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Jon in NYC : 11/18/2020 7:59 am
I expect a wild day. Was expecting some news overnight but that didn't happen, so here we go. Do we get some Harden/Westbrook news today?
I have no interest in a 30+ superstar  
George from PA : 11/18/2020 8:14 am : link
Unless, he is the final piece to put thr Knicks over the top.


Meaning, they somehow added 2 young superstars beforehand.
Praying  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 8:20 am : link
the Knicks take Kira Lewis.

It's Kira 1 or Vassel 2.
As a NYK fan  
NYG22 : 11/18/2020 8:30 am : link
I am hoping for a conservative approach. No Westbrook please.

Just get a wing that can shoot and defend at a high level. Spend $ in FA on a guy in his prime, that has proven to be a winner along with shooter/defender etc. Here is what I want:

PG: FVV via FA (4 years at $25mm per), Malachi Flynn at 27, Jared Harper

SG: RJB, Frank Ntilikina, Immanual Quickley via acquired 2nd round pick

SF: Devin Vassell at 8, Reggie Bullock, Kevin Knox, Iggy Brazdeikas (who I think will surprise people and steal minutes)

PF: Julius Randle (I don't want to give up assets to trade a guy whose warts are greatly mitigated when you take ball handling responsibilities away from him), Kenny Wooten, Robert Woodard (favorite of mine in this draft) at 38

C: Mitchell Robinson, Taj Gibson, Willie Cauley-Stein on a cheap 1 year deal
Pretty sure Knicks can vault to top of league  
M.S. : 11/18/2020 8:33 am : link

With this Draft.
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Anakim : 11/18/2020 8:53 am : link
Hoop Central
@TheHoopCentral
REPORT: The Warriors have discussed trading the No. 2 Overall Pick to the Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr. and the No. 4 Overall Pick, via @KevinOConnorNBA.


Bulls would take Wiseman.
That's  
Jon in NYC : 11/18/2020 8:55 am : link
a nice move for the Warriors. Apparently they like Avidja.
im not trading carter...  
Italianju : 11/18/2020 8:57 am : link
to move up 2 spots. If Wiseman doesnt end up as good as Carter is would it surprise anyone? Not that Carter is some stud but he hasnt really stayed healthy and got a full season yet. He almost averaged a double double with a block in under 30 minutes last season.
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nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 8:58 am : link
In comment 15049578 Anakim said:
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Hoop Central
@TheHoopCentral
REPORT: The Warriors have discussed trading the No. 2 Overall Pick to the Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr. and the No. 4 Overall Pick, via @KevinOConnorNBA.


Bulls would take Wiseman.


If that deal went through..

Edwards, wiseman, Ball, advija is the top 4..

Guessing Toppin goes to Cleveland, i think Atlanta trades the pick, Detroit goes Hayes or Haliburton..
RE: im not trading carter...  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 8:59 am : link
In comment 15049583 Italianju said:
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to move up 2 spots. If Wiseman doesnt end up as good as Carter is would it surprise anyone? Not that Carter is some stud but he hasnt really stayed healthy and got a full season yet. He almost averaged a double double with a block in under 30 minutes last season.


there are rumors that the Bulls are not high on Carter as a long term piece
From what I've seen of him,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2020 9:12 am : link
Wendall Carter Jr. looks like a good player to build around.
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KDavies : 11/18/2020 9:17 am : link
In comment 15049578 Anakim said:
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Hoop Central
@TheHoopCentral
REPORT: The Warriors have discussed trading the No. 2 Overall Pick to the Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr. and the No. 4 Overall Pick, via @KevinOConnorNBA.


Bulls would take Wiseman.


As a Bulls fan, I have heard shit all over the map. Hearing they are looking to trade down to 8 with the Knicks (Knicks go Toppin, Bulls go Williams/Hayes). I've heard Williams, Ball, Okongwu, Avdija. It's all over the place.

I don't see an upgrade from Carter to Wiseman being worth the #4 pick in the draft, particularly when big men like Wiseman are not nearly as important in today's NBA.
I dont know if people saw this  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 9:19 am : link
but last night WOJ said he expects a lot of action today..
My NBA knowledge is poor, at best  
bigbluehoya : 11/18/2020 9:20 am : link
but based on what I've been reading here over the last few weeks, it sounds like what I am hoping for is that the Knicks stay at 8 and Hayes falls to them.

An otherwise, Kira Lewis either at 8 or even better after a small trade down.

I think that's my worthless opinion of things right now.
RE: Praying  
LTIsTheGreatest : 11/18/2020 9:21 am : link
In comment 15049547 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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the Knicks take Kira Lewis.

