was the same year as me at BC. And I knew a couple of his best friends on the team well. Both were very nice guys, one of which also played in NFL...but didn't come close to Columbo's NFL success. Now Columbo on the other hand was far from a nice guy. Complete ASSHOLE...hot head, tough guy type. He was the type of guy that just looked to start trouble with people half his size for no reason. He just enjoyed it. I could share a couple stories, but it doesn't matter. I posted this, to a lesser degree, when he was hired. Not that I was against the hire, as being an asshole doesn't necessarily make you a bad OL coach. Their are plenty of great coaches in sports who are complete assholes. Not to mention people typically cool down from 19 years old to 41. But in the end, people are who they are.
With all that said, who knows...maybe this will end up being a precursor to a bunch more of negative stuff with Judge. And Judge will continue the line of loser head coaches since Coughlin. But I don't know Judge, and I do know Columbo. So none of the reports surprise me one bit, that Columbo wouldn't have taken the news well that Judge was getting him help on the OL...and that Columbo would have even gotten somewhat physical with Judge.
Judge has been doing a good job so far. For a 3-7 team.
I can't believe we have like a literal "In Judge We Trust" crowd, it is insane given the way that phrase completely blew up in people's faces already.
You also see the same things as when DG cut Omameh with more people praising his "willingness to admit" mistakes than properly panning him for the move.
Don't need to lay blame at anyone's feet specifically but this isn't really an event that deserves more praise than criticism. Not a good look for the franchise or Judge.
RE: RE: RE: Boy this is a shocker - I wonder where Garrett is on all this
was the same year as me at BC. And I knew a couple of his best friends on the team well. Both were very nice guys, one of which also played in NFL...but didn't come close to Columbo's NFL success. Now Columbo on the other hand was far from a nice guy. Complete ASSHOLE...hot head, tough guy type. He was the type of guy that just looked to start trouble with people half his size for no reason. He just enjoyed it. I could share a couple stories, but it doesn't matter. I posted this, to a lesser degree, when he was hired. Not that I was against the hire, as being an asshole doesn't necessarily make you a bad OL coach. Their are plenty of great coaches in sports who are complete assholes. Not to mention people typically cool down from 19 years old to 41. But in the end, people are who they are.
With all that said, who knows...maybe this will end up being a precursor to a bunch more of negative stuff with Judge. And Judge will continue the line of loser head coaches since Coughlin. But I don't know Judge, and I do know Columbo. So none of the reports surprise me one bit, that Columbo wouldn't have taken the news well that Judge was getting him help on the OL...and that Columbo would have even gotten somewhat physical with Judge.
Thanks for the added color always appreciate "primary sources" definitely concerned about what exactly the culture fit with the Giants org is. Indeed something to keep an eye on
This doesn’t mess up the chemistry the team and the OL was starting to develop and build.
This is my concern too. Although what do we know. Colombo could have been a raving nutjob behind the scenes, pissing people off. In that case this would be a welcome relief. I can't wait until the real story comes out.
however....
I have also long believed that superior athletes make poor position coaches.
Success came naturally to them and they find it harder to relate to someone who has to put in a lot of effort to succeed.
There are a lot of very successful coaches who have played enough to understand the game but often rode the bench. (Dabo Swinney, walkon Alabama WR, is a recent example.)
In soccer, very few great players or even elite players become successful managers. The game comes too easily for them. They don't need to think deeply about it.
showing Colombo working with the line on combo blocks. When I notice it during a game, I think back on Colombo training them. He can't be all bad, just hotheaded.
This doesn’t mess up the chemistry the team and the OL was starting to develop and build.
This is my concern too. Although what do we know. Colombo could have been a raving nutjob behind the scenes, pissing people off. In that case this would be a welcome relief. I can't wait until the real story comes out.
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If you listen to the O Lineman on this team, you don't get that impression at all. In fact, they seemed to like him.
So Judge brings in a consultant, well of course
Columbo is going to feel undermined.
I don't blame him for being upset.
The guy that Judge is bringing in did such a bad job with the Pats, that BB had to bring back Scarnacchia out of retirement a few years ago.
I think he retired again after last season.
with Ereck Flowers if the OL coach was replaced. Flowers showed no improvement in technique during his time with the Giants. Now, it could have been that Flowers was taught the proper technique and just didn't respond, but who knows?
This doesn’t mess up the chemistry the team and the OL was starting to develop and build.
