Rumor that seems reliable: OKC to send Dennis Schroeder to LAL for Danny Green's corpse and the 28th overall pick.
One would assume that this means Rajon Rondo (FA) will not return. Note that he went to UK and you'll see a pronounced roster shift (or assumption of a shift) to it being UK strong.
Rumor that seems unreliable: James Harden to Nets for Lavert, Dinwiddie, Allen and perhaps draft compensation.
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Smoke with Patrick Williams getting out of hand.
Teams talking about Chicago eyeing Williams at 4, Pistons possibly making a promise at 7. Though still not sold Detroit passes on Haliburton if he's there. Okongwu going top 6 pushes someone down the board.
So guys who very well could be off the board:
1) Lamelo
2) Edwards
3) Pat Williams
4) Tyrese Haliburton
5) Okongwu
So one of Wiseman, Avdija and Toppin would fall to us
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Smoke with Patrick Williams getting out of hand.
Teams talking about Chicago eyeing Williams at 4, Pistons possibly making a promise at 7. Though still not sold Detroit passes on Haliburton if he's there. Okongwu going top 6 pushes someone down the board.
So guys who very well could be off the board:
1) Lamelo
2) Edwards
3) Pat Williams
4) Tyrese Haliburton
5) Okongwu
So one of Wiseman, Avdija and Toppin would fall to us
Wiseman isn't falling out of the top 3, but I could see Avidja and Toppin dropping to 8.
they had to of gotten a guarantee from Giannis before doing this deal
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Smoke with Patrick Williams getting out of hand.
Teams talking about Chicago eyeing Williams at 4, Pistons possibly making a promise at 7. Though still not sold Detroit passes on Haliburton if he's there. Okongwu going top 6 pushes someone down the board.
So guys who very well could be off the board:
1) Lamelo
2) Edwards
3) Pat Williams
4) Tyrese Haliburton
5) Okongwu
So one of Wiseman, Avdija and Toppin would fall to us
Wiseman will go 3 if he is there, Williams 4, toppin 5
I totally agree. I see him and think, if everything hits right he could be Onunoby in 3-4 years. I mean, Onunoby is a nice role player and the kind of guy that is en vogue these days, but not the kind of guy I'd draft top 5.
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Might just be which games I saw him in last season, but nothing about him ever really stood out that much to me.
I totally agree. I see him and think, if everything hits right he could be Onunoby in 3-4 years. I mean, Onunoby is a nice role player and the kind of guy that is en vogue these days, but not the kind of guy I'd draft top 5.
IDK, OG is a lockdown defender. He's one of the best defensive players in the NBA.
Giannis
Middleton
Holiday
Bodganovic
Robin or Brook Lopez
Is that improved? Definitely and Bledsoe had to go given his playoff struggles. But to me they are paying a massive amount between Dante, the picks and the swaps while taking on a huge risk.
I wonder if they pursued Chris Paul. Definitely older and probably bigger injury risk, but I think hes better and could help them more. Would have cost less too. I'm also curious if Bledsoe becomes available on the cheap. Wouldn't mind the Knicks pursuing him.
Golden State Warriors get: Mitchell Robinson and No. 8 pick in 2020
New York Knicks get: No. 2 pick in 2020
Houston Rockets get: Jarrett Allen, Spencer Dinwiddie, Rodions Kurucs, Caris LeVert, No. 19 pick in 2020, 2021 swap, 2024 first-round pick, 2025 swap
Brooklyn Nets get: James Harden, Ben McLemore
Some absurd trades on here but these 2 jumped out. Unless the Knicks are truly in love with a guy at 2, why on earth are they doing this trade? Ja Morant isn't exactly sitting at 2nd overall..
And why would Houston do this move? I know Levert and others are involved, but your telling me the Rockets can only get a late 2020 1st and a 2024 1st for Harden? Come on.
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Golden State Warriors get: Mitchell Robinson and No. 8 pick in 2020
New York Knicks get: No. 2 pick in 2020
Houston Rockets get: Jarrett Allen, Spencer Dinwiddie, Rodions Kurucs, Caris LeVert, No. 19 pick in 2020, 2021 swap, 2024 first-round pick, 2025 swap
Brooklyn Nets get: James Harden, Ben McLemore
Some absurd trades on here but these 2 jumped out. Unless the Knicks are truly in love with a guy at 2, why on earth are they doing this trade? Ja Morant isn't exactly sitting at 2nd overall..
And why would Houston do this move? I know Levert and others are involved, but your telling me the Rockets can only get a late 2020 1st and a 2024 1st for Harden? Come on. ESPN - ( New Window )
If NYK are in love with Wiseman over Robinson, it could make sense. Also supposedly there were issues with Robinson and contract? Anthony Edwards can be very good, but this type of trade should only be done if it’s a sure PG that NYK have been needing for years. They still have a late first, maybe can move that with someone else for a mid first and get someone else in that 12-17 range?
