On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
You really don’t know anything except what you read. Therefore I suggest that you should just trust our HC....it is arse on the line each and every week.
RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
The improvement coming when Judge got involved is what I’ve heard from several sources. All he wanted to do was hire a consultant to hold Colombo’s hand....his ego didn’t like that so there you go. He asked for it. You don’t cuss your boss out. I don’t think too many bosses do well with that.
good stories (can't have that) about improvement or bad stuff like Covid and this.. They went with this.
Clearly this stuff started a few weeks ago (and seems about the time former coaches of Thomas were commenting about technique changes here) and then culminated this week.
The Brady stuff is childish bullshit and yes, seems like that came from Colombo. I have zero way of knowing what was said or not said but, I will go with the HC who so far has done things very deliberately and very much by a process and I highly doubt he now decided to act personally to get a buddy brought on board and do something rash in the middle of the season. You disrespect you walk! Seems pretty simple to me.
Lets see how he handles it internally and publicly. He may look like a genius by the end of the season or this will be a terrible move. My take is MC was not his guy. Maybe he was Garretts guy. That makes we wonder how that dynamic will go. However the way Garrett handled Jerruh...this is nothing in comparison.
First a lot of dirty laundry being aired there about non-public conversations. The Brady stuff in particular sounds like agenda driven sour grapes without any relation to this situation. Clearly there was some kind of NE vs. non-NE hostility among the coaches - and given that the source of these sour grapes is likely the recently departed it seems all the more like he had to get fired. You can't have open hostility among leaders.
Second the most important thing from here forward is going to be the performance of the OL. Just as the most important thing this season was their improvement the last couple weeks (especially Thomas). Either Judge is self sabotaging or making the right decision for the team going forward. We've seen Judge make 100's of decisions big and small since he was hired - I wouldn't describe many if any as being self sabotaging. Doesn't mean this one isn't but there's an obvious squeaky wheel throwing off a lot of excuses and appearing more unprofessional with every new story that's coming out.
Good post Eric.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
You really don’t know anything except what you read. Therefore I suggest that you should just trust our HC....it is arse on the line each and every week.
I assume that every coach, whether they're a head or an assistant, takes their job seriously - they're all evaluated on performance and are all expendable. And why would I "just trust" a rookie head coach who hasn't won anything yet?
Have you never stuck it out continuing to work at a job with a shitty boss?
Sure have. And has a boss ever, rather than firing an underperforming employee outright, taken steps to try to improve the situation first?
Let's be honest - if Colombo had been fired weeks ago, you'd be on here complaining that Judge never gave him a chance to succeed.
I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
behind closed doors all the time. Like when Antonio Brown surreptitiously filmed Mike Tomlin shit-talking the Patriots in the Pittsburgh locker room. I'd be more concerned about the person leaking this stuff than the actual content (if it's even true).
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
I'm not suggesting you have a personal attachment to Colombo. I'm suggesting you have a personal bias against Judge, and your opinions about what he should be doing are reverse engineered to suit it.
That whole thing sounds like someone desperately trying
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
Stepping on his toes? Judge is the head coach. He can tell the OL whatever the hell he wants.
Columbo's OL was shit, he wasn't doing his job well.
If you are doing a shit job and your boss steps in is it acceptable to "become outspoken" toward him in front of your subordinates?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
I'm not suggesting you have a personal attachment to Colombo. I'm suggesting you have a personal bias against Judge, and your opinions about what he should be doing are reverse engineered to suit it.
I actually like Judge personally based on what I can see, but I'm neutral on him in regard to his coaching. I recognize that he's a rookie coach, but until he proves he can make his team in to a winner I'll certainly view every one of his decisions with a level of skepticism.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
I'm not suggesting you have a personal attachment to Colombo. I'm suggesting you have a personal bias against Judge, and your opinions about what he should be doing are reverse engineered to suit it.
I actually like Judge personally based on what I can see, but I'm neutral on him in regard to his coaching. I recognize that he's a rookie coach, but until he proves he can make his team in to a winner I'll certainly view every one of his decisions with a level of skepticism.
How are you expecting him to win with such a flawed roster?
