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Judge frankly has not done enough to act the way he acts.

cpgiants : 11/20/2020 9:05 pm
Im all in on Joe Judge, but I am against changing anything when things are going good like the last 2 games.

I think we will be fine but if things go sour, you got a 3 win rookie coach who definitely put himself at risk of losing the team with this thing.

Parcells and Coughlin together have more Super Bowls than this guy has wins....

It was a calculated risk, firing an O line coach after you are done facing all of your toughest Defensive lines. But it could go all wrong.

He seems to avoid drama at all costs.....could this have been kept "in house"? What happened to handling things internally?

Now the microscope is on, and I guess we will see what happens....
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Enough  
robbieballs2003 : 11/20/2020 9:05 pm : link
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_________  
I am Ninja : 11/20/2020 9:07 pm : link
You don't know shit.
Frankly you haven't  
section125 : 11/20/2020 9:09 pm : link
done enough to bad mouth Judge. So I guess you are against improvement?
LOL wrong  
Saquads26 : 11/20/2020 9:09 pm : link
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Del Shofner : 11/20/2020 9:20 pm : link
who are you to Judge?
How does one go about firing a coach  
UConn4523 : 11/20/2020 9:23 pm : link
and keep it in house?

Would love to know, sounds like it would take some magic or witchcraft to pull off.
He's the coach who finally led us to a win over the Eagles.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/20/2020 9:23 pm : link
They should build a statue of him outside of the stadium.
Not sure  
darren in pdx : 11/20/2020 9:25 pm : link
I understand the thread. Based on what's been reported, I'm sure Judge didn't want to fire a coach mid-season but it seems like they weren't jiving and Columbo forced his hand by acting the way he did. It's the right move to move on now.
in case...  
outeiroj : 11/20/2020 9:27 pm : link
you haven't noticed yet, no one cares about your opinion, especially not enough to see the 60th thread of the day on it
Well....  
cpgiants : 11/20/2020 9:27 pm : link
The O line is coming along nicely, and he fired the coach.....
So, clearly, it could backfire.
Hope not.
You haven't done enough  
Sy'56 : 11/20/2020 9:31 pm : link
to have credible opinion on the subject.

Move on.
and  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/20/2020 9:32 pm : link
what is this "the way he acts" you speak of?
RE: You haven't done enough  
Mike in NY : 11/20/2020 9:33 pm : link
In comment 15052708 Sy'56 said:
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to have credible opinion on the subject.

Move on.


You stole my post Sy, now you are on my s** t list :)
Interesting that you mentioned Coughlin  
Jay on the Island : 11/20/2020 9:34 pm : link
Who actually became softer as the years passed leading up to two Super Bowl wins. He was intense in Jacksonville and turned an expansion team into a SB contender in two years.

Judge isn’t acting, this is the way he is. To suggest that he hasn’t “done enough” to act this way is ridiculous.
We’re al excited about judge and think he’s the guy  
Bleedblue10 : 11/20/2020 9:45 pm : link
But frankly the OP is right and this and his supposed cockiness(if true) is something that can turn people off quickly. Think about it, say one of the leaders of the team gets into it and players think judge is in the wrong. That kind of shit wears thin quickly. Hope this is all a moot point cause I really like JJ
RE: We’re al excited about judge and think he’s the guy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/20/2020 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15052716 Bleedblue10 said:
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But frankly the OP is right and this and his supposed cockiness(if true) is something that can turn people off quickly. Think about it, say one of the leaders of the team gets into it and players think judge is in the wrong. That kind of shit wears thin quickly. Hope this is all a moot point cause I really like JJ


What cockiness are you talking about? WTF are you guys even talking about?
Judge  
Archer : 11/20/2020 9:57 pm : link
This is who Judge is and he will win or lose being who he is
Leadership is leadership  
wigs in nyc : 11/20/2020 10:04 pm : link
you don’t need to wait to do the right thing, you just do it. This is some teenage adolescent shit. He was hired to be the Head Coach, right? He’s doing the job.
THe only thing that matters is how the OL responds  
PatersonPlank : 11/20/2020 10:10 pm : link
No matter how many posts we have no idea is this move was good or bad, only the team knows that. The players will tell us if Colombo was an idiot who needed to go or not.

