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Chris L. : 11/20/2020 8:00 am
I believe negotiations can start at 6:00pm today...I think I have that right. Let the madness begin!!!!!
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i could see this as the starting lineup  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 6:42 pm : link
Rivers, Burks, Rj, Toppin, Mitch...Ball in Rjs hands with shooters around him..
Call it what you want  
ghost718 : 11/22/2020 6:53 pm : link
Leon's either trolling,building himself an army,or he doesn't much to choose from(Klutch,CAA,Kentucky)

or a combination of a few
And $100m  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 7:01 pm : link
To spend next year and we will do worse than this year. This hurts but necessary I guess.
So next year's first  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:02 pm : link
Is between Kentucky's BJ Boston or Terrence Clarke which ever one signs with CCA first.
Now we made a trade?  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 7:02 pm : link
I think
RE: Now we made a trade?  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15054159 Carl in CT said:
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I think


Ed Davis to Minnesota for Omari Spellman, Jacob Evans II and a second round pick
More 2nds  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:03 pm : link

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Minnesota is trading Omari Spellman and Jacob Evans and a future second-round pick to New York for F Ed Davis, sources tell ESPN
Ed Davis might be my favorite Knick  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:08 pm : link
Got two 2nd and 2 young former late first players for him
He wasn’t far from being our longest tenured  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 7:10 pm : link
Knick also.
I was less than enthused by the Rivers signing...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/22/2020 7:10 pm : link
Then I saw his career free throw numbers.

Is this really the best we can do?
RE: RE: These NBA max contracts are getting out of hand. 40M per for  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:11 pm : link
In comment 15054112 nygiants16 said:
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Tatum? Fox too? Thank god the Knicks have nobody to give it to. He’s maybe a top 20 player. Is he going to carry a team to a championship? I doubt it. Do fans pay to see him play? Prob not many.

That’s half a mil a game, if the team doesn’t rest him. Or 170$ per second. I don’t begrudge football players from getting big money because of the physical demand and contracts are not guaranteed, or baseball players because of the grind and, well, hitting a baseball is damn hard.

You think Conley has earned half the money on his contract? Simply absurd.



Tatum is 100% a max player..

Mitchell 100% a max player..

Fox is a little questionable but you habe to max him


I love Fox's game. I have no qualms about giving him max $. And obviously Tatum & Mitchell are max guys as well.
& saying Tatum isn't top 20 is LOL.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:12 pm : link
Dude is a stud.
RE: Ed Davis might be my favorite Knick  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15054165 larryflower37 said:
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Got two 2nd and 2 young former late first players for him


3 2nds for ed davis
Take on a dump and turn it into assets.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2020 7:17 pm : link
Exactly what people wanted. Might do it again with Javale McGee.
RE: Take on a dump and turn it into assets.  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15054179 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Exactly what people wanted. Might do it again with Javale McGee.


We will own the second round!
Actually got me thinking...top 20 in the NBA right now...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:23 pm : link
in no particular order...LBJ, Giannis, Luca, Harden, AD, Kawhi, Tatum, The Joker, Curry, Dame, Butler, Embiid, Simmons, Butler, KD, Mitchell, Kyrie, Zion, Booker, & Beal.
oh and fkr people who hate caa  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 7:23 pm : link
Ed davis was CAA and trade for 2 non CAA guys lol..


Austin Rivers 3 years 10 million
RE: oh and fkr people who hate caa  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:24 pm : link
In comment 15054198 nygiants16 said:
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Ed davis was CAA and trade for 2 non CAA guys lol..


Austin Rivers 3 years 10 million


The AAV is not much, but 3 years!?!? For Rivers!?!? Why?
Improved player in Houston. Solid defender too.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2020 7:30 pm : link
I dont understand it from his perspective. Why lock into 3 years and make yourself a bargain.
RE: Improved player in Houston. Solid defender too.  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:33 pm : link
In comment 15054217 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I dont understand it from his perspective. Why lock into 3 years and make yourself a bargain.


I don't get it from either perspective. Why would Rivers be okay with 3M per and why would the Knicks want to give him a 3 year deal?
Javale McGee traded to Cleveland  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:38 pm : link
Guess he'll back up Drummond
RE: RE: Improved player in Houston. Solid defender too.  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:40 pm : link
In comment 15054228 Anakim said:
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I dont understand it from his perspective. Why lock into 3 years and make yourself a bargain.



I don't get it from either perspective. Why would Rivers be okay with 3M per and why would the Knicks want to give him a 3 year deal?


I don't think this hurts the Knicks at all.
It's a easy to move contract and if he works out he is locked up for very little.
It's a stupid move for Rivers who is his agent to talk him into that deal?
man, the Ed Davis era is over already  
Del Shofner : 11/22/2020 7:43 pm : link
- bummer.
RE: RE: RE: Improved player in Houston. Solid defender too.  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:43 pm : link
In comment 15054252 larryflower37 said:
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I dont understand it from his perspective. Why lock into 3 years and make yourself a bargain.



I don't get it from either perspective. Why would Rivers be okay with 3M per and why would the Knicks want to give him a 3 year deal?



I don't think this hurts the Knicks at all.
It's a easy to move contract and if he works out he is locked up for very little.
It's a stupid move for Rivers who is his agent to talk him into that deal?


