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DanMetroMan : 11/18/2020 9:24 am
27 and 38 for 23. Per Woj.. take Bane or Flynn at 23
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Why do this now?  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 9:25 am : link
why not wait?
RE: Why do this now?  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:26 am : link
In comment 15049620 nygiants16 said:
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why not wait?


Agreed. Very odd.
Knicks must  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:26 am : link
really like someone at 23.
seems a little strange  
Enzo : 11/18/2020 9:26 am : link
to do this now as opposed to during the draft.
RE: seems a little strange  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 9:27 am : link
In comment 15049624 Enzo said:
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to do this now as opposed to during the draft.


Yup, unless they are using 8 and 23 to move up, or using 23 for another player?
I like Flynn, but I like Tyrell Terry more.  
Heisenberg : 11/18/2020 9:27 am : link
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RE: Knicks must  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:28 am : link
In comment 15049623 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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really like someone at 23.


Yeah, but how do we know who will be available at 23? And how do we know that he won't be available at 27?


Weird trade
Only way this makes sense  
Big Rick in FL : 11/18/2020 9:28 am : link
Is if they are using 8 & 23 to move up IMO. Otherwise makes no sense to do this now.
Giving up #38 to move up 4 spots late in the 1st.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:28 am : link
Not sure if I like the value this early in the game unless the Knicks plan on using #8 and #23 to move even further up.
So, if someone takes their guy early they're a laughingstock?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/18/2020 9:28 am : link
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Maybe Rose knows  
Jan in DC : 11/18/2020 9:29 am : link
who is being targeted by teams within the range of that jump. Because without that, it doesn't really make sense to pull the trigger on that trade now.
RE: Only way this makes sense  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:29 am : link
In comment 15049631 Big Rick in FL said:
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Is if they are using 8 & 23 to move up IMO. Otherwise makes no sense to do this now.


True. Could be that.
it makes sense  
Giantsfan79 : 11/18/2020 9:29 am : link
if they are planning to package the picks for something else and needed the extra value the 23rd pick provides compared to the 27th pick.

otherwise yeah why didn't they work out this trade in advance and pull the trigger if the guy they want is still there at 23.
or what Big Rick said  
Giantsfan79 : 11/18/2020 9:30 am : link
scary when posters think alike.
I guess it could be part of another  
Enzo : 11/18/2020 9:30 am : link
trade but it seems like a bit of an overpay. To me, #38 has more value than moving up 4 spots in the 20s of any draft. You can find good players in the first 10 spots of the second round.
Might be in the minority here  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:32 am : link
but I'd rather the Knicks stay at #8 and #23 instead of moving up.
It definitely  
Jon in NYC : 11/18/2020 9:35 am : link
sounds like they're planning on moving up
They  
DanMetroMan : 11/18/2020 9:35 am : link
Are totally going to package the picks for Toppin aren’t they?
RE: They  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:36 am : link
In comment 15049649 DanMetroMan said:
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Are totally going to package the picks for Toppin aren’t they?


Barf
Trade  
31southst : 11/18/2020 9:36 am : link
Agree with everyone the timing is curious but I guess the opposite could be true too - Utah needs it done now for whatever reason.
Take  
DanMetroMan : 11/18/2020 9:37 am : link
Hayes. Hayes and Bane would be a killer outcome but I feel a dumb Toppin trade up
RE: They  
Jon in NYC : 11/18/2020 9:37 am : link
In comment 15049649 DanMetroMan said:
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Are totally going to package the picks for Toppin aren’t they?


I think this is likely.
Wonder if They Might Deal Picks 8 and 23  
LTIsTheGreatest : 11/18/2020 9:38 am : link
to Boston for their 3 first rounders 14, 26 an 30. Its not like their is a huge gap in talent anywhere in this draft
I'm on board with Hayes as well at 8  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:39 am : link
23...IDK. I mean we don't know who will even be there!
Is Toppin even that good?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/18/2020 9:39 am : link
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RE: They  
Greg from LI : 11/18/2020 9:39 am : link
In comment 15049649 DanMetroMan said:
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Are totally going to package the picks for Toppin aren’t they?


Only thing that makes sense, since no one has any idea who will be available at 23.
RE: Is Toppin even that good?  
Greg from LI : 11/18/2020 9:40 am : link
In comment 15049663 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I like him, but he doesn't really fit the Knicks.
maybe they have an idea how easy it would be to acquire...  
Italianju : 11/18/2020 9:40 am : link
second round picks in the 40 range.

But yeah i think its more likely they needed the value of 23 for some other move.

