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Chris L. : 11/20/2020 8:00 am
I believe negotiations can start at 6:00pm today...I think I have that right. Let the madness begin!!!!!
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I doubt we'll get Kuzma  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2020 3:25 pm : link
It's likely just future 2nds. Better than nothing I suppose. Maybe they can get a late first. Would honestly shoot for one in 2025 when Lebron will be retired.
RE: RE: There is the salary dump  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15053910 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 15053903 larryflower37 said:


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The Knicks have emerged as a potential trade partner for the Lakers in a JaVale McGee deal, league sources say, as LA explores its various options

If talks progress, New York would surely require at least one additional asset from the Lakers to take McGee into salary-cap space



Haha. McGee has the talent of a top pick and the basketball IQ of a 5 year old.


Looks like a 3 team sign and trade for Gasol and Knicks would pick up a 2nd
I saw a quote the other day that was funny.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/22/2020 3:30 pm : link
The Knicks accumulate 2nd round picks like the OKC accumulate 1st round picks.
RE: Team is gonna stink  
djm : 11/22/2020 3:32 pm : link
In comment 15053687 ghost718 said:
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We like to sit back and say "Glad the Knicks didn't do that",and they may have been overpays,but pretty soon those teams will surpass the Knicks. They're gonna start waving bye bye to the Knicks in the lottery.Because no matter the financial terms,they're still improving.


Can you post anything insightful?
RE: I saw a quote the other day that was funny.  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15053922 robbieballs2003 said:
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The Knicks accumulate 2nd round picks like the OKC accumulate 1st round picks.


Building G-league championships!
RE: RE: Team is gonna stink  
ghost718 : 11/22/2020 3:38 pm : link
In comment 15053925 djm said:
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Can you post anything insightful?


What exactly do you think you add to this site
RE: RE: RE: Team is gonna stink  
djm : 11/22/2020 3:40 pm : link
In comment 15053938 ghost718 said:
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In comment 15053925 djm said:


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Can you post anything insightful?



What exactly do you think you add to this site


When you cook a fried egg make sure to poke the white part and let it spread out so the white part isn’t runny and weird while the yolk is a little runny.

I added that. You shit on the Knicks. Every post. That’s old.
Yeah well  
ghost718 : 11/22/2020 3:42 pm : link
They deserve it
RE: Yeah well  
djm : 11/22/2020 3:48 pm : link
In comment 15053943 ghost718 said:
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They deserve it


But dude it’s every post and we know they suck. You’re also assuming things. Hey whatever makes you feel better but you don’t know that rose will fail here. This last weekend doesn’t cement anything. Ok they didn’t get anyone but, so, we should pack up and quit?


Changing gears I still can’t process that so many here advocated getting Haywood but treat Westbrook like a leper. I could live with 2 years for Haywood but holy fucking shit 4 years well over 100 mil? Christ... that dude is a physical wreck lately. Whatever works...
You  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2020 4:01 pm : link
know who I'm also getting excited about is Immanuel Quickley. Gets to the line a bunch where he shoots 92%, 42% from 3 on a high number of attempts, not a great athlete but was their top defender towards the end of the year, which I didn't know -- figured it was Maxey.

Don't think he'll ever be a premier starter, but could be really great as a role player. 3/D guy with upside.
RE: RE: Yeah well  
ghost718 : 11/22/2020 4:07 pm : link
In comment 15053951 djm said:
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But dude it’s every post and we know they suck. You’re also assuming things. Hey whatever makes you feel better but you don’t know that rose will fail here. This last weekend doesn’t cement anything. Ok they didn’t get anyone but, so, we should pack up and quit?


Doesn't make me feel better,not in the least.Ultimately what's gonna happen here is it's gonna be up to the fans,because Dolan is not gonna do shit.He's too stubborn and spiteful to help you,and too rich for the league to intervene.
Dolan is a turd  
djm : 11/22/2020 4:20 pm : link
But we’ve seen shitty owners win before and we’ll see shitty owners win again. And Dolan spends money so he’s not too shitty. Knicks need to develop and find players. Hopefully this regime can do that.

None of us could ever shit on the Knicks  
Greg from LI : 11/22/2020 4:53 pm : link
As much as they shit on their fans
Tatum reups with  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 5:15 pm : link
Cs for 5 years, $195 million.
The irony is that fans love tanking..  
Sean : 11/22/2020 5:25 pm : link
The issue is no star FA is coming to a shitty team. The Knicks will have another 15-25 win season and need to cross their fingers that they hit on the lotto AND draft an impact player. Then they will need to win and turn they will be in the convo for a star to come here.

