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Bradberry is the most talented corner on the Giants

ajr2456 : 11/16/2020 10:18 am
Since who?

I think he’s better than Webster and Jenkins at their best.
Best since mark collins  
hassan : 11/16/2020 10:25 am : link
To these eyes. Doesn’t have Sehorn big plays but covers better.
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Danny Kanell : 11/16/2020 10:25 am : link
I think people forget how good Jenkins was in 2016.
I don't know that we've ever had a CB  
NorthCountryGiantsFan : 11/16/2020 10:26 am : link
with his pure awareness skills...he knows how to use his body and his hands better than any Giants CB I can think of...He is almost never out of position and even when you think he's been burned he somehow gets a hand into the right spot and knocks the ball loose...I love this guy, like a silent assassin, doesn't run his mouth, let's his play speak for him
He is not a Pro Bowler  
Capt. Don : 11/16/2020 10:26 am : link
He is an All Pro.

The play he made yesterday on the pick play was outrageous.
Yes, he is our best CB  
lugnut : 11/16/2020 10:28 am : link
I saw a very telling statement on BBI last week, that DG has had an entire draft of CBs in his few years here -- like, literally from Rd 1 (or very high Rd 2?) -- D. Baker -- down through Rd 7 and every tier in between -- and we have exactly nothing to show for it. Our one good CB was a known commodity that we shelled out $$ in FA. I do not want DG drafting CBs for us anymore -- or maybe any position at all.
I still think DRC  
CMicks3110 : 11/16/2020 10:29 am : link
was among the very best.
RE: I still think DRC  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/16/2020 10:31 am : link
In comment 15047280 CMicks3110 said:
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was among the very best.


He absolutely was. When he was on teams didn't even throw at him. It's surprising that the Eagles challenged Bradbury this much.
Definitely  
Spider43 : 11/16/2020 10:33 am : link
In the positive column for Getts.
RE: Yes, he is our best CB  
wigs in nyc : 11/16/2020 10:36 am : link
In comment 15047276 lugnut said:
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I saw a very telling statement on BBI last week, that DG has had an entire draft of CBs in his few years here -- like, literally from Rd 1 (or very high Rd 2?) -- D. Baker -- down through Rd 7 and every tier in between -- and we have exactly nothing to show for it. Our one good CB was a known commodity that we shelled out $$ in FA. I do not want DG drafting CBs for us anymore -- or maybe any position at all.


Not only is this incorrect, it’s also a pretty lazy take. Here are the CB’s Gettleman’s drafted for us over 3-years, by round.

Round 1: Baker is probably on his way to jail. Nothing to do with talent.
Round 3: Beal opted out this year. Nothing to do with talent.
Round 4: Julian Love is playing a safety role, fairly well.
Round 4: Darnay Holmes, has played well for a small nickel corner pressed into other duty
Round 6: Corey Ballantine, recently released.

It’s very unfortunate, but only Ballantine had anything to do with talent, while the needle is pointing up on both Love ans Holmes. Maybe Beal contributes next year.
He is getting paid as a top 10 corner in the League  
HomerJones45 : 11/16/2020 10:38 am : link
he better be the most talented
ummm..  
NorthCountryGiantsFan : 11/16/2020 10:39 am : link
Gettleman drafted Bradberry with Carolina in 2016
Bradberry is a top three corner..  
bw in dc : 11/16/2020 10:40 am : link
in the NFL. And arguably in the discussion for the best all-around corner.

I'd be inclined to say he's the most talented corner I have ever seen in a Giants uniform. I was a young kid in the '80s and loved Mark Collins for his all-around skills. He was tremendous in run support. But Bradberry has everything.
Was there not much of a market  
crick n NC : 11/16/2020 10:42 am : link
For Bradberry? I can't recall. What an addition at this point.
RE: Was there not much of a market  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/16/2020 10:47 am : link
In comment 15047320 crick n NC said:
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For Bradberry? I can't recall. What an addition at this point.


This is a career-high season for him.
Corey Webster  
mittenedman : 11/16/2020 10:51 am : link
was a shutdown CB for a few years too. Bradberry is very similar to Webster IMO.
when DRC  
Enzo : 11/16/2020 10:52 am : link
had his head screwed on straight he may have been the best guy we've had in a long time. Just an athletic freak.
RE: RE: Was there not much of a market  
crick n NC : 11/16/2020 10:54 am : link
In comment 15047342 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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For Bradberry? I can't recall. What an addition at this point.



This is a career-high season for him.


Then I am guessing it all clicked for Bradberry late in his panther career, so perhaps they weren't sure about signing him for his demands. Of course, I should also consider how different players can look in different systems.
Bradberry's mix of smarts, speed, hand-eye coordination, timing  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/16/2020 12:19 pm : link
...and leaping ability is simply amazing. I think he's better than Mark Collins or Corey Webster.
RE: He is not a Pro Bowler  
FranknWeezer : 11/16/2020 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15047270 Capt. Don said:
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He is an All Pro.

