It is obvious that the latest improvement on the offensive line was the result of Joe Judge getting directly involved, not Colombo's teaching. So, if anything I think the line will continue to get better now that everybody is on the same page.
What exactly does the OL coach do during a game and how long should it take the Duge to get up to speed? Assuming he actually ‘started’ last week, he has to learn the players, skill sets, the play book & formations, game plans, schemes, adjustments, etc. So can he contribute and / or control in only 2+ weeks or is it going to take longer? Thanks.
What exactly does the OL coach do during a game and how long should it take the Duge to get up to speed? Assuming he actually ‘started’ last week, he has to learn the players, skill sets, the play book & formations, game plans, schemes, adjustments, etc. So can he contribute and / or control in only 2+ weeks or is it going to take longer? Thanks.
A coach with DeGuglielmo's experience can watch film and in a day or two see what each guy is doing wrong and where they need help. It will take longer on personalities. And while the individual plays may have different names, they are still the same basic blocking techniques. Pass blocking is pass blocking. How Garrett sees the run blocks being set up should not take long. There is nothing new under the Sun, just terminology.
I doubt a regression. Changes in technique and/or scheme have resulted
In improvement. If DeG is only brought in to continue to teach what Judge wants and frees up Judge to focus elsewhere, that’s still a good thing.
And Judge is not going to dump this in Garrett’s and DeG’s lockers and leave them to work it out themselves. He is going to make sure they understand what he wants.
Garrett should be and has been enjoying the credit for offensive improvement. I’m sure his support for Colombo was enough to get him hired but I doubt he demanded that Colombo should be hired. Garrett changed o-line coaches and coordinators a lot at Dallas. He also kept his head down and kept his job so he isn’t going to make a lot of noise about this situation.
If you told me Hal Hunter was coming back, I would say regression is likely.
Will get better. Coaches will be on the same page. Less mixed messages which will be great especially for the young players who are still trying to master the pro game
The line was improving once Judge got involved. This new coach is obviously trusted by Judge so I’m sure he will be coaching them up quite nicely....unlike what Colombo was doing.
On a side note, I don’t think Garrett is in any way upset with Judge for how this played out. Garrett, of all people, knows the pressure and demands of being a HC. I’m sure he knows it is Judge’s head on the line and that Judge is responsible to do what needs to be done to be successful. Plus, I’m sure he got Colombo the job so he did his part. It’s not his fault Colombo’s pride and ego got him fired.
Lastly, I’m sure Garrett wants the offense to run smoothly, because that makes him look good. Everyone knows the bad OL play of the first 6 weeks deeply affected our offense, which made Garrett look bad. I’m sure Garrett noticed the change when Judge got involved with the OL. I bet he feels sorry for even going to bat for Colombo.
and that's why judge stepped in, to coach the unit himself and hired a consultant he trusted to take over in that regard. if they regress over the rest of the season i'll be surprised.
Worked with him 2 years in New England, interviewed him, spoke with him and was going to hire him as a consultant anyway, which lead to Columbo thinking he was being undermined, so obviously there was a disagreement between Columbo and Judge and an agreement between him and DeGuglielmo, now Judge has the voice he wants there, this should help a lot in the shorterm.
IMO here's the best explanation of why the change was made
“It’s different,” Colombo said last week. “In Dallas, you had a couple of Hall of Famers, a perennial Pro Bowler, that type of deal. It was just about getting those guys the right amount of reps in every practice so they were ready and confident going into a game. Here, it’s every little tiny detail. You don’t take anything for granted.”
Hopefully the next change is at OC so Judge can get his own guy in there too. It's pretty obvious the Mara's hired Garrett and Garrett pushed to hire Columbo. It also seems Judge has gotten more involved with the details on the entire offense including play design and play calling.
...Columbo's firing at a time when the line was improving indicates either a undisclosed firable offense or at the least - poor chemistry between the coach and the players.
I haven't heard any complaints from the players - if they're good with it, than safe bet that losing Columbo is a consensus improvement.
