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Chris L. : 11/20/2020 8:00 am
I believe negotiations can start at 6:00pm today...I think I have that right. Let the madness begin!!!!!
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Now that Gallo signed with hawks  
GMEN46 : 11/20/2020 9:25 pm : link
Is it safe to assume knicks are the only team that can offer bogdonovic? How about Randle and bullock for bogdonovic at $28 mil per
Year. Sign Hayward and sign and trade dennis smith jr for van fleet

PG - FVV
SG - Bogdnovic
SF Barrett
PF Toppin
C - Mitch

Hayward would start  
GMEN46 : 11/20/2020 9:26 pm : link
Barrett or toppin off the bench
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NoGainDayne : 11/20/2020 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15052673 Jon in NYC said:
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Shams Charania
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Restricted free agent Malik Beasley (@Mbeasy5
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Damn, 15MM isn't crazy. I probably would have done this.


Yeah but we already know they match $15M which I guess means they would probably match ~$20M

IMO they should tell him to wait on FVV and if he didn't come to NY they would give him 2/$50M

My one issue with FVV is he wants to stay in Toronto so you'd have to overpay to get him. And if I'm the Knicks I'm not sure staying bad for one more year wouldn't be a great thing. There are some bigger prospects at the top due next year and I think having say the #1 pick and another 1st rounder does more for you to recruit than FVV and coming in 8-10 in the conference and I'm really not sure we could do any better than that with our current roster.
Love the thread  
djm : 11/20/2020 9:43 pm : link
Thx for all the great up to date info. Can’t believe wood got that low a deal unless that was 27 mil per? And as stated it might not even be done yet. Wood doesn’t play any D and he’s been in the league a little while now so he scares me.

Wonder what the Knicks are up to. Rose and the rest have to have some good intel with all their connections.
Lakers getting harrell  
Italianju : 11/20/2020 9:46 pm : link
For the full exception. Basically it’s a 1 year 10 mill deal. Rich get richer as usual
RE: Lakers getting harrell  
bceagle05 : 11/20/2020 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15052717 Italianju said:
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For the full exception. Basically it’s a 1 year 10 mill deal. Rich get richer as usual

Harrell represented by Rich Paul, of course.
RE: Lakers getting harrell  
Saquads26 : 11/20/2020 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15052717 Italianju said:
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For the full exception. Basically it’s a 1 year 10 mill deal. Rich get richer as usual


Yep Brian Windhorst
@WindhorstESPN
Montrezl Harrell is planning to sign with the Lakers for two years and $19 million with second season being a player option, agent Rich Paul tells ESPN
9:44 PM · Nov 20, 2020
Bertans back to Washington: 5/$80.  
bceagle05 : 11/20/2020 9:55 pm : link
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Knicks sign Alec burks  
Italianju : 11/20/2020 9:56 pm : link
1 year 6 mill. Not bad.
First one  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 9:56 pm : link
Free agent Alec Burks has agreed to a one-year, $6M deal with the New York Knicks, agent Alex Saratsis tells @ZachLowe_NBA and me.
Harrell is a really flawed player  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 11/20/2020 9:56 pm : link
His defense was exposed in the playoffs. Otherwise he definitely would've gotten a bigger payday. However, playing next to AD is going to really help hide those shortcomings against most teams.

I'm not in love with the move for the Lakers, but they have def improved their secondary scoring with Schroder + Harrell.

Clippers are in real trouble right now. They need to do something.
That’s a lot of money for bertans  
Italianju : 11/20/2020 9:58 pm : link
The average isn’t bad but 5 years. Yeesh.
RE: That’s a lot of money for bertans  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:00 pm : link
In comment 15052727 Italianju said:
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The average isn’t bad but 5 years. Yeesh.


16 million per is not bad but a year or 2 too long
Pistons are probably done now  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:02 pm : link
Free agent Jerami Grant has agreed to a three-year, $60 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Deal negotiated by agent Mike Kneisley.
Harris stay in brooklyn  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:03 pm : link
Free agent guard Joe Harris has agreed to a four-year, $75M deal to return to the Brooklyn Nets, his agent Mark Bartelstein @PrioritySports tells ESPN.
RE: Pistons are probably done now  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15052729 larryflower37 said:
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Free agent Jerami Grant has agreed to a three-year, $60 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Deal negotiated by agent Mike Kneisley.