My expectations for him would still be low even if he had a better roster, because he's a first time head coach. But it's always the case at least for me, whether the coach is a rookie or a veteran, that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt until he wins games consistently.
Are professional football players. They want to perform and keep their jobs. Colombo is gone, they will embrace the change.
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
exactly. i've seen it a ton of times in business. an executive gets fired and thinks his "people" will be upset. in reality they only compare about their own jobs and performance. i expect our OL to step up and continue to improve.
Called him out on Twitter when he accidentally slipped with military fly over live at halftime working a college all star game on nfln on open Mike “what’s going on with this Shit” blocked me ASAP glad the guy working for shit
RE: I don't expect him to win with this current roster
My expectations for him would still be low even if he had a better roster, because he's a first time head coach. But it's always the case at least for me, whether the coach is a rookie or a veteran, that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt until he wins games consistently.
I’m sure Joe Judge would be heartbroken to know some random guy on BBI refuses to give him the benefit of the doubt. It must really suck to go through life that way. And it’s also obvious by your posts that you are not a fan of Joe Judge, just own it.
Called him out on Twitter when he accidentally slipped with military fly over live at halftime working a college all star game on nfln on open Mike “what’s going on with this Shit” blocked me ASAP glad the guy working for shit
Judge would talk about Brady like that? This seems absolutely outlandish. “Well...he IS intelligent, I’ll give him that....”
Seriously, this all sounds like garbage.
My guess is this is what they discussed when coaching up for the Tampa Bay game. They were breaking down his strengths and weaknesses and this was blown up by Colombo's camp to shed a poor light on Judge. But who knows. Truth is usually somewhere just left/right of center... lol
deal that would put posters at each other's throats?
Colombo wasn't getting it done. He got on Judge's wrong side. He got fired, instead of just working along with it. Now, with these antics he is going to be hard pressed to find a coaching job in the NFL and maybe even college. That he "liked" a tweet about Judge getting belted is really going to look bad - one of those social media moments that potentially sinks a career.
It seems the story changes ever few hours. So eventually most of the truth will come out. If it came down to Lombardi, Silver or Stapleton, who are you going to believe?
Are professional football players. They want to perform and keep their jobs. Colombo is gone, they will embrace the change.
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
I mostly agree with your first paragraph.
However, if most of the reporting is true, and there was a confrontation split, that is newsworthy; and a big deal because our OL has been a major problem for a long time.
Just think how often the OL has been discussed around here. It seems like it's been a daily topic for at least five years...
Are professional football players. They want to perform and keep their jobs. Colombo is gone, they will embrace the change.
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
I mostly agree with your first paragraph.
However, if most of the reporting is true, and there was a confrontation split, that is newsworthy; and a big deal because our OL has been a major problem for a long time.
Just think how often the OL has been discussed around here. It seems like it's been a daily topic for at least five years...
It is not a big deal because:
1.) Apparently Colombo was not getting it done the way Judge wanted. When corrected he argued and became spiteful(to be fair both probably did)
2.) He is being replaced by a much more experienced coach who will likely be doing what Judge wants
3.) If the line only started to improve after Judge stepped in, then it should improve even quicker now that the teaching environment improves
4.) Football players have many different coaches over their careers. The best learn from all, adapt and improve. This not a change of offense, just a change of voice. Technique should be mostly the same but how to best achieve it will be taught differently.
5.) Remember when Parcells used to cut one veteran late in camp? He did it to catch the attention of the rest of the players. If the players are smart, they will realize that if Judge is willing to fire a coach, he is more than willing to cut them if they don't perform as expected
My expectations for him would still be low even if he had a better roster, because he's a first time head coach. But it's always the case at least for me, whether the coach is a rookie or a veteran, that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt until he wins games consistently.
I’m sure Joe Judge would be heartbroken to know some random guy on BBI refuses to give him the benefit of the doubt. It must really suck to go through life that way. And it’s also obvious by your posts that you are not a fan of Joe Judge, just own it.
Ok.....weird post. I didn't think I was doing anything different than everyone else posting their opinions on a football forum. But I certainly don't care if you don't think I'm sufficiently slurping Joe Judge. If mild criticism of a player or a coach that you're crushing on bothers you then disregard my posts.
