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NFT: Theo Epstein leaving the Cubs

DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:07 pm
Jordan Bastian
@MLBastian
BREAKING: Cubs announced that Theo Epstein will be stepping down from his role as president of baseball operations, beginning Friday. GM Jed Hoyer will move into that role as part of the transition.

Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts and Epstein are set to meet with media later today.
I know  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2020 12:08 pm : link
a team with a possible vacancy.
Theo  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:09 pm : link
would almost certainly need to be promised taking over for Sandy when Sandy steps away otherwise it's hard to see him wanting the job. The Phillies are another likely destination.
Theo  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:11 pm : link
has informed Ricketts he will be sitting out the 2021 season. Sounds like that dream is over before it started.
Theo  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:14 pm : link
is under contract with the Cubs, he intends to sit out and take a breather. Would have been a great hire.
Yeah  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:18 pm : link
it's being confirmed he told the Cubs he wants some time off. He remains under contract for the 2021 season and is not allowed to take another job without the Cubs receiving compensation (should he change his mind).
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DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:23 pm : link
Now that the Theo dream appears dead... it DOES seem more likely than not that @Cubs deal off their veterans. Darvish, Contreras and Hendricks all would make me happy #Mets
Theo  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2020 12:25 pm : link
has a spot in Cooperstown IMO, being the GM/leader when the Red Sox and Cubs ended historic title droughts.

Adding the Mets to the list would get him his own Cooperstown wing.
Rosenthal  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:29 pm : link
confirming, Theo to take the year off. He almost took this year off, agreed to stay on and then changed his mind. He sounds burnt out. More significant is the likelihood that Hoyer starts a true rebuild which would make players like @faridyu
, Contreras and Hendriks prime trade targets for @Mets
#Mets
did he wear a gorilla suit to the presser?  
Victor in CT : 11/17/2020 12:34 pm : link
like he did in Boston
Rosenthal  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:36 pm : link
says Theo wants to eventually join an ownership group.
RE: did he wear a gorilla suit to the presser?  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2020 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15048985 Victor in CT said:
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like he did in Boston


I thought he wore that to escape the Fenway press, no?
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DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:36 pm : link
Joel Sherman
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In a letter he addressed to “Cubs Friends,” Epstein indicated he wants to take this summer off with family and workig for non-profits, adding, "I do plan on having a third chapter leading a baseball organization someday, though I do not expect it to be next year."
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DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:37 pm : link
Darvish final 13 starts of 2019 2.76 era, 16.86 K/9, Darvish 2020 2.01 era 11 K/9. Get Darvish. Thank You
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DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 12:42 pm : link
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Joe DeMayo
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Besides him saying he’s taking the year off, Theo is under contract to the Cubs for 2021

If he resigns, that doesn’t negate that. He’d have to be fired to be available without the Cubs permission
he said the same thing about "wanting to work for a non-profit"  
markky : 11/17/2020 1:32 pm : link
when he left Boston. He didn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working next year.
Theo's always seemed kind of disingenuous to me  
Greg from LI : 11/17/2020 1:34 pm : link
But then I have an ingrained dislike of him
One helluva executive.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/17/2020 1:37 pm : link
Ended two 'curses'.
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DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 1:47 pm : link
Bruce Levine
@MLBBruceLevine
According to league sources the Phildelphia Phillies will come after Theo Epstein aggressively regardless of his desire to take a year off.
RE: he said the same thing about  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2020 1:49 pm : link
In comment 15049057 markky said:
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when he left Boston. He didn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working next year.


I think you are confusing a couple things with Theo.

1. He resigned from the Red Sox GM job in 2005 - for financial reasons. He may have said he wanted to work for a non-profit at the time, but it was financially motivated. The Red Sox low-balled him. He resigned on halloween night (and left in the gorilla suit - as referenced above). He was re-hired 3 months later as GM and EVP.

2. In 2011, Theo resigned from the Red Sox to become President of the Cubs. There was no false pretense in this transaction and the Cubs compensated the Red Sox for this because Theo had a year left on his deal.

The Cubs sent Chris Carpenter to the Red Sox (I believe) as compensation.
RE: RE: he said the same thing about  
Alan W : 11/17/2020 5:14 pm : link
In comment 15049084 pjcas18 said:
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when he left Boston. He didn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working next year.



I think you are confusing a couple things with Theo.

1. He resigned from the Red Sox GM job in 2005 - for financial reasons. He may have said he wanted to work for a non-profit at the time, but it was financially motivated. The Red Sox low-balled him. He resigned on halloween night (and left in the gorilla suit - as referenced above). He was re-hired 3 months later as GM and EVP.

2. In 2011, Theo resigned from the Red Sox to become President of the Cubs. There was no false pretense in this transaction and the Cubs compensated the Red Sox for this because Theo had a year left on his deal.

The Cubs sent Chris Carpenter to the Red Sox (I believe) as compensation.


Chris Carpenter retired as a Cardinal.
RE: RE: RE: he said the same thing about  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2020 5:19 pm : link
In comment 15049302 Alan W said:
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In comment 15049057 markky said:


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when he left Boston. He didn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working next year.



I think you are confusing a couple things with Theo.

1. He resigned from the Red Sox GM job in 2005 - for financial reasons. He may have said he wanted to work for a non-profit at the time, but it was financially motivated. The Red Sox low-balled him. He resigned on halloween night (and left in the gorilla suit - as referenced above). He was re-hired 3 months later as GM and EVP.

2. In 2011, Theo resigned from the Red Sox to become President of the Cubs. There was no false pretense in this transaction and the Cubs compensated the Red Sox for this because Theo had a year left on his deal.

The Cubs sent Chris Carpenter to the Red Sox (I believe) as compensation.



Chris Carpenter retired as a Cardinal.


Different Chris Carpenter
David  
DanMetroMan : 11/17/2020 5:45 pm : link
Samson (his own opinion not anything he's heard) predicts Cohen gives Theo part of the team (ownership) and hires Theo that way.
RE: RE: he said the same thing about  
markky : 11/17/2020 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15049084 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15049057 markky said:


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when he left Boston. He didn't. I wouldn't be surprised to see him working next year.



I think you are confusing a couple things with Theo.

1. He resigned from the Red Sox GM job in 2005 - for financial reasons. He may have said he wanted to work for a non-profit at the time, but it was financially motivated. The Red Sox low-balled him. He resigned on halloween night (and left in the gorilla suit - as referenced above). He was re-hired 3 months later as GM and EVP.

2. In 2011, Theo resigned from the Red Sox to become President of the Cubs. There was no false pretense in this transaction and the Cubs compensated the Red Sox for this because Theo had a year left on his deal.

The Cubs sent Chris Carpenter to the Red Sox (I believe) as compensation.


You are correct. I was referring to an interview just after he left in a gorilla suit, prior to being re-hired. I still think "I want to work for a non-profit" is his go-to line. It won't happen.
I recall  
Carson53 : 11/19/2020 1:42 pm : link
hearing what Theo said a few years ago. He said that after about a decade with an organization,
he thinks it's time to move on.
He fell one year short with the Cubbies.
He says he is going to take a year off, he probably will.
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