If this backfires? If the firing was unjustified, and the line regresses, it could be the end of Judge.
Believing that the giants OL was solely built on the coaching of Colombo and it’s now going to just collapse with his departure. I ain’t giving any position coach that much credit let alone Colombo.
Giants entire team is playing because the players have had 3-4 full months now to absorb everything and Judge’s influence is taking hold. Colombo May have helped to some extent I won’t say he didn’t at all but let’s slow down on how much impact he had here.
is important, too. If the players relate better with D, that's a plus. If the players related better with C than they will with D, that's a minus.
I think caution is advised before putting too much credit on Judge for improved line play. He might have been heavily involved recently and the key, or he might have stopped in the OL meeting to say hi, and a mountain is being made out of a molehill. I don't think we really know, at this point.
I think that IF Judge was getting involved and at odds with C, that would be bad for the players, having to satisfy both bosses. If Judge and D are on the same wavelength, that should lead to better chemistry all around. In this regards, it's probably better C was dumped. Introducing yet another fly in the ointment was a disaster waiting to happen.
I would hope that Judge and D are wise enough to have continuity and merely tweak the system, rather than attempting a full revamp in mid season.
A coach with DeGuglielmo's experience can watch film and in a day or two see what each guy is doing wrong and where they need help. It will take longer on personalities. And while the individual plays may have different names, they are still the same basic blocking techniques. Pass blocking is pass blocking. How Garrett sees the run blocks being set up should not take long. There is nothing new under the Sun, just terminology.
And Judge is not going to dump this in Garrett’s and DeG’s lockers and leave them to work it out themselves. He is going to make sure they understand what he wants.
Garrett should be and has been enjoying the credit for offensive improvement. I’m sure his support for Colombo was enough to get him hired but I doubt he demanded that Colombo should be hired. Garrett changed o-line coaches and coordinators a lot at Dallas. He also kept his head down and kept his job so he isn’t going to make a lot of noise about this situation.
If you told me Hal Hunter was coming back, I would say regression is likely.
The bye week should help.
I assume that there won't be any drastic changes to the coaching, but who knows.
On a side note, I don’t think Garrett is in any way upset with Judge for how this played out. Garrett, of all people, knows the pressure and demands of being a HC. I’m sure he knows it is Judge’s head on the line and that Judge is responsible to do what needs to be done to be successful. Plus, I’m sure he got Colombo the job so he did his part. It’s not his fault Colombo’s pride and ego got him fired.
Lastly, I’m sure Garrett wants the offense to run smoothly, because that makes him look good. Everyone knows the bad OL play of the first 6 weeks deeply affected our offense, which made Garrett look bad. I’m sure Garrett noticed the change when Judge got involved with the OL. I bet he feels sorry for even going to bat for Colombo.
Garrett bleeds blue too, you know!
Hopefully the next change is at OC so Judge can get his own guy in there too. It's pretty obvious the Mara's hired Garrett and Garrett pushed to hire Columbo. It also seems Judge has gotten more involved with the details on the entire offense including play design and play calling.
I haven't heard any complaints from the players - if they're good with it, than safe bet that losing Columbo is a consensus improvement.
If this backfires? If the firing was unjustified, and the line regresses, it could be the end of Judge.
Giants entire team is playing because the players have had 3-4 full months now to absorb everything and Judge’s influence is taking hold. Colombo May have helped to some extent I won’t say he didn’t at all but let’s slow down on how much impact he had here.
You just described Colombo as well
I think caution is advised before putting too much credit on Judge for improved line play. He might have been heavily involved recently and the key, or he might have stopped in the OL meeting to say hi, and a mountain is being made out of a molehill. I don't think we really know, at this point.
I think that IF Judge was getting involved and at odds with C, that would be bad for the players, having to satisfy both bosses. If Judge and D are on the same wavelength, that should lead to better chemistry all around. In this regards, it's probably better C was dumped. Introducing yet another fly in the ointment was a disaster waiting to happen.
I would hope that Judge and D are wise enough to have continuity and merely tweak the system, rather than attempting a full revamp in mid season.