RE: Michael Silver was on Judge's ass all offseason
On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Has nothing to do with whether it was a " good look" or not, Judges hand was FORCED once Colombo cursed him in front of the team. FORCED, He had no choice but to fire him. It works that way everywhere in the world.
RE: RE: Michael Silver graduated from Cal Berkeley ...
Head Coach is publicly killing the kid who almost all believe has improved lately now why not chastise him from way back in games 1-6. These guys go to war for the coaches and team we can’t blame a positional coach for trying to help his player if he feels it’s not right. I always say you can’t learn much on the bench but slamming a young guy in the film room will that really help his development going forward. As a player would you not feel even more responsible to your positional coach if he’s willing to fight for you.
Again, your own comments make it clear you don't understand the role of head coach when you say things like
"we can’t blame a positional coach for trying to help his player if he feels it’s not right" so it's about what the assistant FEELS, not the head coach demands? " Can't blame him" ?? Really?? This fucking cunt piece of shit Colombo called Judge a Cunt in front of the whole team because he had feelings? Fuck Colombo. We aren't running a day camp.
RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
Really? That's what it seems like tto you? so this fucking assistant interupts and interjects repeatedly when the HEAD COACH IS COACHING, and he's stepping on Colombos feet? Unless you think the assistant is actually the head coach, that's one fucked up outlook. Who are you to say when he should have fired Colombo? Maybe he DID make up his mind to fire him, hired DD, and made the move when it was comfortable for him. Why should Judge's timing be dicatated by considerations for some asshole he's about to shitcan??????????
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
By the same logic, why didn't Colombo quit when Judge started stepping on his toes, if it was such an "unhealthy situation?"
Have you never stuck it out continuing to work at a job with a shitty boss?
Judge a shitty boss, Colombo in the right, was the wronged party here. Gotcha.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a report like this.
On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
You really don’t know anything except what you read. Therefore I suggest that you should just trust our HC....it is arse on the line each and every week.
I assume that every coach, whether they're a head or an assistant, takes their job seriously - they're all evaluated on performance and are all expendable. And why would I "just trust" a rookie head coach who hasn't won anything yet?
There you go, you said it straight up and owned it. YOU don't trust the head coach. Apparently Colombo didn't either. Why you wtrust an insubordinate scrub noob asst coach whose unit sucked balls till Judge laid hands on in his person is beyond me. ( and yeah 4 years total coaching, as an asst, mind you is a NOOB in the NFL)
no surprise his deep ball has been off for the past few years.
that is some petty shit dropping that in addition to making him sound like a dick in the film room.
colombo must've hated judge badly
He was jelly. Judge was an asst that got the big job, and Colombo was the scrub coaching an underperforming OL. We will see the judgement of the rest of the NFL and how Colombo, and judge, do from here out. My guess is Judge will be around long after anyone remembers who Marc Colombo was.
on Brady not being able to throw outside the numbers. Last year he was awful. Anything over 15 yards was questionable. He seems better this year, but I was sure he was done last year. Of course he had crappy receivers in NE too.
RE: I don't expect him to win with this current roster
My expectations for him would still be low even if he had a better roster, because he's a first time head coach. But it's always the case at least for me, whether the coach is a rookie or a veteran, that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt until he wins games consistently.
Unless of course, you are "Big Toes" Marc Colombo...
RE: RE: RE: Michael Silver graduated from Cal Berkeley ...
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On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
You really don’t know anything except what you read. Therefore I suggest that you should just trust our HC....it is arse on the line each and every week.
The improvement coming when Judge got involved is what I’ve heard from several sources. All he wanted to do was hire a consultant to hold Colombo’s hand....his ego didn’t like that so there you go. He asked for it. You don’t cuss your boss out. I don’t think too many bosses do well with that.
Clearly this stuff started a few weeks ago (and seems about the time former coaches of Thomas were commenting about technique changes here) and then culminated this week.
The Brady stuff is childish bullshit and yes, seems like that came from Colombo. I have zero way of knowing what was said or not said but, I will go with the HC who so far has done things very deliberately and very much by a process and I highly doubt he now decided to act personally to get a buddy brought on board and do something rash in the middle of the season. You disrespect you walk! Seems pretty simple to me.
