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NFC Championship Game this Year will be Giants vs.Packers

Ralph.C : 11/18/2020 2:09 am
I was looking at my refrigerator tonight pondering the NFL.

(I have flat magnets on it showing the standings.)

The best teams in the NFC are the Giants, Packers, Cardinals and Rams.
The Giants are the only team in the conference who are trending upward. The rest are either holding steady or on a downward trend. Drew Brees breaking his ribs has pretty much made the Saints a “meh.” Even if he comes back in a few weeks, I just can’t see the Saints winning the conference. Seattle’s defense is horrific regardless of how good Wilson is and I just don’t see any NFC team that scares me. The Packers are the mountain to climb in order to get to the Super Bowl and we can beat them.

Yes. I said Super Bowl.

We have powerful lines on both sides of the ball. We have talent in the offensive skill positions and a terrific secondary. Bradbury is the best corner in the NFC. Peppers is a beast. Love is good. The linebackers are good. Hell, I think Yiadom is being coached up and playing really well.

And the team is getting better and better.

I’m not kidding. I think we are going to win out and enter the playoffs like a steamroller.

One bad loss could end this dream. But I don’t think that loss is coming. I think we’re winning out.

We’ll see.


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Blah blah  
Greg from LI : 11/18/2020 2:26 am : link
Blahblahblah
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MOOPS : 11/18/2020 2:40 am : link
RE: .  
Ralph.C : 11/18/2020 4:01 am : link
In comment 15049486 MOOPS said:
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'Blahblahblah."

As well thought out and written your response to my post is, it still leaves me with questions:

1) Does "Blahblahblah" mean that you have no interest in emotionally investing in the team this year and inherently reject any optimistic hope for them, or that you'd prefer another outcome for the team this season? If so, what should we Giant fans collectively be rooting for if not for an amazing run to the NFC Championship?

2) Do you think the teams sucks and it's hopeless to even dream of something memorable happen and anyone who does is "blah-minded"?

3) Do you actually root for the Giants?

Whatever. I said weeks ago that the team was about to go on a run and I stand by that.

So go watch Redzone and enjoy the blahs of non-investment to this team.
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Ralph.C : 11/18/2020 4:07 am : link
In comment 15049486 MOOPS said:
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Right. I get it. Seeing clear improvement over the last 6 weeks and our well-coached, young talent rounding into form means I'm smoking crack. Ok, great.

Exactly what are the circumstance in which I can have an optimistic evaluation of the team that is not deemed delusional? Please let me know when it's ok. I'll follow your guidelines to the letter.
Sorry . . .  
Ralph.C : 11/18/2020 4:11 am : link
I replied to Greg off of Moops post.

Oops. That's what crack does to you. :)
Way too early  
Dukie Dimes : 11/18/2020 6:33 am : link
Let’s see a win at Seattle and against Arizona first. They are trending upwards, but they are in a big hole right now and still haven’t beaten anyone with a winning record. So you should probably hold on to these thoughts until there’s a lot more justification for them.
Can we wait to see...  
BamaBlue : 11/18/2020 6:46 am : link
the Giants beat someone outside the NFCE? Being optimistic is wonderful, but you have to have some objective evidence. Currently NFCE teams have a grand total of 10 wins; 8 of those wins are against other NFCE teams.
Welp, it is 2020  
Sec 103 : 11/18/2020 7:08 am : link
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RE: RE: .  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/18/2020 7:12 am : link
In comment 15049488 Ralph.C said:
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Exactly what are the circumstance in which I can have an optimistic evaluation of the team that is not deemed delusional? Please let me know when it's ok. I'll follow your guidelines to the letter.

Can we beat a team with a winning record first? Or maybe how about just any team outside of the NFCE? Those don't seem like crazy criteria, do they?

Your premise was flawed from the moment you listed the Giants as one of the four best teams in the NFC in your OP. From that point on, it wasn't optimism, it was fiction.

Let's be honest though, you just wanted to tell us that you keep the NFL standings on your refrigerator in magnet form (although it doesn't sound like you actually list them in the proper order if you have the Giants atop the NFCE currently).
Like the optimism  
mushroom : 11/18/2020 7:12 am : link
Let's dream during the bye. This year has had too many real nightmares.
I’m excited  
gary_from_chester : 11/18/2020 7:13 am : link
About the progress of the team. Well coached. Offensive line developing. D line is solid. DJ playing clean football recently.

You’ve got to slow your roll though. Super Bowl? Let’s beat someone not in the NFCE. Then let’s beat a team with a winning record. Then we can reassess. I think you’re getting a little too far out in front, we still have lots of holes to plug.
Let's fuckin GO Ralph.C!  
mittenedman : 11/18/2020 7:24 am : link
It would be the most improbable Super Bowl run in the history of the NFL.

