Hate to say it but... it's not a huge loss. 20 million off the books, McNeil likely better at 2b than 3b. On paper Davis likely the starting 3b (or Gimenez/Rosario up the middle) but figure they will add someone. It's risky, but I've seen some places suggest Ha-seong Kim can handle 3B, he's intriguing , obviously Arenado also out there.
20 million for @Mets to work with, McNeil slides over to 2b
Or it allows a way to keep Rosario and Gimenez in the line-up at one time.
Find it hard to believe Rosario, given the season he had is being penciled into the starting lineup at a position he's never played before. More likely McNeil slides over to 2b.
His bat was a plus, but pretty sure I'd rather have that extra $20m to spend. Wouldn't be surprised if Cohen sent someone to inject PEDs into Robbie in his sleep.
What the hell are they going to do with a 40 year old player making $20+ mil/year coming off an entire year suspension? Why even bother with drugs at this point? Suck the next 3 years and take your money; there's no contract after this one.
McNeil to 2nd, which is fine, Cano loses his salary, which frees up a ton of $ for the Mets (20 million?) and the likelihood of his duplicating his 2020 numbers for 150ish games without injury were not huge.
has 82 career starts at 3b over 10 MLB seasons. Not saying I wouldn't look into him but he's really not a 3b.
Play him at 2B and McNeil at 3B. Trade Gimenez plus for Lindor. Sign Realmuto. Best Mets IF since 99.
Not that I'm against such a plan but I suspect they will look to move McNeil to 2b and keep him there long-term. It was only 9 games but McNeil really struggled (I'd personally be fine with him at 3b) but his arm will always be? They should look into Arenado as the Rockies will want out from his salary. He's one of the best defensive 3b ever.
Outs Above Average numbers. Since 2017 (the starting point of when they measure) - Mets rank 2nd to last in Infield Outs Above Average at -44. Only the Yankees have been worse by this measure. Mets are 3rd to last in OAA for all positions in the same timespan.
Also worth noting that Arenado has been first in OAA since 2018 at 3rd, and Gimenez was 2nd in shortstop OAA in the short 2020 season. McNeil was 15th in 2nd Base OAA the last time he played there consistently in 2018 (short season for him, too) - the fact that he's been moved around likely makes this a little less useful.
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Suspensions resulting in the forfeiture of salary are considered a "special covenant" to the Uniform Player Contract....which do result in the removal of said salary from the Competitive Balance Tax Payroll calculation.
the Mets are about 69.4 million under the lux tax. Which means they can likely sign add 2 "BIG" salaries and then fill the holes around them. Hypothetically Bauer/Springer for say 46 million in new salary for 2021, leaving them 23 million for C, bullpen etc.
I suspect we get at least 1 big signing and 1 big $ add via trade
and there could be multiple of both. I think they are going to really work the trade market to extra some prospects in return for salary relief to replenish the damage BVW and the Wilpons did the past couple years.
Lindor, Arenado, Cain, Yu all seem like trade possibilities (obviously at various trade costs).
JTR, Springer, Bauer all FA possibilities.
Hopefully Sandy does a good job choosing the right guy to choose the right guys.
the record a writer told me that he's heard from a few sources that Cohen vowed to stay under the luxury tax. Now he may eventually go over, but I find it very hard to believe it will be this year. 69.4 million is more than enough to work with.
the record a writer told me that he's heard from a few sources that Cohen vowed to stay under the luxury tax. Now he may eventually go over, but I find it very hard to believe it will be this year. 69.4 million is more than enough to work with.
Agreed - exceeding it this year just isn't necessary.
They could get JTR (25), Hand (8), and maybe a salary dump like Cain (17) and still have almost $20m left to spend on SP. And that's before they ship out any salary - even if it's a smaller salary like Rosario or JDD.
That's sort of the base level offseason I'm expecting. More than that seems overly optimistic and anything less than that would be surprisingly light.
2nd suspension is not for a “season”
Wonder how it affects him if they only get in 100 games this season, or something like that...
I think they were going to ship him out this offseason anyway as dead salary in return for someone else's salary problem - so that's what I'd still predict. Now there's just less salary to ship out.
I'm pretty confident that the use of Cohen's $ Sandy would be most excited to utilize is getting rid of the mess he inherited from BVW.