This is my concern too. Although what do we know. Colombo could have been a raving nutjob behind the scenes, pissing people off. In that case this would be a welcome relief. I can't wait until the real story comes out.
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If you listen to the O Lineman on this team, you don't get that impression at all. In fact, they seemed to like him.
So Judge brings in a consultant, well of course
Columbo is going to feel undermined.
I don't blame him for being upset.
The guy that Judge is bringing in did such a bad job with the Pats, that BB had to bring back Scarnacchia out of retirement a few years ago.
I think he retired again after last season.
Well, you fail to take into account the fact that the whole Pats O-Line was decimated by injuries that year. It was the year Solder went down for the whole season
The productivity in the run game is undeniable, the failures in pass protection are equally undeniable. The Giants are arguably the worst pass protecting team in the NFL. There have been bright glimpses from some young guys, and an equal amount of really bad play.
If Judge wanted to bring in consultation, and Colombo flipped his lid, see ya.
Well, you fail to take into account the fact that the whole Pats O-Line was decimated by injuries that year. It was the year Solder went down for the whole season
But Belichick didn't trust DeGuglielmo going forward, especially with young guys like Andrews, Mason, Jackson, Thuney filling the interior. So he went back to Yoda... ;)
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
The productivity in the run game is undeniable, the failures in pass protection are equally undeniable. The Giants are arguably the worst pass protecting team in the NFL. There have been bright glimpses from some young guys, and an equal amount of really bad play.
If Judge wanted to bring in consultation, and Colombo flipped his lid, see ya.
I think this likely recaps things correctly.
RE: I guess the bye week makes most sense to do it.
I wonder what this does to the Garrett/Judge dynamic if anything? I figured Columbo was a 'Garrett guy' but that might not be the case. I understand we are near if not at the bottom of the league in terms of points scored per game so might Judge be souring on Garrett too?
So Colombo was a bust, Judge had to step in, and since then they've been better?
That of course, is what the Company wants you to believe.
Look for Columbo to be thoroughly trashed by the team and its toadies in the media.
There have been rumblings about Thomas' technique going in the shitter long before this. If Judge really has been stepping in recently then it checks out.
I am sure it makes sense among the Believers. For the agnostics among us, Joe Judge has never played or coached o-line in his life but we are given the sugar coated Company line that He stepped in for a guy who both played and coached o-line in the NFL and the o-line was suddenly better due to His guidance and acumen.
Yeah ok. Frankly the "He got into a beef with Columbo who proceeded to kick his ass" makes more sense. For sure, you fire an employee for that but it sure doesn't say much about His Holiness' management style.
So Garafalo, NOT a beat reporter, who reported on judge working with the O-line awhile back, is " giving the company line"? how about you give it up, instead.
Judge either worked with the O-line and laid hands on, or he didn't. It was either reported previously he had done so or it wasn't. They either played better after he intervened, or they didn't.I don't think your point stands on merits, rather prejudice, and don't get the manlove for Colombo.
There’s reports saying they got into a fist fight this morning
Reports? PluraL? where are any other than the single vague one from McIntyre?
No there aren't. What's hilarious is the guy who tweeted that does not even cover the Giants and he's gone silent about this since the initial Tweet even though he's been called out on it. He got famous for 10 mins so he accomplished what he wanted
That said Judge and Colombo got into a shouting match when Judge informed him he was bringing in DeGuglielmo as an OL consultant. And that's what led to the firing.
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Colombo may have sealed his fate to never being hired again by an NFL team.
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
There was a lot glad handing about Colombo, that I was nervous about. Colombo - ( New Window )
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
'Crash must have called the guy a cocksucker.
'Mmm...he's so romantic.'
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Colombo may have sealed his fate to never being hired again by an NFL team.
Really? Because a football coach called another football coach a bad name? Isn’t that par for the course these days? He felt undermined, got upset. End of career?
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
'Crash must have called the guy a cocksucker.
'Mmm...he's so romantic.'
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Colombo may have sealed his fate to never being hired again by an NFL team.
I wonder who told Kim Jones that Colombo would not last?
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Sounds like Colombo called Judge a cunt.
I'm going for motherf**ker myself
My concern is Judge’s style rubbing people the wrong way..
And I’m all in on Judge, no doubts. But, this is the danger of bringing in a coach who hasn’t been brought up in the Belichick way of doing things.
For Colombo to flip out like that, he had some bottled up anger. Maybe he was annoyed and felt Judge had been undermining him in recent weeks. But, it’s clear Judge is working these coaches HARD.