Looks like they are letting Woods walk
RE: Harris stay in brooklyn  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 10:04 pm : link
In comment 15052731 larryflower37 said:
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Free agent guard Joe Harris has agreed to a four-year, $75M deal to return to the Brooklyn Nets, his agent Mark Bartelstein @PrioritySports tells ESPN.


That's insane.
Pistons roster looking like a total mess.  
bceagle05 : 11/20/2020 10:04 pm : link
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Jeremi grant  
UGADawgs7 : 11/20/2020 10:04 pm : link
3/60 Pistons
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Damn Joe Harris got paid  
Eric on Li : 11/20/2020 10:10 pm : link
was thinking he'd end up closer to 4x15m. Good for him though, made up for the discount he took last time.
RE: Pistons roster looking like a total mess.  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:10 pm : link
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Signed 4 forwards today.
Following the Knicks of last year
RE: RE: Pistons roster looking like a total mess.  
bceagle05 : 11/20/2020 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15052739 larryflower37 said:
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Signed 4 forwards today.
Following the Knicks of last year

Yep, but these are multi-year deals - at least the Knicks kept it to one year, other than Randle.
Wood got 3yr/$41 from the Rockets.  
bceagle05 : 11/20/2020 10:17 pm : link
That makes more sense, but still a pretty good bargain.
Derrick  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 10:23 pm : link
Jones going to the Blazers. Melo's definitely gone. Likely to the Knicks?
Keeps him away from NY  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:34 pm : link
As Rockets/Wizards talks on Russell Westbrook-for-John Wall stall, Wall has made it clear he wants trade out of Washington to happen, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
Probably  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 10:35 pm : link
nothing, but I wonder if part of the reason they brought on Burks was to give Hayward a friendly face, as they were teammates for six seasons.
Anyone want Wall? hahahaha  
nygiants16 : 11/20/2020 10:37 pm : link
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RE: Anyone want Wall? hahahaha  
Anakim : 11/20/2020 10:50 pm : link
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Sure...if they take back Randle and give us Avdija
Pistons are back in the game.  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:52 pm : link
Denver matched the three-year, $60M offer Jerami Grant received from Detroit. Grant enjoyed his time in Denver, and wanted enhanced offensive role with Pistons.
RE: RE: Anyone want Wall? hahahaha  
nygiants16 : 11/20/2020 10:53 pm : link
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Sure...if they take back Randle and give us Avdija



i would need 3 first round picks minimum..

Whats scary is hr has a connection to Wes
RE: RE: RE: Anyone want Wall? hahahaha  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15052771 nygiants16 said:
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Sure...if they take back Randle and give us Avdija




i would need 3 first round picks minimum..

Whats scary is hr has a connection to Wes


3 years for 150 million plus a 15% trade kicker for a 31 yr old PG that hasn't played in 3 years
I am going to need beal and 3 firsts
4 years 64 million.  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 11:00 pm : link
Free agent Marcus Morris has agreed to return to the Clippers, source tells ESPN.
RE: RE: RE: Anyone want Wall? hahahaha  
Anakim : 11/20/2020 11:04 pm : link
In comment 15052771 nygiants16 said:
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Sure...if they take back Randle and give us Avdija




i would need 3 first round picks minimum..

Whats scary is hr has a connection to Wes


And obviously with Payne and Quickley. I'm sure Wall has "mentored" Quickley.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Anyone want Wall? hahahaha  
Anakim : 11/20/2020 11:05 pm : link
In comment 15052772 larryflower37 said:
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Sure...if they take back Randle and give us Avdija




i would need 3 first round picks minimum..

Whats scary is hr has a connection to Wes



3 years for 150 million plus a 15% trade kicker for a 31 yr old PG that hasn't played in 3 years
I am going to need beal and 3 firsts


Haha, I didn't even know about the trade kicker. Geez, that's worse than the Westbrook contract.
Well, Mook was wise  
bceagle05 : 11/20/2020 11:08 pm : link
to bail on the Spurs last year after all. Worked out for us, too.
The holdup  
Spider43 : 11/20/2020 11:10 pm : link
With the sign and trade of Hayward to Indy is Boston wants Turner and either Warren or Oladipo. While Indy is countering with Turner and our old pal, McDermott. They continue to negotiate, according to Washburn.
It really  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 11:11 pm : link
seems like barring a falling apart of the Pacers/Celtics deal, it's another year for the Knicks of smaller one year contracts. Hopefully this bunch does better the last.