It's Kira 1 or Vassel 2.


unless Toppin falls to them, I want Halliburton. Then Isaih Stewart at #27. Maybe trade their 2 first rounders for Boston's 3 first rounders and get an extra pick
Knicks move up to 23  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 9:24 am : link
27 and 38 goes to Utah
NYK just traded 27 and 38  
NYG22 : 11/18/2020 9:26 am : link
for 23 (Jazz)
RE: NYK just traded 27 and 38  
LTIsTheGreatest : 11/18/2020 9:31 am : link
In comment 15049622 NYG22 said:
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for 23 (Jazz)

Don't understand this trade. WHo can they get at 23 who wouldn't be available at 27? 38th pick could also have been avaluable player
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AcidTest : 11/18/2020 10:06 am : link
In comment 15049605 KDavies said:
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In comment 15049578 Anakim said:


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Hoop Central
@TheHoopCentral
REPORT: The Warriors have discussed trading the No. 2 Overall Pick to the Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr. and the No. 4 Overall Pick, via @KevinOConnorNBA.


Bulls would take Wiseman.



As a Bulls fan, I have heard shit all over the map. Hearing they are looking to trade down to 8 with the Knicks (Knicks go Toppin, Bulls go Williams/Hayes). I've heard Williams, Ball, Okongwu, Avdija. It's all over the place.

I don't see an upgrade from Carter to Wiseman being worth the #4 pick in the draft, particularly when big men like Wiseman are not nearly as important in today's NBA.


Excellent analysis. I am also a Bulls fan. You obviously know a lot more than I do, but it does appear that the Bulls could any one of about a half a dozen things. I wouldn't trade Carter and #4 for Wiseman.
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KDavies : 11/18/2020 10:19 am : link
In comment 15049726 AcidTest said:
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In comment 15049578 Anakim said:


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Hoop Central
@TheHoopCentral
REPORT: The Warriors have discussed trading the No. 2 Overall Pick to the Bulls for Wendell Carter Jr. and the No. 4 Overall Pick, via @KevinOConnorNBA.


Bulls would take Wiseman.



As a Bulls fan, I have heard shit all over the map. Hearing they are looking to trade down to 8 with the Knicks (Knicks go Toppin, Bulls go Williams/Hayes). I've heard Williams, Ball, Okongwu, Avdija. It's all over the place.

I don't see an upgrade from Carter to Wiseman being worth the #4 pick in the draft, particularly when big men like Wiseman are not nearly as important in today's NBA.



Excellent analysis. I am also a Bulls fan. You obviously know a lot more than I do, but it does appear that the Bulls could any one of about a half a dozen things. I wouldn't trade Carter and #4 for Wiseman.


Yeah, it's pretty wide open this year. They have brought in some good execs. Executive VP of basketball operations is Arturas Karnisovas, former GM and assistant GM of Denver, who was instrumental in bring in Jokic, Murray, and Porter. GM is Marc Eversley, who was head scout and assistant GM with the Raptors.

Bulls could go any number of ways. Their two best players IMO are Lavine and White, and both play the same position really. I would like to see them both in the backcourt together, but word is they view White as more of a SG than a PG. So they could draft a distributor and trade Lavine. I have no clue what is going to happen.
RE: Praying  
Chamberlain : 11/18/2020 10:48 am : link
In comment 15049547 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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the Knicks take Kira Lewis.

It's Kira 1 or Vassel 2.

Absolutely agree on this! Need to get someone who has a shot already. We have 5 young players already who are still hoping to develop one. I'd prefer Lewis because of his speed and ability to facilitate for others, but would be OK with Vassel.
RE: RE: NYK just traded 27 and 38  
90.Cal : 11/18/2020 1:48 pm : link
In comment 15049642 LTIsTheGreatest said:
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for 23 (Jazz)


Don't understand this trade. WHo can they get at 23 who wouldn't be available at 27? 38th pick could also have been avaluable player


At least 4 players won't be there at 27 but will be there at 23... clearly... but you asked.
RE: I have no interest in a 30+ superstar  
90.Cal : 11/18/2020 1:50 pm : link
In comment 15049544 George from PA said:
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Unless, he is the final piece to put thr Knicks over the top.


Meaning, they somehow added 2 young superstars beforehand.


Lmao. Just be happy if yall do anything. Westbrook would be the best player you've had since.... jesus... maybe Ewing idk... prime Melo and Russ RN are basically the same tier for me.
RE: RE: RE: NYK just traded 27 and 38  
larryflower37 : 11/18/2020 1:54 pm : link
In comment 15050154 90.Cal said:
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for 23 (Jazz)


Don't understand this trade. WHo can they get at 23 who wouldn't be available at 27? 38th pick could also have been avaluable player



At least 4 players won't be there at 27 but will be there at 23... clearly... but you asked.


I read somewhere with possible no G-league this year most teams are putting a premium on players that can make the 15.
I like it  
Spider43 : 11/18/2020 8:45 pm : link
Halliburton or Avdija, make it happen.
Good on Pop  
Spider43 : 11/18/2020 9:18 pm : link
Vasell at #11 is excellent value.
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