RE: My concern is Judge’s style rubbing people the wrong way..
And I’m all in on Judge, no doubts. But, this is the danger of bringing in a coach who hasn’t been brought up in the Belichick way of doing things.
For Colombo to flip out like that, he had some bottled up anger. Maybe he was annoyed and felt Judge had been undermining him in recent weeks. But, it’s clear Judge is working these coaches HARD.
When you're a HC at 0-5 on your way to 3-7, yeah, I'll be he's working them hard. It's a turnaround project.
I have been part of a turnaround project at my job. Everyone was asked to work extra hard, make sacrifices, to turn around the business. We did. The problem was, there was no end to that. Everyone was asked to work extra hard and make sacrifices so we could ... have the privilege of continuing to work extra hard and make sacrifices, forever. That caused some frustration among the employees. NFL coaching is so competitive, I expect it's similar. The demands are extraordinary and they never taper off.
Really? Because a football coach called another football coach a bad name? Isn’t that par for the course these days? He felt undermined, got upset. End of career?
I don't know if it's "par for the course".
Colombo called his boss the four letter C-word. That seems way over the top to me...even for football.
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Leaders have to make tough decisions, Judge is showing that ability. Would McAdoo/Shurmur even consider bringing in an OL assistant? Hell no, they would rest on Colombo's resume and say we got a top OL coach, it must be the players. Ballsy move
This story reminds me of this scene from Moneyball
The OL is starting to play well, rookies are rounding out, etc. Then you read about Judge stepping in and assisting in coaching, and Thomas reverting back to his college technique and it answers a lot.
So WTF changed to good for Judge. I still don't know how to feel about this team right now, but the last few weeks are the first time in a few years I have felt good about the future of this team. Even after McAdoo's fist year, I didn't feel confident in the team. Right now, I do. Judge is in full control and holding everyone accountable. It's great.
As for Thomas, I remember a few weeks back his college coach was quoted about him not doing what they taught him and what made him a first round pick. So, what I haven't seen here (maybe I missed it) is what made him go back to his Georgia technique? Was it on his own? Did that interview with the Georgia coach make an impact? Is that Judge's doing also?
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
'Crash must have called the guy a cocksucker.
'Mmm...he's so romantic.'
I do too, although I don't think we should sugarcoat this in terms of the timing and the way it went down. Whether Judge or Colombo brought it to a head, I don't think it helps a bunch of rookies to have their position coach fired mid-season. Better to have an orderly transition.
But if that wasn't in the cards here, so be it.
RE: Like most, if not everyone, I read this and first said WTF
The OL is starting to play well, rookies are rounding out, etc. Then you read about Judge stepping in and assisting in coaching, and Thomas reverting back to his college technique and it answers a lot.
So WTF changed to good for Judge. I still don't know how to feel about this team right now, but the last few weeks are the first time in a few years I have felt good about the future of this team. Even after McAdoo's fist year, I didn't feel confident in the team. Right now, I do. Judge is in full control and holding everyone accountable. It's great.
As for Thomas, I remember a few weeks back his college coach was quoted about him not doing what they taught him and what made him a first round pick. So, what I haven't seen here (maybe I missed it) is what made him go back to his Georgia technique? Was it on his own? Did that interview with the Georgia coach make an impact? Is that Judge's doing also?
All this crap came from Paul Alexander who has a major ax to grind with Columbo. Who knew offensive line coaches were all a bunch of Mary’s?
This all comes to the fact Judge had to work with the offensive line, wanted to bring in an assistant, Columbo took it like the asshole he apparently is, and Judge fired him because their relationship was over. All this stuff about his “Georgia technique” is a bunch of unsubstantiated fluff. That Bobby Skinner guy has broken this down.
They were killed by injuries his last year there. That was the year Solder went down
With all that said, who knows...maybe this will end up being a precursor to a bunch more of negative stuff with Judge. And Judge will continue the line of loser head coaches since Coughlin. But I don't know Judge, and I do know Columbo. So none of the reports surprise me one bit, that Columbo wouldn't have taken the news well that Judge was getting him help on the OL...and that Columbo would have even gotten somewhat physical with Judge.
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If Thomas plays better using his college techniques, that tells you something about MC's coaching.
I can't believe we have like a literal "In Judge We Trust" crowd, it is insane given the way that phrase completely blew up in people's faces already.
You also see the same things as when DG cut Omameh with more people praising his "willingness to admit" mistakes than properly panning him for the move.