Second the most important thing from here forward is going to be the performance of the OL. Just as the most important thing this season was their improvement the last couple weeks (especially Thomas). Either Judge is self sabotaging or making the right decision for the team going forward. We've seen Judge make 100's of decisions big and small since he was hired - I wouldn't describe many if any as being self sabotaging. Doesn't mean this one isn't but there's an obvious squeaky wheel throwing off a lot of excuses and appearing more unprofessional with every new story that's coming out.
Good post Eric.
Have you never stuck it out continuing to work at a job with a shitty boss?
Sure have. And has a boss ever, rather than firing an underperforming employee outright, taken steps to try to improve the situation first?
Let's be honest - if Colombo had been fired weeks ago, you'd be on here complaining that Judge never gave him a chance to succeed.
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On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
You really don’t know anything except what you read. Therefore I suggest that you should just trust our HC....it is arse on the line each and every week.
I assume that every coach, whether they're a head or an assistant, takes their job seriously - they're all evaluated on performance and are all expendable. And why would I "just trust" a rookie head coach who hasn't won anything yet?
that is some petty shit dropping that in addition to making him sound like a dick in the film room.
colombo must've hated judge badly
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Have you never stuck it out continuing to work at a job with a shitty boss?
Sure have. And has a boss ever, rather than firing an underperforming employee outright, taken steps to try to improve the situation first?
Let's be honest - if Colombo had been fired weeks ago, you'd be on here complaining that Judge never gave him a chance to succeed.
I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
Yup. But so many here gotta be Devils Advocate.
I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
I'm not suggesting you have a personal attachment to Colombo. I'm suggesting you have a personal bias against Judge, and your opinions about what he should be doing are reverse engineered to suit it.
Not surprised a few posters who love to bash the Giants accepted it sight unseen
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
Stepping on his toes? Judge is the head coach. He can tell the OL whatever the hell he wants.
Columbo's OL was shit, he wasn't doing his job well.
If you are doing a shit job and your boss steps in is it acceptable to "become outspoken" toward him in front of your subordinates?
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I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
I'm not suggesting you have a personal attachment to Colombo. I'm suggesting you have a personal bias against Judge, and your opinions about what he should be doing are reverse engineered to suit it.
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I don't have any personal attachment to Marc Colombo - I don't care that he was fired. What I care about is whether Judge is breeding the right culture and relationships amongst is coaches and staff.
I'm not suggesting you have a personal attachment to Colombo. I'm suggesting you have a personal bias against Judge, and your opinions about what he should be doing are reverse engineered to suit it.
I actually like Judge personally based on what I can see, but I'm neutral on him in regard to his coaching. I recognize that he's a rookie coach, but until he proves he can make his team in to a winner I'll certainly view every one of his decisions with a level of skepticism.
How are you expecting him to win with such a flawed roster?
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
exactly. i've seen it a ton of times in business. an executive gets fired and thinks his "people" will be upset. in reality they only compare about their own jobs and performance. i expect our OL to step up and continue to improve.
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that should be kept in-house, players included.
The loose lips need to go. This has me concerned a bit.
what in the silver thread makes it apparent it's players talking and not all just colombo? i don't see anything.
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
This. Plenty of assistant coaches get fired midseason, nothing new.
I’m sure Joe Judge would be heartbroken to know some random guy on BBI refuses to give him the benefit of the doubt. It must really suck to go through life that way. And it’s also obvious by your posts that you are not a fan of Joe Judge, just own it.
What???
Seriously, this all sounds like garbage.
Seriously, this all sounds like garbage.
My guess is this is what they discussed when coaching up for the Tampa Bay game. They were breaking down his strengths and weaknesses and this was blown up by Colombo's camp to shed a poor light on Judge. But who knows. Truth is usually somewhere just left/right of center... lol
Colombo wasn't getting it done. He got on Judge's wrong side. He got fired, instead of just working along with it. Now, with these antics he is going to be hard pressed to find a coaching job in the NFL and maybe even college. That he "liked" a tweet about Judge getting belted is really going to look bad - one of those social media moments that potentially sinks a career.
It seems the story changes ever few hours. So eventually most of the truth will come out. If it came down to Lombardi, Silver or Stapleton, who are you going to believe?