Before or after Seattle contract. I ask because if it was prior, there very well could be language in that contract that a PED suspension is a breach and voids remainder of contract. Not sure if players union allows those clauses or not but seems like something a team would certainly try to include if there was a history.
Agreed. If only they could get out of the other two years of his contract...
Or it allows a way to keep Rosario and Gimenez in the line-up at one time.
2 more after this one.. yeah... quite the trade lol
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20 million for @Mets to work with, McNeil slides over to 2b
Or it allows a way to keep Rosario and Gimenez in the line-up at one time.
Find it hard to believe Rosario, given the season he had is being penciled into the starting lineup at a position he's never played before. More likely McNeil slides over to 2b.
TWO more years (thru 2023)
And getting Cano's salary off the books is a blessing, considering that contract was un-tradeable.
Crazy - this guy was a shoe-in for Cooperstown without these two suspensions.
Alonso to DH, Dom to 1B, Gimenez, Rosario and McNeil 2B/SS/3B or someone like Arenado/Bryant at 3B (if they decide to make a trade).
OF of Conforto, Springer (FA signing) and Nimmo
defensive catcher
Add Bauer or another SP2 (Darvish?), and a BP arm and let's roll.
not much wish list in there, lol
Won't complain about McNeil - Lindor - Gimenez - Smith either.
Man, what a lucky break with Cano.
The Mets now are roughly 74 million under the luxury tax threshold meaning they can pretty comfortably at least 2 big salaries if not 3.
The Mets now are roughly 74 million under the luxury tax threshold meaning they can pretty comfortably at least 2 big salaries if not 3.
and of course McNeil, which many people feel is his most natural position.
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There goes his HOF chances...
Don't do the crime if you can't pay the time...
One door closes, another opens...
Nolan Arenado (shoulder issue and all)....15 DRS in 2020...15...48 games... 15 runs saved. +7 OAA, complete monster at 3b
Very limited 3b experience, might not be the ideal fit if they prefer moving McNeil to 2b.
LOL!
Yeesh though...
Play him at 2B and McNeil at 3B. Trade Gimenez plus for Lindor. Sign Realmuto. Best Mets IF since 99.
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has 82 career starts at 3b over 10 MLB seasons. Not saying I wouldn't look into him but he's really not a 3b.
Play him at 2B and McNeil at 3B. Trade Gimenez plus for Lindor. Sign Realmuto. Best Mets IF since 99.
Not that I'm against such a plan but I suspect they will look to move McNeil to 2b and keep him there long-term. It was only 9 games but McNeil really struggled (I'd personally be fine with him at 3b) but his arm will always be? They should look into Arenado as the Rockies will want out from his salary. He's one of the best defensive 3b ever.
Also worth noting that Arenado has been first in OAA since 2018 at 3rd, and Gimenez was 2nd in shortstop OAA in the short 2020 season. McNeil was 15th in 2nd Base OAA the last time he played there consistently in 2018 (short season for him, too) - the fact that he's been moved around likely makes this a little less useful.
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Suspensions resulting in the forfeiture of salary are considered a "special covenant" to the Uniform Player Contract....which do result in the removal of said salary from the Competitive Balance Tax Payroll calculation.
Move on to another, better option!
Lindor, Arenado, Cain, Yu all seem like trade possibilities (obviously at various trade costs).
JTR, Springer, Bauer all FA possibilities.
Hopefully Sandy does a good job choosing the right guy to choose the right guys.
I would agree with that, 2nd time he has got 'popped'
for PED's.
Agreed - exceeding it this year just isn't necessary.
They could get JTR (25), Hand (8), and maybe a salary dump like Cain (17) and still have almost $20m left to spend on SP. And that's before they ship out any salary - even if it's a smaller salary like Rosario or JDD.
That's sort of the base level offseason I'm expecting. More than that seems overly optimistic and anything less than that would be surprisingly light.
Wonder how it affects him if they only get in 100 games this season, or something like that...
Wonder how it affects him if they only get in 100 games this season, or something like that...
I think they were going to ship him out this offseason anyway as dead salary in return for someone else's salary problem - so that's what I'd still predict. Now there's just less salary to ship out.
I'm pretty confident that the use of Cohen's $ Sandy would be most excited to utilize is getting rid of the mess he inherited from BVW.
Wonder how it affects him if they only get in 100 games this season, or something like that...
You mean the "162 games" vs "a season"?
Burger Bar ?