Shitty day here in Florida so parking my ass in front of couch this afternoon.
Anyone got any action today? Took Indiana +21, really like what they are building over there and could easily see a backdoor cover in play with Ohio State's defense not up to their admittedly high standard.
Of course OK-OK State later is always a good one.
Indiana has a chance to be the first team to beat PSU, Michigan State, Michigan and OSU in the same season.
This looks like another Haskins situation. Gaudy stats due to team talent difference over competitors. His decision making is terrible and will be exposed at the NFL level.
This looks like another Haskins situation. Gaudy stats due to team talent difference over competitors. His decision making is terrible and will be exposed at the NFL level.
Maybe Georgia played the wrong QB? Fromm isn't anywhere close to the QB Fields is. And Georgia has recruited just as well as Ohio State the last few years.
This looks like another Haskins situation. Gaudy stats due to team talent difference over competitors. His decision making is terrible and will be exposed at the NFL level.
Let me make sure I understand this. Fields’s decision making is now universally terrible because he finally threw two interceptions for the year?
You are quite the evaluator.
Perhaps Fields is having a bad first half against a very good team.
Let’s see how this plays out. I don’t recall a college QB prospect EVER not making poor decisions sometime during a year. Do you?
I don't know how you can say you don't understand what people see in him though. He's extremely physically talented. That first pick he just trusted his arm too much, wasn't even that bad a throw.
Pressure is the great equalizer though and if this is what he puts on tape against light pressure, glad we won't be in a position to take the guy.
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No idea what people see in him. Couldn’t beat out Fromm so he transferred to a school that recruits better than everyone else in the conference.
This looks like another Haskins situation. Gaudy stats due to team talent difference over competitors. His decision making is terrible and will be exposed at the NFL level.
Let me make sure I understand this. Fields’s decision making is now universally terrible because he finally threw two interceptions for the year?
You are quite the evaluator.
Perhaps Fields is having a bad first half against a very good team.
Let’s see how this plays out. I don’t recall a college QB prospect EVER not making poor decisions sometime during a year. Do you?
It's the fact that he is finally facing pressure across the line and it isn't even that heavy. Usually when you see him facing any pressure at all it's one guy and the rest of the line is stonewalling. And that's the risk with this guy, is that there really isn't going to be much film out there with him in this situation.
Playing QB for the NY Giants and playing QB for Ohio State is essentially an apples and screwdrivers comparison.
This is what I want to see. It's so unusual for him to face pressure can definitely be caught off guard. Want to see how he responds.
The OSU OL is being overwhelmed by it. They need to adjust.
Or Day needs to get Fields on the edge...
The OSU OL is being overwhelmed by it. They need to adjust.
Or Day needs to get Fields on the edge...
One or two plays doesn't tell the whole picture. For the most part the pressure isn't all that heavy. As Giants fans we should know what that looks like.
That was an impressive run out of the pocket.
Long throwing motion. Looks hitchy too...
Good locking athlete.
That was an impressive run out of the pocket.
Sure it was a throw they make in the NFL, but it certainly wasn't very accurate to a wide open WR.
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No idea what people see in him. Couldn’t beat out Fromm so he transferred to a school that recruits better than everyone else in the conference.
This looks like another Haskins situation. Gaudy stats due to team talent difference over competitors. His decision making is terrible and will be exposed at the NFL level.
Let me make sure I understand this. Fields’s decision making is now universally terrible because he finally threw two interceptions for the year?
You are quite the evaluator.
Perhaps Fields is having a bad first half against a very good team.
Let’s see how this plays out. I don’t recall a college QB prospect EVER not making poor decisions sometime during a year. Do you?
I don’t see anything exceptional in his game. He’s mobile, great, almost all of the NFL QBs are mobile now. I see a kid who isn’t really being tested given the talent difference week to week, just like Haskins.
Fortunately the Giants won’t be picking him. I’d hate to be a fan of the team that does.
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That sideline throw to Olave was an NFL throw.
That was an impressive run out of the pocket.