I've been of the belief that the Giants could sneak into the Playoffs, but ultimately be capped by having no edge rush. But here they are, 7th in the NFL in sacks.

However, they have the look RIGHT NOW of one of those annoying, ugly duckling teams nobody wants to play. A team with a strong running game and a tough D.
RE: Like the optimism  
mfsd : 11/18/2020 7:27 am : link
In comment 15049507 mushroom said:
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Let's dream during the bye. This year has had too many real nightmares.


Well said
If the team keeps  
kes722 : 11/18/2020 7:28 am : link
Progressing at the rate it is. Why would this not be a possibility?

We just kicked the Eagles ass. At no point did we lose control of that game.

I'm a huge Jones fan, if he is getting out of his sophomore slump he is a dangerous man.
I would just like for  
section125 : 11/18/2020 7:28 am : link
them to win the next game. The I would like for them to win a game fairly easily.

Seriously, this team is devoid of sufficient talent to win the division, let alone the NFC. I hope they keep winning and improving. But they are missing play makers on offense and the defense is held together with baling wire and chewing gum.

FWIW, Fox Sports has the Giants up to 20th in their power rankings.
If the team keeps  
kes722 : 11/18/2020 7:28 am : link
Progressing at the rate it is. Why would this not be a possibility?

We just kicked the Eagles ass. At no point did we lose control of that game.

I'm a huge Jones fan, if he is getting out of his sophomore slump he is a dangerous man.
I like the direction..  
Sean : 11/18/2020 7:33 am : link
But this team still has a long way to go. Cincy will be a very tough game after the bye.
Blah blah blah means you're a ridiculous poster  
Greg from LI : 11/18/2020 7:36 am : link
Who spouts a lot of ridiculous things
Will have to win 4 of the last 6  
mattlawson : 11/18/2020 7:39 am : link
If that starts happening - could be right
This just support the idea that  
weeg in the bronx : 11/18/2020 7:48 am : link
Nothing good can be happening at 2:09 AM.
Ralph, I hope you live on the west coast  
Tuckrule : 11/18/2020 7:48 am : link
And even then I’m being nice. If you live on the east coast and posted this at 2:09am I would suggest a hobby or maybe volunteering your time.
Come on people  
ZogZerg : 11/18/2020 8:04 am : link
When the Giants lose, everyone needs to be fired.
When the Giants win 2 games in row, they are going to the Super Bowl.

The swings on this board are ridiculous.
The very good QBs & OCs will take advantage of NYG secondary  
LBH15 : 11/18/2020 8:04 am : link
I would imagine. Quick releases, targeting weaker CBs, isolate Safeties to cover downfield. Brady did some of it but was off that night which helped.

Maybe when Crowder and McKinney get on field that will shore up the pass coverage a bit more, and allow another second for rush to get home. Defense is gaining confidence and it has been a pleasure actually seeing them get off the field more on 3rd down.

Hope they use the bye week productively.
I for one love this  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2020 8:08 am : link
so many miserable fucks, crack a smile once in a while. Christmas is here in 5 weeks, its ok to be jolly!

While I don't share the same optimism as the OP I do love reading it. Playoffs? Why the fuck not?

Best coach in the division and ascending young players. Don't turn the ball over and we will be in every single game.
RE: I for one love this  
RC in MD : 11/18/2020 8:16 am : link
In comment 15049542 UConn4523 said:
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so many miserable fucks, crack a smile once in a while. Christmas is here in 5 weeks, its ok to be jolly!

While I don't share the same optimism as the OP I do love reading it. Playoffs? Why the fuck not?

Best coach in the division and ascending young players. Don't turn the ball over and we will be in every single game.


I agree with you. What's the harm in having a bit of optimism even if it's sort of pie in the sky?

2020 has been miserable enough with so much shit, including the Giants play. So why not seek to have a bit of fun as we approach the end of 2020?
RE: I for one love this  
Chris684 : 11/18/2020 8:19 am : link
In comment 15049542 UConn4523 said:
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so many miserable fucks, crack a smile once in a while. Christmas is here in 5 weeks, its ok to be jolly!

While I don't share the same optimism as the OP I do love reading it. Playoffs? Why the fuck not?

Best coach in the division and ascending young players. Don't turn the ball over and we will be in every single game.


So true.

There is an army of people here who seem to be the defenders of the pessimistic state of mind we must obey or else we are tarred and feathered or called a "pollyanna" lol.

I can't see a deep playoff run at this point but I can see 7-9 or 8-8 and a division title. Why not?