Doesn't hurt the Knicks really, but IDK why they would give Austin Rivers a three-year deal
Sounds like Marc Gasol will sign with the Lakers  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:44 pm : link
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Gasol signed with Lakers.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:45 pm : link
Damn you Marc.
I'm  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2020 7:45 pm : link
actually less upset with the Rivers deal now. I figured it was like 1 year 8 mil. This is one mil more than the vet min per year. Basically chump change. Now I'm not sure if Rivers is actually a good player, but the contract is negligible.
The Lakers have had a really good FA right now.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:46 pm : link
Dammit all to hell.
This is one guy the Knicks should definitely kick the tires on:  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:46 pm : link
Vincent Goodwill
@VinceGoodwill
The Pistons are expected to waive and stretch recent acquisition Zhaire Smith following trade for Tony Bradley, sources say
I think it's  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2020 7:48 pm : link
pretty clear that the Knicks don't value Frank and/or DSJ very highly. And maybe they shouldn't, but you dont bring in two vet stopgap PGs if you like the young options you have at the position.
Knicks still have 18 million in space  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 7:57 pm : link
Randle,Dsj, Frank a couple kf 2nds for Westbrook works under the cap..
Wow  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2020 7:59 pm : link
it gets better:

@IanBegley
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The final two years of Austin Rivers’ three-year deal with the Knicks are non-guaranteed, per SNY sources. He has a three-year, $10 million deal, ESPN reports.
Feels like cap guru Brock Aller  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2020 8:00 pm : link
is living up to his hype. We’ll see about the rest of the gang.
RE: Wow  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 8:00 pm : link
In comment 15054285 Jon in NYC said:
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it gets better:

@IanBegley
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The final two years of Austin Rivers’ three-year deal with the Knicks are non-guaranteed, per SNY sources. He has a three-year, $10 million deal, ESPN reports.



Uhhhh, does Austin Rivers have an agent? That's a terrible deal for him.
When you have LBJ and AD  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 8:01 pm : link
You tell all the free agents who you are taking. Very easy.
RE: man, the Ed Davis era is over already  
bubba0825 : 11/22/2020 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15054256 Del Shofner said:
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- bummer.


And I just ordered his jersey...damn
Cap Guru?  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 8:04 pm : link
We haven’t spent any money. A five year old could do his job this year. Whomever is calling the shots need to get rid of Randle and have someone eats Noah’s $6m for not only this year but next year. Then we need to put a team together.
Anyone have an idea  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 8:06 pm : link
How many future picks we have now? Years and rounds?
You cant trade the Noah salary.....  
Italianju : 11/22/2020 8:08 pm : link
And I’m sure trading randle is easier said then done. I
RE: Anyone have an idea  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 8:10 pm : link
In comment 15054300 Carl in CT said:
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How many future picks we have now? Years and rounds?


off the top of my head..

2 1sts in 21, 1 1st and 1 2nd 22, 2 1sts in 23 5 2nds 23 i believe
I would just Randle play it out  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 8:15 pm : link
We have the room and only $4m guaranteed next year so he might be in play around the deadline I believe.
They announced the Burkes signing  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 8:16 pm : link
will be interesting to see when they announce the Payton signing, if they wait, that means they are using the room exception and are planning on using the 23 million in space
16  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 8:20 pm : link
On the ball again.
Randle can be a deadline move  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 8:46 pm : link
Based on injuries,playoff push,etc.
Similar to Marcus Morris last season.

i like the spellman add....  
Italianju : 11/22/2020 8:58 pm : link
he has had some decent games when he gets minutes. Dont know much about Evans, but at least they are both young. And we literally gave up nothing.
RE: i like the spellman add....  
robbieballs2003 : 11/22/2020 9:08 pm : link
In comment 15054378 Italianju said:
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he has had some decent games when he gets minutes. Dont know much about Evans, but at least they are both young. And we literally gave up nothing.


There was a mention by Berman that we may waive both.
Would you make this trade??  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 11:46 pm : link
The Hypothetical Trade

Knicks Receive: Kemba Walker

Celtics Receive: Dennis Smith Jr., Julius Randle, 2021 1st Round Pick (via DAL), 2023 1st Round Pick (via DAL)


Trade idea - ( New Window )
Not exactly convinced Kemba is worth two firsts  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/23/2020 8:17 am : link
But they are just Dallas Firsts.
RE: Would you make this trade??  
Bill L : 11/23/2020 8:44 am : link
In comment 15054459 larryflower37 said:
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The Hypothetical Trade

Knicks Receive: Kemba Walker

Celtics Receive: Dennis Smith Jr., Julius Randle, 2021 1st Round Pick (via DAL), 2023 1st Round Pick (via DAL)
Trade idea - ( New Window )


Why would the Celtics do that?
RE: RE: Would you make this trade??  
djm : 11/23/2020 9:29 am : link
In comment 15054571 Bill L said:
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The Hypothetical Trade

Knicks Receive: Kemba Walker

Celtics Receive: Dennis Smith Jr., Julius Randle, 2021 1st Round Pick (via DAL), 2023 1st Round Pick (via DAL)
Trade idea - ( New Window )



Why would the Celtics do that?


Why it’s because they would be getting back the oh so talented Dennis Smith JR and all that potential.

Dennis Smith has ZERO value. As in NO value. He’s one more failed reclamation project away from being thrown out of the NBA for good. These articles and takes that reference Smith as someone who actually carries weight just kill me.
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