Im ok moving up but i really dont want it to be for Toppin. I wasnt even loving the idea of taking him if he fell to 8. But 8 and 23 is only getting you up to what 5-6 in this draft? Id rather keep the picks unless we can move up for one of the top 3 (i know its not happening).
Another option  
Jon in NYC : 11/18/2020 9:41 am : link
is trying to move up again from 23, ala DSJ and 23 for 15 from the Magic.
Toppin  
ryanmkeane : 11/18/2020 9:42 am : link
has a high floor, defensively he leaves a lot to be desired. I can see him being a 16-17 PPG guy but doesn't play much D
I was reading that a good pro comparison  
ryanmkeane : 11/18/2020 9:43 am : link
for Haliburton is Gary Harris. Sign me up for that if so.
RE: Another option  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 11/18/2020 9:43 am : link
In comment 15049669 Jon in NYC said:
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is trying to move up again from 23, ala DSJ and 23 for 15 from the Magic.


Would love this.
RE: Another option  
NYG22 : 11/18/2020 9:45 am : link
In comment 15049669 Jon in NYC said:
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is trying to move up again from 23, ala DSJ and 23 for 15 from the Magic.


Where do I sign?
again for at least one offseason..  
Italianju : 11/18/2020 9:46 am : link
im going to trust this FO. So im guessing Rose has a reason for doing this now. Maybe UTA had another offer from a team, maybe this is part of another trade, maybe a team offered us the 40th pick for money and we figured we can easily replace 38, etc...
Only makes sense if,1. trading up  
TheMick7 : 11/18/2020 9:46 am : link
2.Second round picks are available for $$$, so Leon is making a calculated gamble
Toppin is a defensive sieve.  
Optimus-NY : 11/18/2020 9:46 am : link
The Coach and him would be a hilarious mismatch.
I  
AcidTest : 11/18/2020 9:47 am : link
agree with everyone else that making this trade now seems premature unless they are planning to package those picks to move up. This is the kind of trade that would typically be done when teams are on the clock.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/18/2020 9:47 am : link
Weird timing.
Knicks  
DanMetroMan : 11/18/2020 9:48 am : link
Also get Tomic... before you get excited... he’s 34 next season lol
RE: maybe they have an idea how easy it would be to acquire...  
Mike in NY : 11/18/2020 9:50 am : link
In comment 15049667 Italianju said:
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second round picks in the 40 range.

But yeah i think its more likely they needed the value of 23 for some other move.

Im ok moving up but i really dont want it to be for Toppin. I wasnt even loving the idea of taking him if he fell to 8. But 8 and 23 is only getting you up to what 5-6 in this draft? Id rather keep the picks unless we can move up for one of the top 3 (i know its not happening).


I wouldn't do it for Toppin, but I can see how the Knicks were willing to part with 38 since Mock Drafts seem to indicate that potentially a number of players we could be targetting are listed in the late 20's and since 2nd Rounders can be obtained for cash it was worth the deal.
Not saying it is a bad deal  
nygiants16 : 11/18/2020 9:50 am : link
it is just weird to do this now, even if they like a few guys in that range, you wait..
KOC  
DanMetroMan : 11/18/2020 9:52 am : link
Says Ball likely goes 3 if he’s still there. MJ has signed off
im sure we will here differently throughout the day...  
Italianju : 11/18/2020 9:53 am : link
but i think the top 3 is pretty set in stone. Not necessarily the order, but the top 3
Damn, I was looking forward  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2020 9:53 am : link
to staying up late and watching YouTube highlights of our draft and stash pick at #38.
RE: Knicks  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:54 am : link
In comment 15049689 DanMetroMan said:
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Also get Tomic... before you get excited... he’s 34 next season lol


Jesus. Do draft rights ever expire? Do we still have the rights to Ahmed Nivens?
RE: Toppin is a defensive sieve.  
Jon in NYC : 11/18/2020 9:54 am : link
In comment 15049682 Optimus-NY said:
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The Coach and him would be a hilarious mismatch.


If they take him I imagine Thibs would have signed off. So maybe he sees upside there?
I do kind of hate not having a pick after 23...  
Italianju : 11/18/2020 9:55 am : link
Guess we can get hopefully but a 2nd at some point
RE: I do kind of hate not having a pick after 23...  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2020 9:56 am : link
In comment 15049706 Italianju said:
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Guess we can get hopefully but a 2nd at some point

There has been chatter that we might buy an extra second rounder, so we'll see.
with teams hurting financially i could see 2nds..  
Italianju : 11/18/2020 9:58 am : link
being available for cash.
RE: KOC  
Anakim : 11/18/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 15049697 DanMetroMan said:
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Says Ball likely goes 3 if he’s still there. MJ has signed off


Maybe we can see the long-awaited Lavar vs. MJ one-on-one
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