Everybody freaking out is doing so with no real data and just guessing, which includes the beta reporters.
And of course you are an expert to make this assessment  
gmenrule-va : 11/20/2020 10:12 pm : link
because ?
I'm with Eric on this.  
81_Great_Dane : 11/20/2020 10:14 pm : link
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What option did Judge have?  
Since1965 : 11/20/2020 10:16 pm : link
He disagreed with his coach's instructional techniques. Clearly, Thomas has been a mess, Hernandez has regressed, Zietler has been about the same and Fleming has stunk. Gates is the only starter who has made significant growth. The entire line still can't pass protect, forcing the offense to feature three yard curls. Judge is the one with his neck on the line, so why would he continue to allow the same instruction if it wasn't paying off? Apparently, the run game improved in part due to Judge stepping in. Add to that Columbo's insubordination, and he did what he had to do. I don't know how that can be criticized as being cocky.
Judge is acting fine.  
an_idol_mind : 11/20/2020 10:16 pm : link
Now, if he makes the playoffs and comes in next year with his hair slicked back, I'll worry.
Which way  
BigBill : 11/20/2020 10:24 pm : link
Did he go George????
How exactly does he act?  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/20/2020 10:26 pm : link
what an inane post.
Parcells only won 3 games his 1st year as a HC  
JohnB : 11/20/2020 10:29 pm : link
Judge will surpass that mark.

Regarding Parcells...  
GA5 : 11/20/2020 10:39 pm : link
read my post below.
Yea well  
SleepyOwl : 11/20/2020 11:07 pm : link
The offense was much better last year under Shurmur... Garrett is next
RE: .  
Anakim : 11/20/2020 11:08 pm : link
In comment 15052698 Del Shofner said:
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who are you to Judge?


Touche'
RE: Parcells only won 3 games his 1st year as a HC  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/20/2020 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15052756 JohnB said:
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Judge will surpass that mark.


And it's not like Judge has an LT type talent on the team on defense or offense.
how do you lose a team that only has 3 wins?  
markky : 11/20/2020 11:55 pm : link
what, will they stop playing well? i don't care if he "loses" this team. the team needs to step up.
HA!  
kes722 : 11/21/2020 12:35 am : link
He fired the coach from the worst performing group on the team. GOOD!!

Idiots acting like he fired the next Belichick
Talk about inventing a bunch of nonsense  
mfsd : 11/21/2020 12:39 am : link
This thread takes the cake
Mongorific...  
Optimus-NY : 11/21/2020 3:00 am : link
I hate it  
c_dude : 11/21/2020 4:27 am : link
when the Head Coach goes around acting like he thinks he is the Head Coach. I mean, who does this Judge guy think he is really? Prolly not even a real judge I bet.
The OP has not done enough here...  
EricJ : 11/21/2020 6:05 am : link
to get away with stupid posts like this. I hope our GM Eric can cut this guy at half time.....which would be noon today.
He's doing  
noro9 : 11/21/2020 6:17 am : link
What strong leaders do
RE: The OP has not done enough here...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/21/2020 7:18 am : link
In comment 15052826 EricJ said:
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to get away with stupid posts like this. I hope our GM Eric can cut this guy at half time.....which would be noon today.

I don't agree with the OP's take on Judge. But making one stupid post should not get you "cut" from BBI. If those are the standards then BBI should probably cut the guy who posted this...

"Garrett will just have that stupid pedophile smile on his face and won't say anything."

I don’t get the premise of the OP  
joeinpa : 11/21/2020 7:25 am : link
Getting to where you want to be in any job involves making decisions, some tough; those decisions are based on your core beliefs.

Over time you find out if you are cut out for the task.

You want to question Judge s decision making, go ahead, that s what fans do. But he he earned the right to make those decisions when he got the job.