Optimism is good, but over the top  
NBGblue : 11/18/2020 8:20 am : link
optimism is as bad as over the top pessimism. NYG just beat a non-WFT team for the first time in forever. Would you really be surprised if they lost to Cincy? It will be hard enough to get into the playoffs, much less the championship game, so I think, maybe, the bold predictions need to be toned down a little just now, since there's really no solid basis for them.
You son of a bitch.  
darktimes : 11/18/2020 8:24 am : link
I'm in.
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dlauster : 11/18/2020 8:29 am : link
In comment 15049486 MOOPS said:
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Thank you for this!
I like that things are trending up  
Boatie Warrant : 11/18/2020 8:30 am : link
But this is a bridge to far at this point. Can it happen? Sure it can. I just want to see the team continue to improve.
Ralph, I'm all in. I've thought from the beginning we would  
markky : 11/18/2020 8:32 am : link
see in-season improvement the way the Pats improve during the season each year, especially on the OL. It's happening. I think we'll win the division and make some noise. It will take some breaks to go to the big game but it could happen.
I love the optimism  
bigblue5611_2 : 11/18/2020 8:32 am : link
and I'll always look at the glass half full side of things until we're mathematically unlimited.

However, as others have noted, we haven't beaten anyone outside of the NFCE.

On the flip side to the above, the Giants are a handful of plays from being 8-2, and should be 5-5 at the worst. They were a play or two away from beating CHI, LAR, PHI, DAL and TB with PHI and DAL being the should have been wins to be 5-5 right now.

Am I confident in them "making a run"? No, not really. Is it possible? Sure. They play their asses off each and every week, they're getting better, learning from their mistakes and have in all likelihood a great up and coming coach in Judge.
We beat the friggin Eagles for once finally,  
penkap75 : 11/18/2020 8:36 am : link
And now there are posts that we are SB bound. And there are also posts of people worrying about our coordinators being poached. We have yet to beat a team with a winning record.

I'M IN
It’s is strangely enjoyable to feel the  
mfsd : 11/18/2020 8:37 am : link
“We suck” crowd suffering through an extra week of optimism bc of the bye week.

Hang in there guys, I’m sure the Giants will lose a bad one again soon, and you can go right back to starting a zillion ‘I told you so’ threads about how Gettleman sucks, Jones sucks, Mara sucks, etc etc
I’m a firm believer that we end up winning the East at 6-10  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/18/2020 8:45 am : link
And then a 50-50 proposition we win our first playoff game.

Like it or not, refs have cognitive biases too, and there is zero chance we get enough respect from the refs to win games against talented teams unless we dominate start to finish. This team isn’t talented enough yet to do that. Just as excited as Ralph though about the trajectory of this team.
I genuinely don't know why  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2020 8:56 am : link
fans of the same team take issue with fans who want to think we will be good. Its something I'll never be able to understand.

If you got some monetary value from being right about the Giants sucking I'd get it. But unless that's happening what's the issue? Afraid to be let down?
Listen, no good posting takes place after midnight.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2020 8:58 am : link
We have played well of late, but let's remember we're 3-7. We got a long, long way to go. Let's finish strong & be in the hunt in '21.
Let's keep the streak going!  
Route 9 : 11/18/2020 9:02 am : link
7 in a row to finish the regular season. 4 in a row in the playoffs.

Do it for Ralph C. Let's do this.
Pump the brakes  
rsjem1979 : 11/18/2020 9:03 am : link
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"The best teams in the NFC are the Giants, Packers, Cardinals and Rams"


I understand optimism, but this list is laughable, bordering on insane. The Bucs are 7-3 and have already beaten the (3-7) Giants. The Seahawks are struggling, but they'll be favored against the Giants in a few weeks. The Saints, even without Drew Brees for a few weeks, are better.

The Giants are 3-7 for a reason. The Giants have zero wins outside the NFC East, which is the worst division in football.
Ralph  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:05 am : link
is the most delusional poster on here for quite awhile. Although it's nice to hear about his magnets on his refrigerator of the NFL standings. It's right next to his 5th place ribbon and coloring pictures he put on the fridge.
RE: Pump the brakes  
mfsd : 11/18/2020 9:11 am : link
In comment 15049591 rsjem1979 said:
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"The best teams in the NFC are the Giants, Packers, Cardinals and Rams"



I understand optimism, but this list is laughable, bordering on insane. The Bucs are 7-3 and have already beaten the (3-7) Giants. The Seahawks are struggling, but they'll be favored against the Giants in a few weeks. The Saints, even without Drew Brees for a few weeks, are better.

The Giants are 3-7 for a reason. The Giants have zero wins outside the NFC East, which is the worst division in football.