Sure it was a throw they make in the NFL, but it certainly wasn't very accurate to a wide open WR.
It was over the defender and to a spot where only Olave could grab it. So I thought it was a very good throw.
Olave has the goods...
I don’t see anything exceptional in his game. He’s mobile, great, almost all of the NFL QBs are mobile now. I see a kid who isn’t really being tested given the talent difference week to week, just like Haskins.
Fortunately the Giants won’t be picking him. I’d hate to be a fan of the team that does.
Fair enough. If you can't see the talent difference between Fields and Haskins than we just see the game through a different lens.
There is a risk drafting QBs like Fields who constantly have tons of time to throw. They may not have to go through their reads regularly knowing that they'll likely have enough time to wait for their first option to get open. They may also not face the kind of constant pressure and exotic blitz packages that are common in the NFL, even by teams with bad defenses. You also need to know whether they can come from behind, and win games at the end.
Fields is nonetheless a top flight NFL prospect. His arm strength, accuracy, and mechanics are excellent. He can also scramble. And it appears to me that he can go through his reads when required. He's a much better prsopect than Haskins.
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I don’t see anything exceptional in his game. He’s mobile, great, almost all of the NFL QBs are mobile now. I see a kid who isn’t really being tested given the talent difference week to week, just like Haskins.
Fortunately the Giants won’t be picking him. I’d hate to be a fan of the team that does.
Fair enough. If you can't see the talent difference between Fields and Haskins than we just see the game through a different lens.
It’s not Fields v Haskins. The point is both benefitted from a huge talent advantage week to week. Ohio State doesn’t even need to throw the ball in this game.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I mean he could and with his tools he'll have a long career in the league at the very least, but sure as hell not jettisong him for DJ at this point. That's what annoys me the most, regardless of position, people fall in love with prospects. The NFL is a completely different ball game, espcially when you play QB on a stacked roster. At least with Lawrence you have a sample size there. Didn't really watch much college football last year, but this year is first time Fields has seen pressure and he looks pretty shook.
He does.
42-35.
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
He's been lights out this year...and this game, too.
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
Agreed.
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wide open player on that 4th down. Sorry but I do not see anything special.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
What's your point? Had zero to do with whether he made play or not it was after the fact.
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
The difference being is the big question is what does he look like under pressure because it's so rare to see on film. Players have bad games, but the one time he's under pressure the results weren't good. He'll probably only have 1 or 2 or more opportunities to show what he is about this year.
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wide open player on that 4th down. Sorry but I do not see anything special.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
What's your point? Had zero to do with whether he made play or not it was after the fact.
My point is knowing he was about to get drilled in the face caused Fields to be off target.
Very good case can be made he's the Heisman front runner.
Vandy is bad...so this game was a virtual walkover for the Gators.
I think everyone needs to be objective and stop automatically anointing this kid as a future great and top draft pick. Time will tell. However I will say again that an OSU QB rolling up impressive stats versus Rutgers is meaningless in regards of how good he would in the NFL.
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wide open player on that 4th down. Sorry but I do not see anything special.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
Bullshit. Just because a partisan announcer said it doesn't make it true. FOX didn't even replay it to show it. NCAA does a great job with the booth review ref watching. If it was targeting it would have been called. Indiana did not even rush to get the play off.
The difference being is the big question is what does he look like under pressure because it's so rare to see on film. Players have bad games, but the one time he's under pressure the results weren't good. He'll probably only have 1 or 2 or more opportunities to show what he is about this year.
I get it. I've seen Fields make some terrific throws under pressure. I also realize the other team gets paid, too, and they can make the QB uncomfortable. That's what Indiana get a few times today. Kudos to Allen and his staff for finding a weak spot in the OSU protection and exploiting it...
Bullshit. Just because a partisan announcer said it doesn't make it true. FOX didn't even replay it to show it. NCAA does a great job with the booth review ref watching. If it was targeting it would have been called. Indiana did not even rush to get the play off.