I don’t think your post was well thought out. Coughlin make some bad decisions when he got the job but was aware enough to evolve for success.

That s how it works. Hopefully Judge will learn from the mistakes he is bound to make as well.

I don’t think firing Colombo fits the category as a ,”bad” decision, but even if it is, he certainly earned the right to make it when he got the job.
Somehow  
Bill2 : 11/21/2020 7:34 am : link
I'm struck by the use and placement of the word "frankly".

Reminiscent of Rhett Butler's: "Frankly, my dear, I dont give a damm".

The whole thread start seems to be more usefully about finding a way to use "frankly" in a sentence than about this now over analyzed attempt to make the Giants better.

And the feverish attempts to trot out their usual themes by the usual posters
What’s amazing to me..  
Sean : 11/21/2020 7:51 am : link
The last two head coaches appeared to lack leadership, McAdoo got run over by his players in 2017. Shurmur was a nice guy,,but lacked presence.

The Giants were 12-36 from 2017 through 2019. It’s incredible that there are posters uncomfortable with what Judge is doing. We don’t know how this all will play out, but this franchise has needed a decisive leader at head coach for awhile now. Judge is the head coach, he should run things as he sees fit.
It's just an OP with an opinion  
LBH15 : 11/21/2020 7:53 am : link
that may not be wrong, but certainly fine to give.
Although we've won the last 2 games  
GiantsRage2007 : 11/21/2020 8:14 am : link
I wouldn't keep things status quo cause we won those 2 games

At least Judge is adhering to Parcells advice - either win or lose doing things your own way. If you are a HC and don't run things true to yourself or how you want, you'll never forgive yourself when it doesn't work and you get fired.
RE: Although we've won the last 2 games  
Saquads26 : 11/21/2020 8:23 am : link
In comment 15052853 GiantsRage2007 said:
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I wouldn't keep things status quo cause we won those 2 games

At least Judge is adhering to Parcells advice - either win or lose doing things your own way. If you are a HC and don't run things true to yourself or how you want, you'll never forgive yourself when it doesn't work and you get fired.


And that’s exactly Judge’s thinking. Two wins against shitty opponents meant nothing so he made a change where he felt was needed.
Judge had no choice  
Eli Wilson : 11/21/2020 8:36 am : link
Once Columbo disagreed with him in front of the players, that was pretty much the end. He should have taken any disagreement in private.

Add that to his reaction to learning of DDs hire and he had no choice.

It was either fire Columbo or lose credibility with the team.
If Columbo couldn’t get on board with the HC vision  
UberAlias : 11/21/2020 8:40 am : link
Then he had to go. It’s that simple. Right or wrong, the head coach sets the direction. Columbo can have his opinion about what technique should be taught and if they should rotate, but if that’s not the direction, that’s not the direction. You can’t run a team having each position coach doing what it is they want.
CpGiants: Is that you Donald J ?  
Ivan15 : 11/21/2020 8:47 am : link
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RE: RE: The OP has not done enough here...  
EricJ : 11/21/2020 9:05 am : link
In comment 15052833 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 15052826 EricJ said:


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to get away with stupid posts like this. I hope our GM Eric can cut this guy at half time.....which would be noon today.


I don't agree with the OP's take on Judge. But making one stupid post should not get you "cut" from BBI. If those are the standards then BBI should probably cut the guy who posted this...

"Garrett will just have that stupid pedophile smile on his face and won't say anything."


...but he DOES have a pedophile smile on his face.
His subordinate disobeyed his orders  
BillT : 11/21/2020 9:23 am : link
That gets you fired in every job everywhere.
RE: RE: We’re al excited about judge and think he’s the guy  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/21/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 15052720 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15052716 Bleedblue10 said:


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But frankly the OP is right and this and his supposed cockiness(if true) is something that can turn people off quickly. Think about it, say one of the leaders of the team gets into it and players think judge is in the wrong. That kind of shit wears thin quickly. Hope this is all a moot point cause I really like JJ



What cockiness are you talking about? WTF are you guys even talking about?


I second Eric's thoughts.
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