Yes we know. And it’s kinda sad that a regular season win over the Eagles feels like winning a Super Bowl in a lot of ways. Sign of how bad this team has been for several years.

But it’s fun to enjoy it and be a little over the top with the optimism. I’m sure we’ll crash back to earth soon enough
RE: I genuinely don't know why  
Greg from LI : 11/18/2020 9:19 am : link
In comment 15049582 UConn4523 said:
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fans of the same team take issue with fans who want to think we will be good. Its something I'll never be able to understand.

If you got some monetary value from being right about the Giants sucking I'd get it. But unless that's happening what's the issue? Afraid to be let down?


I like to deal in reality. Optimism is one thing. Blithely asserting that a 3-7 team that hasn't beaten a team outside of its own rancid division is far beyond mere optimism. It's pure delusion.
I like the optimism but...  
gmen4ever : 11/18/2020 9:19 am : link
1. I don't think we're in the top 4 in the NFC. Maybe top 8-10?
2. OUr remaining schedule is tough, really tough! I hope you're right but I do not see us winning out.
3. The teams we beat are not good. Granted we should have won at least 2-3 other games we lost, maybe we win those close ones going forward.

I appreciate the thoughts and input AND hope you're right. But I do not see us in the NFCC game this year.
It’s Not That We Hate Optimists  
Jim in Tampa : 11/18/2020 9:22 am : link
The problem (for some of us) is we feel that “over-the-top, optimistic” posters are simply not being objective, so it’s hard to take ANY of their opinions seriously. (This thread is Exhibit A.)

What’s worse is that some posters seem to equate being “optimistic” with being a good Giants fan and of course conversely they view any negative comments about the Giants, their players, coaches, front office and ownership (no matter how accurate the comments are) as evidence that those posters are bad Giants fans… and that they’re only happy when the Giants lose.

Absolute nonsense!

I’m very happy that the Giants won the last two weeks and I’m hopeful for the future. But I’m not going to sacrifice my objectivity just to earn admittance to BBI’s Most Delusional Giants Fans Club.
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UConn4523 : 11/18/2020 9:25 am : link
In comment 15049607 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 15049582 UConn4523 said:


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fans of the same team take issue with fans who want to think we will be good. Its something I'll never be able to understand.

If you got some monetary value from being right about the Giants sucking I'd get it. But unless that's happening what's the issue? Afraid to be let down?



I like to deal in reality. Optimism is one thing. Blithely asserting that a 3-7 team that hasn't beaten a team outside of its own rancid division is far beyond mere optimism. It's pure delusion.


Naah, it really isn't. Its called fandom and in our division stinks so we can definitely win it if we keep trending upward. I think the superbowl talk is a bit much (and hyperbole in part) but playoffs isn't.

If you only want to think well of the team when they are definitively good you have every right. But shitting on people and calling them delusional because they think better of a bad team than you do doesn't make any sense.
I don't agree  
crick n NC : 11/18/2020 9:27 am : link
With Ralph's take, but I don't feel like less of a fan because I don't see it his way. It's fairly simple in my opinion, people see things their way and I see them mine. What I have issues with are when I get the feeling other fans are trying to tell me how to think or how I should feel about something. Although, I don't agree with really any of what Ralph said, I don't get the sense that he is telling me his way is the only way to look at this team.
and its also a grand total of 1 poster  
UConn4523 : 11/18/2020 9:27 am : link
you guys can't wait to jump on. In contrast the number of miserable fucks that hate everything Giants dwarfs this 1 opinion so there's that too.

I don't know, let the guy live. If your bothered by it that's sad.
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Victor in CT : 11/18/2020 9:32 am : link
In comment 15049486 MOOPS said:
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this is funny!

BUT, why not dream? Good for you Ralph C.

Personally I'm happy to just see continued progress for 2020 and be able to watch and enjoy the Giants on Sunday afternoons again.
RE: and its also a grand total of 1 poster  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:34 am : link
In comment 15049629 UConn4523 said:
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you guys can't wait to jump on. In contrast the number of miserable fucks that hate everything Giants dwarfs this 1 opinion so there's that too.

I don't know, let the guy live. If your bothered by it that's sad.

RE: and its also a grand total of 1 poster  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:35 am : link
In comment 15049629 UConn4523 said:
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you guys can't wait to jump on. In contrast the number of miserable fucks that hate everything Giants dwarfs this 1 opinion so there's that too.

I don't know, let the guy live. If your bothered by it that's sad.


Oh shut the fuck up already. You wanna go around white-knighting and acting like saying the 3-7 Giants are a top 4 team in the NFC as well as Super Bowl candidates than you're just as delusional. Clown.
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