To be fair some of the contracts being thrown around right now are absurd, so I'm happy we didn't tie 80 mil to Davis Bertans.
RE: The holdup  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 11:11 pm : link
In comment 15052781 Spider43 said:
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With the sign and trade of Hayward to Indy is Boston wants Turner and either Warren or Oladipo. While Indy is countering with Turner and our old pal, McDermott. They continue to negotiate, according to Washburn.


Obviously Ainge thinking his shit doesn't stink is trying to get two starters for a guy who could easily walk for nothing.
RE: RE: The holdup  
Saquads26 : 11/20/2020 11:15 pm : link
In comment 15052783 Jon in NYC said:
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With the sign and trade of Hayward to Indy is Boston wants Turner and either Warren or Oladipo. While Indy is countering with Turner and our old pal, McDermott. They continue to negotiate, according to Washburn.



Obviously Ainge thinking his shit doesn't stink is trying to get two starters for a guy who could easily walk for nothing.


IND is over the cap and has no other way to get him. Ainge knows this
RE: It really  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15052782 Jon in NYC said:
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seems like barring a falling apart of the Pacers/Celtics deal, it's another year for the Knicks of smaller one year contracts. Hopefully this bunch does better the last.

To be fair some of the contracts being thrown around right now are absurd, so I'm happy we didn't tie 80 mil to Davis Bertans.


Still have hope for VanVleet.

RE: RE: It really  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15052785 larryflower37 said:
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seems like barring a falling apart of the Pacers/Celtics deal, it's another year for the Knicks of smaller one year contracts. Hopefully this bunch does better the last.

To be fair some of the contracts being thrown around right now are absurd, so I'm happy we didn't tie 80 mil to Davis Bertans.



Still have hope for VanVleet.


I don't. I think we would have heard something by now about at least interest or a meeting.
Woj just said on sportscenter  
nygiants16 : 11/20/2020 11:27 pm : link
he expects a lot more deals to go down tonight..

Also there are rumors the jrue bucks/NO trade is getting bigger and involves a 3rd team
RE: Woj just said on sportscenter  
UGADawgs7 : 11/20/2020 11:33 pm : link
In comment 15052792 nygiants16 said:
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he expects a lot more deals to go down tonight..

Also there are rumors the jrue bucks/NO trade is getting bigger and involves a 3rd team


Hmmm could it be NYK, giving up Randle for a PG?
Oh  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 11:36 pm : link
mean I hope this doesn't end up with us taking on Bledsoe's salary, or even worse giving up something to get it.
Bledsoe isn't a CAA guy,  
Jon in NYC : 11/20/2020 11:39 pm : link
but he did go to Kentucky.
Crazy money for Hayward.  
larryflower37 : 11/20/2020 11:52 pm : link
Marc Stein
Indiana remains Gordon Hayward's preferred destination, league sources say, which requires a sign-and-trade with the Celtics to net the former Butler star a deal estimated in the four-year, $100 million range
RE: Crazy money for Hayward.  
Anakim : 11/21/2020 12:17 am : link
In comment 15052800 larryflower37 said:
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Marc Stein
Indiana remains Gordon Hayward's preferred destination, league sources say, which requires a sign-and-trade with the Celtics to net the former Butler star a deal estimated in the four-year, $100 million range


So much for Macri...
Adams  
DanMetroMan : 11/21/2020 1:32 am : link
To NO
So  
UGADawgs7 : 11/21/2020 6:04 am : link
What is NYK plan? Are they continuing the rebuild or are they going for it?
I for one an loving this.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/21/2020 7:19 am : link
My top two goals for this team are to fix this culture (yes, that does mean start winning games too which may be tough) and to maintain our cap flexibility for next offseason. This is not the year to be spending big. I'm sure we'll still be left standing at the alter next year but you miss 100% of the chances you don't take. I cant imagine too many teams being able to fix multiple max money players next offseason. That is a huge selling point to FA. They get to pick their teammates. However, we know where we have fallen short in the past. It was our culture and the supporting cast. So, how do you fix that? The culture thing is tough because of decades of shitty handling of this team. But hopefully this new regime gets a better rep. Also, we need these kids to develop fast particularly Toppin and Barrett. I think that can be accomplished. That is why I said I would target 1 year vets this year like last year.

Now, if this all falls apart next offseason then we can do what we wanted to do this year and use our cap space to take on bad contracts and acquire assets. Teams will be way more willing next year with the FA available to give up better picks and assets to free up enough space to land the big fish. All we have to do is wait one more year to find out which path we will take.
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