They are forever away from contending.
RE: The irony is that fans love tanking..  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 5:26 pm : link
In comment 15054071 Sean said:
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The issue is no star FA is coming to a shitty team. The Knicks will have another 15-25 win season and need to cross their fingers that they hit on the lotto AND draft an impact player. Then they will need to win and turn they will be in the convo for a star to come here.

They are forever away from contending.


You need RJ, Toppin and Mitch to show their potential..
RE: The irony is that fans love tanking..  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 5:44 pm : link
In comment 15054071 Sean said:
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The issue is no star FA is coming to a shitty team. The Knicks will have another 15-25 win season and need to cross their fingers that they hit on the lotto AND draft an impact player. Then they will need to win and turn they will be in the convo for a star to come here.

They are forever away from contending.

Don't have to hit the lottery just find a superstar in the draft.
Toppin and RJ could be those guys Also next year's draft is expected to be loaded with talent.
Keep adding 1st round picks and roll the dice.
That is today's NBA.
These NBA max contracts are getting out of hand. 40M per for  
Jim in Hoboken : 11/22/2020 5:46 pm : link
Tatum? Fox too? Thank god the Knicks have nobody to give it to. He’s maybe a top 20 player. Is he going to carry a team to a championship? I doubt it. Do fans pay to see him play? Prob not many.

That’s half a mil a game, if the team doesn’t rest him. Or 170$ per second. I don’t begrudge football players from getting big money because of the physical demand and contracts are not guaranteed, or baseball players because of the grind and, well, hitting a baseball is damn hard.

You think Conley has earned half the money on his contract? Simply absurd.
You keep drafting until you get a real hit.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2020 5:52 pm : link
And you stop trading your players away.

Fred Van Vleet was undrafted. Tyler Herro was pick 13. Bam Adebayo was pick 14. You can develop core players in the draft. You don't need to just win the lottery and draft top 3 to have a future.
WOJ  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 6:05 pm : link
Free agent Austin Rivers has agreed to deal with Knicks, source tells ESPN.
He sucks.  
Jon in NYC : 11/22/2020 6:07 pm : link
At first glance this is the first one i really haven’t liked.
1 year deal.  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 6:09 pm : link
I am not a fan and not sure where he fits?
RE: He sucks.  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 6:10 pm : link
In comment 15054094 Jon in NYC said:
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At first glance this is the first one i really haven’t liked.


He has been pretty good for Houston past couple of years
They should just trade Frank at this point.  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2020 6:13 pm : link
They’re willing to play just about anyone ahead of him, and Quickley is probably going to be what we hoped Frank would be.
I like the Rivers signing..  
Sean : 11/22/2020 6:15 pm : link
1 year deal, if he’s good he can fetch an asset at the deadline.
So the Guards  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 6:15 pm : link
Rivers, Burks, Payton, Bullock, Frank, Quickley,Dsj..

Feel like a trade is coming, wonder if Thibs plays him as a point guard
RE: These NBA max contracts are getting out of hand. 40M per for  
Enzo : 11/22/2020 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15054084 Jim in Hoboken said:
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Tatum? Fox too? Thank god the Knicks have nobody to give it to. He’s maybe a top 20 player. Is he going to carry a team to a championship? I doubt it. Do fans pay to see him play? Prob not many.

That’s half a mil a game, if the team doesn’t rest him. Or 170$ per second. I don’t begrudge football players from getting big money because of the physical demand and contracts are not guaranteed, or baseball players because of the grind and, well, hitting a baseball is damn hard.

You think Conley has earned half the money on his contract? Simply absurd.

so who should get the money? The owners? It's a more a function of the rosters being smaller compared to other sports. And of course there are the players who get the max who are actually underpaid.
RE: These NBA max contracts are getting out of hand. 40M per for  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15054084 Jim in Hoboken said:
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Tatum? Fox too? Thank god the Knicks have nobody to give it to. He’s maybe a top 20 player. Is he going to carry a team to a championship? I doubt it. Do fans pay to see him play? Prob not many.

That’s half a mil a game, if the team doesn’t rest him. Or 170$ per second. I don’t begrudge football players from getting big money because of the physical demand and contracts are not guaranteed, or baseball players because of the grind and, well, hitting a baseball is damn hard.

You think Conley has earned half the money on his contract? Simply absurd.


Tatum is 100% a max player..

Mitchell 100% a max player..