Don't need to lay blame at anyone's feet specifically but this isn't really an event that deserves more praise than criticism. Not a good look for the franchise or Judge.
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Whatever Garrett thinks, he's not going to opine publicly about it. They'll keep it in house
yeah.. Garrett will just have that stupid pedophile smile on his face and won't say anything
Was this supposed to be funny?
I'm not personally offended but find this comment to be ridiculous.
With all that said, who knows...maybe this will end up being a precursor to a bunch more of negative stuff with Judge. And Judge will continue the line of loser head coaches since Coughlin. But I don't know Judge, and I do know Columbo. So none of the reports surprise me one bit, that Columbo wouldn't have taken the news well that Judge was getting him help on the OL...and that Columbo would have even gotten somewhat physical with Judge.
Thanks for the added color always appreciate "primary sources" definitely concerned about what exactly the culture fit with the Giants org is. Indeed something to keep an eye on
it appears they were doing this because of Judge, not Colombo
This is my concern too. Although what do we know. Colombo could have been a raving nutjob behind the scenes, pissing people off. In that case this would be a welcome relief. I can't wait until the real story comes out.
If anything I see it being a positive. This team was just put on notice. Produce or get the fuck out. Nobody's job is safe. So, get to work.
I have also long believed that superior athletes make poor position coaches.
Success came naturally to them and they find it harder to relate to someone who has to put in a lot of effort to succeed.
There are a lot of very successful coaches who have played enough to understand the game but often rode the bench. (Dabo Swinney, walkon Alabama WR, is a recent example.)
In soccer, very few great players or even elite players become successful managers. The game comes too easily for them. They don't need to think deeply about it.
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This doesn’t mess up the chemistry the team and the OL was starting to develop and build.
This is my concern too. Although what do we know. Colombo could have been a raving nutjob behind the scenes, pissing people off. In that case this would be a welcome relief. I can't wait until the real story comes out.
If you listen to the O Lineman on this team, you don't get that impression at all. In fact, they seemed to like him.
So Judge brings in a consultant, well of course
Columbo is going to feel undermined.
I don't blame him for being upset.
The guy that Judge is bringing in did such a bad job with the Pats, that BB had to bring back Scarnacchia out of retirement a few years ago.
I think he retired again after last season.
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This doesn’t mess up the chemistry the team and the OL was starting to develop and build.
This is my concern too. Although what do we know. Colombo could have been a raving nutjob behind the scenes, pissing people off. In that case this would be a welcome relief. I can't wait until the real story comes out.
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If you listen to the O Lineman on this team, you don't get that impression at all. In fact, they seemed to like him.
So Judge brings in a consultant, well of course
Columbo is going to feel undermined.
I don't blame him for being upset.
The guy that Judge is bringing in did such a bad job with the Pats, that BB had to bring back Scarnacchia out of retirement a few years ago.
I think he retired again after last season.
Well, you fail to take into account the fact that the whole Pats O-Line was decimated by injuries that year. It was the year Solder went down for the whole season
If Judge wanted to bring in consultation, and Colombo flipped his lid, see ya.
Well, you fail to take into account the fact that the whole Pats O-Line was decimated by injuries that year. It was the year Solder went down for the whole season
But Belichick didn't trust DeGuglielmo going forward, especially with young guys like Andrews, Mason, Jackson, Thuney filling the interior. So he went back to Yoda... ;)
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
If Judge wanted to bring in consultation, and Colombo flipped his lid, see ya.
I think this likely recaps things correctly.
possible, sure.
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So Colombo was a bust, Judge had to step in, and since then they've been better?
That of course, is what the Company wants you to believe.
Look for Columbo to be thoroughly trashed by the team and its toadies in the media.
There have been rumblings about Thomas' technique going in the shitter long before this. If Judge really has been stepping in recently then it checks out.
I am sure it makes sense among the Believers. For the agnostics among us, Joe Judge has never played or coached o-line in his life but we are given the sugar coated Company line that He stepped in for a guy who both played and coached o-line in the NFL and the o-line was suddenly better due to His guidance and acumen.
Yeah ok. Frankly the "He got into a beef with Columbo who proceeded to kick his ass" makes more sense. For sure, you fire an employee for that but it sure doesn't say much about His Holiness' management style.
Judge either worked with the O-line and laid hands on, or he didn't. It was either reported previously he had done so or it wasn't. They either played better after he intervened, or they didn't.I don't think your point stands on merits, rather prejudice, and don't get the manlove for Colombo.