If you told me that you want to trade Mitch+ (some stuff not including #8) to acquire the #2, that could make some sense.
I don't know if he ever really got healthy. Also, might be first time jitters.
It's very risky but if there's strong conviction then I'd rather them go after the guy they want rather than sit there and draft Jordan Hill.
I'm just really glad that they are for once not making big moves just for the sake of them.
I kinda feel like the Hornets will probably be more desperate than the Knicks for Westbrook. We'll see.
Agreed. No one on this roster is even close to untouchable, but thats too much to give up to get to 2.
I'm still hoping the Knicks draft Hayes. I wonder if he's there at 6 if there is a trade up with Atlanta as a possibility.
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that I would want to give up Robinson to move up for. It's just not an impressive draft class.
Agreed. No one on this roster is even close to untouchable, but thats too much to give up to get to 2.
I'm still hoping the Knicks draft Hayes. I wonder if he's there at 6 if there is a trade up with Atlanta as a possibility.
Yeah I'm on the Hayesbbandwagon or Lewis. This team so desperately needs a lead guard. I'm not doubting the talent of Okuru but how do you stick another wing guy next to when they both can't shoot past 10-15 feet? Cassel can shoot, I just didn't see him that much so I can't really comment as much but I just think this team needs a lead guard or a 2 guard that is a bonafide NBA 3 point marksman and can eventually score about 20 a night.
Very very doubtful, but have to hope Dallas falls back next year out of the playoffs and into the lottery. Long shot though.
Would also love the Knicks to trade back or even out of the 8th spot if it got them a another pick possibly in the lottery next year.
Played 22 minutes as a freshman. Shooting was 46/32/84. Averaged a steal and a block a game. It's a pretty weak draft, and could be seen as an upside play. Bulls are rumored to love him. They do have Karnisovas now, who was instrumental in bringing in Jokic, Murray, and Porter.
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that I would want to give up Robinson to move up for. It's just not an impressive draft class.
Agreed. No one on this roster is even close to untouchable, but thats too much to give up to get to 2.
I'm still hoping the Knicks draft Hayes. I wonder if he's there at 6 if there is a trade up with Atlanta as a possibility.
Yeah I'm on the Hayesbbandwagon or Lewis. This team so desperately needs a lead guard. I'm not doubting the talent of Okuru but how do you stick another wing guy next to when they both can't shoot past 10-15 feet? Cassel can shoot, I just didn't see him that much so I can't really comment as much but I just think this team needs a lead guard or a 2 guard that is a bonafide NBA 3 point marksman and can eventually score about 20 a night.
Meant to say next to RJ...and meant Vassel not Cassel
Two reasons:
1 there are no projections for there being superstars at the top of this draft
2 When you draft guys that are busts (to this point) like Ntilikina and Knox and have nothing else positive going on, you need to establish a foundation.
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Draft rumor making the rounds: Speculation that Isaiah Joe has a promise from the 76ers, either at 21 or 34.
I don't know who that is but this would be quite a fast turnaround from Woj saying the Rockets and Nets hadn't had any serious discussions as recent as this morning.
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Rockets and Nets have verbal agreement on a Harden deal
I don't know who that is but this would be quite a fast turnaround from Woj saying the Rockets and Nets hadn't had any serious discussions as recent as this morning.
he runs netsdaily i think
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Gordon Hayward and the Celtics are working to extend the deadline on Hayward to decide on his $34.2 million player option for the 2020-21 season from today at 5 p.m. to Thursday afternoon, league sources tell ESPN.
depth would be gutted. levert and allen reaching potential with healthy kd and kyrie and depth would be enough to compete for the next 5 yrs.
now they still would need health, but have no depth, and the style of play- ugh painful.
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Gordon Hayward and the Celtics are working to extend the deadline on Hayward to decide on his $34.2 million player option for the 2020-21 season from today at 5 p.m. to Thursday afternoon, league sources tell ESPN.
So if Hayward signs it before the draft, in theory they could trade him at the draft. Are they possibly looking to extend him to say 3 years at $75M to save $9M this year? What could it mean?
depth would be gutted. levert and allen reaching potential with healthy kd and kyrie and depth would be enough to compete for the next 5 yrs.
now they still would need health, but have no depth, and the style of play- ugh painful.
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It seems like "Harden to the Nets" is really picking up steam these last couple of hours. Ugh, I was hoping he would go to the Sixers but there are reports Fertitta's petty ass doesn't want to give him to Morey at all so he'll take a lesser deal with the Nets.
Considering what Jrue Holiday got, the Rockets better receive every other Nets first round pick for the rest of the decade. Dinwiddie and Levert are OK but nothing special.
It's going to be fascinating to see Kyrie and Harden play together. Especially if Durant doesn't get back to the level he was at before the injury. That team is going to have explosive potential, both good and bad. IMO, if this move goes down then I think Ibaka will be coming to Brooklyn as well which would be big.