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
I mostly agree with your first paragraph.
However, if most of the reporting is true, and there was a confrontation split, that is newsworthy; and a big deal because our OL has been a major problem for a long time.
Just think how often the OL has been discussed around here. It seems like it's been a daily topic for at least five years...
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Are professional football players. They want to perform and keep their jobs. Colombo is gone, they will embrace the change.
It s not nearly the big deal it s being made out to be
I mostly agree with your first paragraph.
However, if most of the reporting is true, and there was a confrontation split, that is newsworthy; and a big deal because our OL has been a major problem for a long time.
Just think how often the OL has been discussed around here. It seems like it's been a daily topic for at least five years...
It is not a big deal because:
1.) Apparently Colombo was not getting it done the way Judge wanted. When corrected he argued and became spiteful(to be fair both probably did)
2.) He is being replaced by a much more experienced coach who will likely be doing what Judge wants
3.) If the line only started to improve after Judge stepped in, then it should improve even quicker now that the teaching environment improves
4.) Football players have many different coaches over their careers. The best learn from all, adapt and improve. This not a change of offense, just a change of voice. Technique should be mostly the same but how to best achieve it will be taught differently.
5.) Remember when Parcells used to cut one veteran late in camp? He did it to catch the attention of the rest of the players. If the players are smart, they will realize that if Judge is willing to fire a coach, he is more than willing to cut them if they don't perform as expected
If he was Garrett’s guy and this makes him walk then so be it. Garrett is replaceable too.
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My expectations for him would still be low even if he had a better roster, because he's a first time head coach. But it's always the case at least for me, whether the coach is a rookie or a veteran, that he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt until he wins games consistently.
I’m sure Joe Judge would be heartbroken to know some random guy on BBI refuses to give him the benefit of the doubt. It must really suck to go through life that way. And it’s also obvious by your posts that you are not a fan of Joe Judge, just own it.
Ok.....weird post. I didn't think I was doing anything different than everyone else posting their opinions on a football forum. But I certainly don't care if you don't think I'm sufficiently slurping Joe Judge. If mild criticism of a player or a coach that you're crushing on bothers you then disregard my posts.
But yeah, why would judge bring up Tom Brady? What does that have to do with the Giants?
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On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
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That tells me all I need to know about the author.
That he's smart and well educated?
Again, your own comments make it clear you don't understand the role of head coach when you say things like
"we can’t blame a positional coach for trying to help his player if he feels it’s not right" so it's about what the assistant FEELS, not the head coach demands? " Can't blame him" ?? Really?? This fucking cunt piece of shit Colombo called Judge a Cunt in front of the whole team because he had feelings? Fuck Colombo. We aren't running a day camp.
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On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
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Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
By the same logic, why didn't Colombo quit when Judge started stepping on his toes, if it was such an "unhealthy situation?"
Have you never stuck it out continuing to work at a job with a shitty boss?
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On one side it seems clear that Colombo disrespected Judge and forced him to make a decision. But on the other side, we have been seeing an OL with some steady improvement under Colombo, and reports that the players liked him. I don't think this is a good look for Judge.
Would it have been a good look for Judge if he kept a coach around who continuously disrespects him in front of his players?
Of course not, but what it seems like some here are so willing to overlook are the reasons why Colombo would have became so outspoken towards Judge to begin with. It sounds like Judge was stepping all over his toes even before the decision to bring in somebody from the outside. That's not a healthy situation for an assistant coach to function in. If Judge didn't like the way Colombo was doing things then he should have fired him before it got to this point.
You really don’t know anything except what you read. Therefore I suggest that you should just trust our HC....it is arse on the line each and every week.
I assume that every coach, whether they're a head or an assistant, takes their job seriously - they're all evaluated on performance and are all expendable. And why would I "just trust" a rookie head coach who hasn't won anything yet?
that is some petty shit dropping that in addition to making him sound like a dick in the film room.
colombo must've hated judge badly
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That tells me all I need to know about the author.
That he's smart and well educated?
I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant a whining self entitled cry-baby.
I was actually thinking ‘professional shit stirrer’ but your comment works too. The ‘shit stirrer’ title hits home with many on this board.