The play he made yesterday on the pick play was outrageous.


That was an insane recovery by Bradberry there.
RE: .  
UConn4523 : 11/16/2020 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15047265 Danny Kanell said:
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I think people forget how good Jenkins was in 2016.


I remember it vividly. Bradberry just feels different. His ability to play the ball without looking at it is fucking nuts.

Jenkins was the benefit of a lot of help both in the secondary and pass rush. We saw him after 2016 too and there were plenty of bad games.
Did anyone notice  
crick n NC : 11/16/2020 12:43 pm : link
Darnay Holmes and Bradberry execute perfectly in the end zone when the Eagles ran two receivers crisscross? I believe it was Holmes and Bradberry. The Eagles are hoping for just the slightest separation from a hesitant db or a db not correctly passing his receiver to his help. Great execution and communication with those guys.
Bradberry does a lot of illegal things  
Daniel in MI : 11/16/2020 3:22 pm : link
Or, at least things I’ve been led to believe were illegal.

1) he gets very close to the man he’s covering. Like right in his hip pocket. That seems rude and illegal.

2) when the ball is in the air, several times I’ve seen him close the distance between himself and the WT and bat the ball down. Like to the ground! The other guy was trying to catch that, so again, rude! Probably not fair.

3) He sometimes gets in the way of a pass and steals it from the WR. Like, he just TAKES it for himself. Selfish and rude!

I don’t think we want someone of this character on the team. Sends a bad message to children.

Back up, keep your social distance, let them catch it. and miss tackles like a real Giants DB!
I have to admit  
.McL. : 11/16/2020 3:47 pm : link
I knew Bradbury, but I didn't realize he was this good.

Certainly in the discussion for the best during the Super Bowl era...

We'd could get Fiddy's opinion going back the the Neolithic period. But nobody is around anymore from the Paleolithic! ;)
RE: Bradberry does a lot of illegal things  
mfsd : 11/16/2020 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15048045 Daniel in MI said:
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Or, at least things I’ve been led to believe were illegal.

1) he gets very close to the man he’s covering. Like right in his hip pocket. That seems rude and illegal.

2) when the ball is in the air, several times I’ve seen him close the distance between himself and the WT and bat the ball down. Like to the ground! The other guy was trying to catch that, so again, rude! Probably not fair.

3) He sometimes gets in the way of a pass and steals it from the WR. Like, he just TAKES it for himself. Selfish and rude!

I don’t think we want someone of this character on the team. Sends a bad message to children.

Back up, keep your social distance, let them catch it. and miss tackles like a real Giants DB!


I like your work here
Mark Haynes  
gary_from_chester : 11/16/2020 6:53 pm : link
Was pretty good. I’ll go with Mark Collins though as the best I’ve seen in blue.
I think he's better  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 11/16/2020 8:18 pm : link
than Jenkins and Webster too. He def reminds me of Webster a little bit. Jenkins was a little more versatile and you could put him in different positions. But Jenkins in 2016 had a really talented defensive roster surrounding him. Collins and DRC in the secondary + a really strong DL led by Harrison/JPP/Vernon/Hankins. That defense finished 2nd in the league in PPG allowed. Jenkins was a key player and probably our best DB in hindsight (although most posters here were in love with Collins at the time), but that loaded defense really let us get the best out of his skillset. Bradberry isn't quite as versatile or exciting as Jenkins, but I think he's just a better player in coverage. He's just always in such good position out there. And he isn't benefitting from the same kind of loaded defense that Jenkins had.
I think Jenkins was more talented.  
Section331 : 11/17/2020 9:15 am : link
When he wanted to be, Jackrabbit was as good as anyone in the league. However, he took too many games off, especially if the team wasn't playing well.

Bradbury plays hard all the time. His consistency is what makes him so good.
RE: Mark Haynes  
EricJ : 11/17/2020 9:21 am : link
In comment 15048317 gary_from_chester said:
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Was pretty good. I’ll go with Mark Collins though as the best I’ve seen in blue.


yeah.. these two were the best for sure.
Bradberry has been just what the doctor ordered. He is playing  
LBH15 : 11/17/2020 9:26 am : link
consistently good every single game. A bit shocking teams are still going at him in crucial spots, especially with the other players we have at CB.

Kudos to Gettleman on this signing for certain.
Jenkins when he decided he  
section125 : 11/17/2020 9:30 am : link
was playing that day, was a talented player. Problem is he is a moody guy on the field and often made business decisions when faking a tackle. Jenkins would give up on plays. Have you ever observed Bradberry give up on a play or shy from contact.
Jenkins is faster. But as good as he was, he may play well in 10 games and then not stay focused in the other 6. That was why he was let go from his 1st team - inconsistent play.
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