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joeinpa : 11/16/2020 9:58 am
Feels pretty good this morning, doesn’t it.

Now we can be engaged in meaningful games, because we believe 7-9 or even 6-10 division title is a significant step forward, not something to be scoffed at or dismissed.

Wasn’t it rewarding to have our faith in Jones rewarded, for at least this week. Maybe there s actually a chance he s not the worst quarterback in the NFL, or at best a backup. Maybe he s not a bust at #6, maybe even he is not dwarfed by the other young guns like Tua, Herbert, Burrow.

Maybe even, he continues to lead the Giants to enough victories that the question of drafting his replacement is mute; that d be nice.

Parcells once said about quarterbacks, you don’t really learn about them until they face adversity; Jones has certainly done that, and at least for this week was a main reason behind the biggest Giants win in many a season.

I ve always felt the narrative against Jones here, was motivated by something other than objective thinking. Maybe it s their dislike of DG, or some misplaced sense of loyalty to Eli

Whatever the reason, there has been a focus only on the negative, while there have also been reasons to be positive over his first 20 games.

His critics won’t admit it, but maybe there is a chance Daniel Jones is the real deal.
I’m an optimist and  
5BowlsSoon : 11/16/2020 10:06 am : link
I think I have tried to remind guys to also remember the great games Jones has had in that first 20 games.

There are only 4 times a rookie has thrown for >300 yards and 4 TD passes in a game. Jones has 3 of those! Are you kidding me! Doesn’t this scream out at you telling you the kid can do it....just be patient, surround him with better coaches and talent, coach him up a bit (hold onto the ball) and have faith in the maturation process.

I know these last two games won’t always happen as good as this but it is clear to me Jones has the necessary mental skills to be successful in this league. He has ice in his veins.....doesn’t seem to let pressure affect him, especially from the media and fans.

God bless Joe Judge and the staff he has put together here. I can finally see the light through all the dark clouds.
I don’t care if the Giants go 6-10  
Jay on the Island : 11/16/2020 10:07 am : link
As long as they win the division I am happy. The reason why it provides playoff experience for Jones and the young team. This will be valuable experience next season and in the future.

Yesterday wasn't the first time Jones was the best  
jsuds : 11/16/2020 10:14 am : link
player on the field. He looks like the real deal. I love when he audibles "Eli".
Good post Joe...  
KingBlue : 11/16/2020 10:26 am : link
I am also optimistic. We are building and improving week by week. Patience is not prevalent on BBI. Our young QB had a heck of a game yesterday. This team is fun to watch and root for.

this game feels good Joe but what's even better  
Eric on Li : 11/16/2020 10:32 am : link
is realizing that they were 1 play away from feeling this way in week's 2, 4, 5, 7, 8 as well.

In the context of Jones' progression (and the entire OL) I think it's likely a few of those outcomes would be different if those games were played now.

And what's even better than that is thinking about how things will look whenever Barkley gets back, and ideally with another downfield weapon like Galloday or JaMarr Chase on the field. Things are finally looking up.
It’s moot  
cjac : 11/16/2020 10:34 am : link
Not mute
RE: It’s moot  
joeinpa : 11/16/2020 10:44 am : link
In comment 15047296 cjac said:
Quote:
Not mute


Thanks, stupid miss take on my part. Can’t even blame it on auto correct.

“Moot”
Aside from that  
cjac : 11/16/2020 10:49 am : link
I feel very optimistic about the future for the first time in a long time. And it’s all due to the coaching IMO
QBs are going to look bad at times...  
EricJ : 11/16/2020 10:54 am : link
and early in Eli's career (and also Simms), they both had many games where you would question whether he had a future here as the starter.
What team  
AnnapolisMike : 11/16/2020 1:06 pm : link
Wants to play these Giants moving forward? This is not the same team that started the season. They will be a tough out for anyone...and that includes the Ravens (who are hurting) and Seattle.
I don't care if they win the division as long as they beat Dallas in  
Dinger : 11/16/2020 1:09 pm : link
January. I'd LIKE them to beat Cincy and maybe the Browns, but the rest of the teams we play have extremely mobile QBs and will make it tough on a defense lacking talent at DE and CB. Compete in those games and win the three I mention and its a season most on here would have predicted. Which considering where we looked like we were heading for a 2 win season is a step in the right direction.
Let’s project a little, just for fun  
mfsd : 11/16/2020 1:23 pm : link
6 games left, I’d say 3 are winnable (Bengals, Browns, Cowboys) and 3 are very tough (Seahawks, Cardinals, Ravens)

Realistically, we probably go 2-1 in the winnable game and 0-3 in the tough ones, finishing 5-11

Optimistically, we run the table with Bengals, Browns, Cowboys, and steal one of the tough ones. Any given Sunday. That would mean 7-9, and likely a division title

If this team keeps coming together (and keeps getting guys healthy without any new big injuries), the optimistic scenario isn’t beyond the realm

I’d agree that if we beat Dallas week 17, the season ends happy
Cautiously optimistic here  
lax counsel : 11/16/2020 2:58 pm : link
He has physical talent, but his play in the pocket still needs to improve. When I say that, I mean navigating the pocket as well as as some of the other top qbs we see - he definitely outplayed wentz yesterday, but wentz also moved very well in and around the pocket to extend drives through the air. There are still times where he looks uncomfortable back there. I am willing to bet that improves as the season trends on, and if he can master that, I think he has top 10 qb potential.

Still a long way to go.
Quote from OP  
LBH15 : 11/16/2020 4:26 pm : link
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I've always felt the narrative against Jones here, was motivated by something other than objective thinking. Maybe it s their dislike of DG, or some misplaced sense of loyalty to Eli.


Is that objective thinking you are searching for have anything to do with poor pocket awareness and turning the ball over at alarming rate in his first 20 games?

Nah, you're probably right. It's because we all miss Eli.
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