has been moving up and/or down in the draft and those talks are active (both ways).

to really like Toppin, but if they're moving up it seems likely to go after LaMelo.

I also wonder if they're trying to move up from 27 to like 15 to try to get whoever of Okoro/Kira/Vassell/Hayes falls.

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to really like Toppin, but if they're moving up it seems likely to go after LaMelo. I also wonder if they're trying to move up from 27 to like 15 to try to get whoever of Okoro/Kira/Vassell/Hayes falls.

If they move up from 27, dont rule out RJ Hampton

Jonathan Wasserman
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Text from exec with a lotto pick: "I'd be scared to death to have the #1 pick."

Tough to picture anyone motivated to trade up to #1, except for maybe Charlotte

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What a great trade for New Orleans. Holiday is really good but that is a lot to give up. Add in the Bogdanvic deal and the Bucks are giving up a ton. Maybe this is a precursor to Giannis signing the super max? But he doesn't make any sense for him to do that- might as well just ride it out until free agency. I wonder if New Orleans tries to get involved in the Harden talks. They could easily trounce the BKN offer. I don't really see any reason why Houston would take the Nets offer unless they are getting about 5 future 1sts along with those players...

5 first round picks plus those players is probably the bare minimum. LAC traded 5 firsts and 2 pick swaps for Paul George and that was in addition to SGA and Gallinari. SGA was/is a better asset than any of the players the Nets would be sending.

To move from 27-15 range? 27, 38 and a player? Or more? I do wonder what they do end up doing. It’ll definitely be fun but hope they don’t give the world for Westbrook and that $.

Covington is a nice player, and this is a weak draft but 2 1sts (including 16th overall)... Houston did well

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Here is the pick breakdown on the Jrue Holiday trade:

New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

Must be pretty nice to trade picks 4+ years down the road when it will probably be someone else's problem.

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BobbyMarks42's avatar Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42 Here is the pick breakdown on the Jrue Holiday trade: New Orleans receives 2020 1st (via IND) 2024 right to swap 2025 1st unprotected 2026 right to swap 2027 1st unprotected

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Covington is a nice player, and this is a weak draft but 2 1sts (including 16th overall)... Houston did well

I don't get this for Houston. They're trying to win now so they downgrade for two late picks?

Williams now rumored to go as high as 4 wow.

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In comment 15048836 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Covington is a nice player, and this is a weak draft but 2 1sts (including 16th overall)... Houston did well I don't get this for Houston. They're trying to win now so they downgrade for two late picks?

I think this signals they are shopping westbrook and Harden, Westbrook we knew, but Harden is gone..

Id argue Covington was their 3rd best player, between him and Tucker

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So now we have a possible Patrick Williams promise on top of the Bulls not extending a QO to Kris Dunn, which would make you think they're targeting a ball handler.

So who the hell knows what's up.

In comment 15048849 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 15048843 Jon in NYC said: Quote: In comment 15048836 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Covington is a nice player, and this is a weak draft but 2 1sts (including 16th overall)... Houston did well I don't get this for Houston. They're trying to win now so they downgrade for two late picks? I think this signals they are shopping westbrook and Harden, Westbrook we knew, but Harden is gone.. Id argue Covington was their 3rd best player, between him and Tucker

Pretty sure this just confirms they're rebuilding.

Covington is a GREAT defender and role player. He's not a lockdown defender who can shut individuals down, but he's incredible at team defense. Really enjoyed watching him in Houston. He's a great get by the Blazers. The Blazers should look into flipping CJ McCollum for a more well-rounded two way player and they could be contenders.

I wonder if that bum Tilman Fertitta has anything to say about this whenever he goes on CNBC to whine about his businesses again. Fuck the NBA for letting him be an owner.

they plan to use those picks in another deal to appease Harden. If there is truly zero interest around the league in Westbrook, keeping both and trying to improve in some way elsewhere wouldn’t be the worst idea. Of course they could also be intending to use them to make it possible to move Westbrook.

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Smoke with Patrick Williams getting out of hand.

Teams talking about Chicago eyeing Williams at 4, Pistons possibly making a promise at 7. Though still not sold Detroit passes on Haliburton if he's there. Okongwu going top 6 pushes someone down the board.