Actually Fox did show it once. Looked like targeting to me. But I would have liked to see another angle to confirm.
What partisan announcer are you talking about, btw?
I think everyone needs to be objective and stop automatically anointing this kid as a future great and top draft pick. Time will tell. However I will say again that an OSU QB rolling up impressive stats versus Rutgers is meaningless in regards of how good he would in the NFL.
I actually don't get caught up in stats on these players (except maybe for sacks. I think that's a skill that conveys).
I look for arm talent, placement, accuracy, mobility, toughness, etc. I see many of those elements in those Fields. And one game where he makes some poor decision isn't going to suddenly make me pivot away.
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Bullshit. Just because a partisan announcer said it doesn't make it true. FOX didn't even replay it to show it. NCAA does a great job with the booth review ref watching. If it was targeting it would have been called. Indiana did not even rush to get the play off.
Actually Fox did show it once. Looked like targeting to me. But I would have liked to see another angle to confirm.
What partisan announcer are you talking about, btw?
Whomever was announcing. It was clear who they favored. I only saw the 4th quarter and could care less who won. But the subtle comments caught my attention. Doesn't really matter in all honesty.
But if the booth review ref did not call down, doubtful it was targeting. Those guy rarely miss a bad hit.
Not sure about the rest though.
I agree that Field looked flustered at times. And I don't discard what happened today. Just more data to consider.
And I haven't been on Field as a can't miss since high school. I have pointed out that he's been a highly ranking prospect for much of his career. So I think he's made to handle the pressure of expectations.
Whomever was announcing. It was clear who they favored. I only saw the 4th quarter and could care less who won. But the subtle comments caught my attention. Doesn't really matter in all honesty.
But if the booth review ref did not call down, doubtful it was targeting. Those guy rarely miss a bad hit.
Johnson and Klatt are pretty good and fair in my mind. Klatt, I believe, is one of the best both analysts in the game.
Big games against top competition. That’s what makes top picks.
although a player failed the 3rd party test, Clemson followed ACC protocol so they were eligible to play a/t ACC rules. the FSU medical team was not "comfortable" playing so the game is postponed.
Wait...doesn't he play with a top OL, other great WRs, a great RB, a good TE, and a very good QB?
I mean, who couldn't succeed with those pieces... ;)
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is creating records at WR.
Wait...doesn't he play with a top OL, other great WRs, a great RB, a good TE, and a very good QB?
I mean, who couldn't succeed with those pieces... ;)
He’s the piece that I like best.
Should be in that range this year...
Should be in that range this year...
Yeah. He will be one of those names we discuss in a few months for NYG.
Not a big fan of first round WRs but nevertheless
Not sure about the rest though.
Love Trask, he would be a great pick for someone with a veteran QB in place they are looking to replace in a year or two. My worries with these pure pocket passers now is that everyone is o impatient and they take longer to develop as they can't rely on their legs.
They look like a team on COVID
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
Not anymore. If fans have an agenda all it takes is one bad game to prove them right, hell all it takes is one bad play.
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
I dont think I can buy this argument. None of the players you mentioned in that list other than Lawrence had the NFL caliber talent around them that Fields has playing against the by far lesser competition in the current Big 10. I think nobody was drafted from Ole Miss other than Eli his draft year.
Fields has ability, but what I think I and other posters are saying is that he never overcomes adversity. Like Lawrence in that national title game was facing a Alabam D that was up in his ass all game and was an all world D personnel wise. Lawrence made significant plays when under pressure and when the defense had everything covered. Havent seen Fields do that yet.
Figures that the minute the Badgers get a 5 star QB their running game disappears and their WRs are out.
Beat Minnesota next week..
COVID hurt them.
Evanston continues to be a house of horrors for Bucky.
Should have consulted with Badger fans..
Not anymore. If fans have an agenda all it takes is one bad game to prove them right, hell all it takes is one bad play.
That's pretty widespread across the media, too. I would imagine by Monday you will hear on national media how Fields took a major step back.