Fox is a little questionable but you habe to max him
RE: You  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15053965 Jon in NYC said:
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know who I'm also getting excited about is Immanuel Quickley. Gets to the line a bunch where he shoots 92%, 42% from 3 on a high number of attempts, not a great athlete but was their top defender towards the end of the year, which I didn't know -- figured it was Maxey.

Don't think he'll ever be a premier starter, but could be really great as a role player. 3/D guy with upside.


Came across this draft profile, pretty in-depth look. Might turn out to be a steal.
Quickley draft profile - ( New Window )
I'm just here for Greg's reaction to the Rivers signing  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 6:28 pm : link
.
Always hated Rivers  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 6:30 pm : link
But fairness he got better last year. You have to admit that.
The CAA thing is already annoying by the media  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 6:31 pm : link
..
It’s amazing  
bceagle05 : 11/22/2020 6:35 pm : link
how consistently terrible the Knicks’ guard play is year in and year out. They ditch Trier, Dotson and Ellington and still manage to get worse. Have to hope Quickley steals minutes from these turkeys. But it beats the alternative of a panic move.
i could see this as the starting lineup  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 6:42 pm : link
Rivers, Burks, Rj, Toppin, Mitch...Ball in Rjs hands with shooters around him..
Call it what you want  
ghost718 : 11/22/2020 6:53 pm : link
Leon's either trolling,building himself an army,or he doesn't much to choose from(Klutch,CAA,Kentucky)

or a combination of a few
And $100m  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 7:01 pm : link
To spend next year and we will do worse than this year. This hurts but necessary I guess.
So next year's first  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:02 pm : link
Is between Kentucky's BJ Boston or Terrence Clarke which ever one signs with CCA first.
Now we made a trade?  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 7:02 pm : link
I think
RE: Now we made a trade?  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15054159 Carl in CT said:
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I think


Ed Davis to Minnesota for Omari Spellman, Jacob Evans II and a second round pick
More 2nds  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:03 pm : link

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Minnesota is trading Omari Spellman and Jacob Evans and a future second-round pick to New York for F Ed Davis, sources tell ESPN
Ed Davis might be my favorite Knick  
larryflower37 : 11/22/2020 7:08 pm : link
Got two 2nd and 2 young former late first players for him
He wasn’t far from being our longest tenured  
Carl in CT : 11/22/2020 7:10 pm : link
Knick also.
I was less than enthused by the Rivers signing...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/22/2020 7:10 pm : link
Then I saw his career free throw numbers.

Is this really the best we can do?
RE: RE: These NBA max contracts are getting out of hand. 40M per for  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:11 pm : link
In comment 15054112 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 15054084 Jim in Hoboken said:


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Tatum? Fox too? Thank god the Knicks have nobody to give it to. He’s maybe a top 20 player. Is he going to carry a team to a championship? I doubt it. Do fans pay to see him play? Prob not many.

That’s half a mil a game, if the team doesn’t rest him. Or 170$ per second. I don’t begrudge football players from getting big money because of the physical demand and contracts are not guaranteed, or baseball players because of the grind and, well, hitting a baseball is damn hard.

You think Conley has earned half the money on his contract? Simply absurd.



Tatum is 100% a max player..

Mitchell 100% a max player..

Fox is a little questionable but you habe to max him


I love Fox's game. I have no qualms about giving him max $. And obviously Tatum & Mitchell are max guys as well.
& saying Tatum isn't top 20 is LOL.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:12 pm : link
Dude is a stud.
RE: Ed Davis might be my favorite Knick  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15054165 larryflower37 said:
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Got two 2nd and 2 young former late first players for him


3 2nds for ed davis
Take on a dump and turn it into assets.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2020 7:17 pm : link
Exactly what people wanted. Might do it again with Javale McGee.
RE: Take on a dump and turn it into assets.  
Anakim : 11/22/2020 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15054179 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Exactly what people wanted. Might do it again with Javale McGee.


We will own the second round!
Actually got me thinking...top 20 in the NBA right now...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:23 pm : link
in no particular order...LBJ, Giannis, Luca, Harden, AD, Kawhi, Tatum, The Joker, Curry, Dame, Butler, Embiid, Simmons, Butler, KD, Mitchell, Kyrie, Zion, Booker, & Beal.
oh and fkr people who hate caa  
nygiants16 : 11/22/2020 7:23 pm : link
Ed davis was CAA and trade for 2 non CAA guys lol..


Austin Rivers 3 years 10 million
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