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There’s reports saying they got into a fist fight this morning
Reports? PluraL? where are any other than the single vague one from McIntyre?
No there aren't. What's hilarious is the guy who tweeted that does not even cover the Giants and he's gone silent about this since the initial Tweet even though he's been called out on it. He got famous for 10 mins so he accomplished what he wanted
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Colombo may have sealed his fate to never being hired again by an NFL team.
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
There was a lot glad handing about Colombo, that I was nervous about.
Colombo - ( New Window )
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
'Crash must have called the guy a cocksucker.
'Mmm...he's so romantic.'
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@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Colombo may have sealed his fate to never being hired again by an NFL team.
Really? Because a football coach called another football coach a bad name? Isn’t that par for the course these days? He felt undermined, got upset. End of career?
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@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
'Crash must have called the guy a cocksucker.
'Mmm...he's so romantic.'
Right letter, but I think wrong C-word.
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@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Colombo may have sealed his fate to never being hired again by an NFL team.
I wonder who told Kim Jones that Colombo would not last?
@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
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@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Sounds like Colombo called Judge a cunt.
I'm going for motherf**ker myself
For Colombo to flip out like that, he had some bottled up anger. Maybe he was annoyed and felt Judge had been undermining him in recent weeks. But, it’s clear Judge is working these coaches HARD.
For Colombo to flip out like that, he had some bottled up anger. Maybe he was annoyed and felt Judge had been undermining him in recent weeks. But, it’s clear Judge is working these coaches HARD.
I have been part of a turnaround project at my job. Everyone was asked to work extra hard, make sacrifices, to turn around the business. We did. The problem was, there was no end to that. Everyone was asked to work extra hard and make sacrifices so we could ... have the privilege of continuing to work extra hard and make sacrifices, forever. That caused some frustration among the employees. NFL coaching is so competitive, I expect it's similar. The demands are extraordinary and they never taper off.
Really? Because a football coach called another football coach a bad name? Isn’t that par for the course these days? He felt undermined, got upset. End of career?
I don't know if it's "par for the course".
Colombo called his boss the four letter C-word. That seems way over the top to me...even for football.
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@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
Sounds like Colombo called Judge a cunt.
Yup. Sounds like Colombo went full Swearingen.
Never go full Swearingen.
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So WTF changed to good for Judge. I still don't know how to feel about this team right now, but the last few weeks are the first time in a few years I have felt good about the future of this team. Even after McAdoo's fist year, I didn't feel confident in the team. Right now, I do. Judge is in full control and holding everyone accountable. It's great.
As for Thomas, I remember a few weeks back his college coach was quoted about him not doing what they taught him and what made him a first round pick. So, what I haven't seen here (maybe I missed it) is what made him go back to his Georgia technique? Was it on his own? Did that interview with the Georgia coach make an impact? Is that Judge's doing also?
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@KimJonesSports
Heard from a bunch of people today. I am convinced Joe Judge & Mark Colombo never got physical. I do believe Colombo called Judge, his boss, one of the dirtiest words in the English language.
(Shoutout to person who told me prior to season that Colombo wouldn't work out.) #NYG
'Crash must have called the guy a cocksucker.
'Mmm...he's so romantic.'
Great movie
Bull Durham - ( New Window )
I do too, although I don't think we should sugarcoat this in terms of the timing and the way it went down. Whether Judge or Colombo brought it to a head, I don't think it helps a bunch of rookies to have their position coach fired mid-season. Better to have an orderly transition.
But if that wasn't in the cards here, so be it.
So WTF changed to good for Judge. I still don't know how to feel about this team right now, but the last few weeks are the first time in a few years I have felt good about the future of this team. Even after McAdoo's fist year, I didn't feel confident in the team. Right now, I do. Judge is in full control and holding everyone accountable. It's great.
As for Thomas, I remember a few weeks back his college coach was quoted about him not doing what they taught him and what made him a first round pick. So, what I haven't seen here (maybe I missed it) is what made him go back to his Georgia technique? Was it on his own? Did that interview with the Georgia coach make an impact? Is that Judge's doing also?
All this crap came from Paul Alexander who has a major ax to grind with Columbo. Who knew offensive line coaches were all a bunch of Mary’s?
This all comes to the fact Judge had to work with the offensive line, wanted to bring in an assistant, Columbo took it like the asshole he apparently is, and Judge fired him because their relationship was over. All this stuff about his “Georgia technique” is a bunch of unsubstantiated fluff. That Bobby Skinner guy has broken this down.