Offensive Line Coach Marc Colombo FIRED

what?

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Something happened.

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over the last few weeks. Maybe there were some quiet changes already that we didn't hear about that led to this improvement?

I wonder if Garrett pushed for Colombo initially and Judge agreed.

Judge said this morning on WFAN they would spend this week self scouting. Seems an odd time to make this type of decision.

Wonder if there's more to the story.

Colombo was the most exciting hire for me outside of Judge.

And we fire the coach? WTF?

Improvement seems to be as a result of this. Maybe Colombo wasn't getting the job done.
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If you're wondering why the #Giants are making a change at OL coach at a time when they're playing better up front, see this clip from
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Weekend the other day. Joe Judge has devoted more time to helping coach the line recently.

Maybe Joe Judge lost faith in Columbo as he had to help out coaching the line more in practice.

not sure we will get it, but something happened.

Either way, if you weren't sold on Judge running this team with authority, here's another example.

Maybe the recent improvement is in spite of Colombo

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Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo If you're wondering why the #Giants are making a change at OL coach at a time when they're playing better up front, see this clip from @gmfb Weekend the other day. Joe Judge has devoted more time to helping coach the line recently.

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they must have felt that Thomas et all initial problems were Columbo...

Judge isn't afraid to make changes

So Colombo was a bust, Judge had to step in, and since then they've been better?

who did all the OL work in Dallas? Did Colombo just get by on the surplus of talent they had or was it more Garrett (or someone else)?

In comment 15049939 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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So Colombo was a bust, Judge had to step in, and since then they've been better?

That's what it sounds like. Anything know about Dave DeGuglielmo? Seems like he's bounced around the league between teams every year or so. Wonder why he's never stuck anywhere long term.

If thats the case, talk about accountability. And if that's how he handled it, don't know if you can do it any better. Joe Judge is a 68 year old 30 year veteran hc in a 38 year old rookie hc's body.

If it's true that Judge stepped in to coach the offensive line and that's the reason for improvement, that's incredibly impressive.

Also, the fact that he's willing to pull the trigger quickly, that's really impressive, as well.

In comment 15049943 Josh in the City said:

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In comment 15049939 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: So Colombo was a bust, Judge had to step in, and since then they've been better? That's what it sounds like. Anything know about Dave DeGuglielmo? Seems like he's bounced around the league between teams every year or so. Wonder why he's never stuck anywhere long term.

Pats OL coach 2014-15,so has a tie-in w/Judge

In comment 15049941 90.Cal said:

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Quote: PFF NY Giants @PFF_Giants Through 10 games the Giants are last in pass-block grade (47.2) and 28th in run-block grade (56.9).

While fair, i think going back the past month would be a more accurate picture of our OL. Curious what those ratings are (the eye test says a lot better, definitively in run blocking).

In Judge We Trust

:-)

by Mike G (miss that dude covering the Gmen and Eric and I had him on BBI Online Live a few times).

Go back to the report that the Georgia Coach said Thomas's technique was not what he had been coached before and maybe there was something to it.

Judge does not mess around and I love it. It sends a message to the players as well, not all blame will be on you. If coaches are not doing their jobs or not doing them the way Judge wants then changes will be made.

In comment 15049942 UConn4523 said:

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who did all the OL work in Dallas? Did Colombo just get by on the surplus of talent they had or was it more Garrett (or someone else)?

He was assistant OL Coach from 2016-18 and then took over as OL coach. But even by 2016, Dallas' OL already featured 3 all-pros so I'm guessing there wasn't a ton of development needed.

Started to go back to his Georgia technique very recently as opposed to what Colombo was teaching him. Now what I believe happened is, Judge got in the mix an started fixing him, he's played well last 2 games and we won last 2 games. Coincidence?

In comment 15049943 Josh in the City said:

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In comment 15049939 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: So Colombo was a bust, Judge had to step in, and since then they've been better? That's what it sounds like. Anything know about Dave DeGuglielmo? Seems like he's bounced around the league between teams every year or so. Wonder why he's never stuck anywhere long term.

He has been everywhere including here in NY.

I think he was purposely replaced in New England a few years back because the OL was failing under his watch....don't quote me though.

If it's true that Judge devoted his time to being more involved with the O-line during practice, it absolutely shows the benefit of not having a HC whose calling the plays and buried in the playbook

There has to be something below the surface
Pretty obvious judge isn’t here to fuck around, not many would do this mid season when liane play is finally improving
Who has been assistant line coach? Wilkerson?
Hope it doesn’t screw up momentum.

I guess Paul Alexander was onto something.

the guy who helped turn around the Colts OL too?

This is an incredible development!

but interesting nonetheless.

Not even Jerry and his paranoia,did something happen that was comparable.

unbelievable

this guy is a bad ass

and WTF?

Very surprising - yet completely ballsy - move. As someone else said above, Judge isn't here to F around.

Colombo was teaching them/Thomas techniques that Judge wasn't totally comfortable with and neither were the players.

Judge steps in to help and sees the improvement in the results, but doesn't want to serve as the OL coach as well. Hires a guy he's comfortable with carrying out his vision.

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unless there's more to the story it sure sounds like this was performance related.

Wonder exactly what/why, though?

Was he teaching different techniques than what the Giants asked him to teach?

Was he teaching Giants techniques, but not getting the players to do it?

Was he being an azzhole?

Would love to find out why specifically Judge needed to step in.

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It’s possible it was a honest technical disagreement between two knowledgeable coaches.

In comment 15049951 jvm52106 said:

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by Mike G (miss that dude covering the Gmen and Eric and I had him on BBI Online Live a few times). Go back to the report that the Georgia Coach said Thomas's technique was not what he had been coached before and maybe there was something to it. Judge does not mess around and I love it. It sends a message to the players as well, not all blame will be on you. If coaches are not doing their jobs or not doing them the way Judge wants then changes will be made.

To follow-up on this, last week Thomas said in an interview that he was going back to some of the techniques he used in college the past few weeks. Couple that with the report from his college coach and the comments that Judge took more control of the OL, and I think there's some insight on why the change was made.

But it was something I didn't see coming. Pretty indicative of the way Judge will look at accountability.

More and more....he could do no wrong.

I completely trust his decisions.