Hell, I heard it today around the third quarter when I ran an errand. I was in my truck and the host of Mad Dog radio was saying Field was looking like another "typical Ohio State QB"...just based on the fact that Field actually/finally threw an interception this year.
Unless he's completing 80% of his passes at 12+ YPA with 4 TDs and 0 INTs Fields isn't doing his job...
I dont think I can buy this argument. None of the players you mentioned in that list other than Lawrence had the NFL caliber talent around them that Fields has playing against the by far lesser competition in the current Big 10. I think nobody was drafted from Ole Miss other than Eli his draft year.
Fields has ability, but what I think I and other posters are saying is that he never overcomes adversity. Like Lawrence in that national title game was facing a Alabam D that was up in his ass all game and was an all world D personnel wise. Lawrence made significant plays when under pressure and when the defense had everything covered. Havent seen Fields do that yet.
You don't think guys like Manning and Luck were surrounded by NFL talent?
Manning played with Marcus Nash, Peerless Price, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Terry Fair, etc. That team was loaded.
Luck played with Tyler Gafney, Zach Wertz, Coby Fleener, Ty Montgomery, Chris Owusu, David DeCastro, Cam Fleming, Trent Murphy, etc.
Those teams were loaded.
I agree that it would help Fields to show that he can overcome more adversity. So how does he do that? Transfer to Vanderbilt?
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I dont think I can buy this argument. None of the players you mentioned in that list other than Lawrence had the NFL caliber talent around them that Fields has playing against the by far lesser competition in the current Big 10. I think nobody was drafted from Ole Miss other than Eli his draft year.
Fields has ability, but what I think I and other posters are saying is that he never overcomes adversity. Like Lawrence in that national title game was facing a Alabam D that was up in his ass all game and was an all world D personnel wise. Lawrence made significant plays when under pressure and when the defense had everything covered. Havent seen Fields do that yet.
You don't think guys like Manning and Luck were surrounded by NFL talent?
Manning played with Marcus Nash, Peerless Price, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Terry Fair, etc. That team was loaded.
Luck played with Tyler Gafney, Zach Wertz, Coby Fleener, Ty Montgomery, Chris Owusu, David DeCastro, Cam Fleming, Trent Murphy, etc.
Those teams were loaded.
I agree that it would help Fields to show that he can overcome more adversity. So how does he do that? Transfer to Vanderbilt?
You got me on Luck....forgot he played with Ertz and Fleener. But he was a consensus stud prospect who had everything you wanted and he was built like a brick shit house. If you are comparing Fields to Luck as a prospect because Luck had some bad games himself, dont know of I wanna go down that rabbit hole.
Regarding Peyton, you mentioned ONE offensive player on his college team that was significant....Price. The reat were defensive players.
I dont know why you constantly feel the need to dig up names to support your argument about players you like. You did the same thing with Will Grier and he is not even a thought these days.
While I was all in on Jones, I could poke wholes in others arguments citing the ding against his arm strength was unfounded and point to how great his legs are and how tpugh he is, but I dont. I regularly mention how disappointed I am in not only his lack of ball security, but his abilitiy to make quick real time decisions that could benefit the offense. I went all in on the guy, and I freely admit I might have been off in being sure about Jones. But am not afraid to say "shit, I may have been wrong about him."
Just saying you defend an opinion like it's a legacy indicator...its okay to be wrong about a player you happen to like.
Been that way really for years. Before they had the problem of great ATHLETES but not players (Peppers, Gary, Funchess, Shea Patterson) so they lost because of THAT. Now they just suck shit through a tube.
You got me on Luck....forgot he played with Ertz and Fleener. But he was a consensus stud prospect who had everything you wanted and he was built like a brick shit house. If you are comparing Fields to Luck as a prospect because Luck had some bad games himself, dont know of I wanna go down that rabbit hole.
Regarding Peyton, you mentioned ONE offensive player on his college team that was significant....Price. The reat were defensive players.
I dont know why you constantly feel the need to dig up names to support your argument about players you like. You did the same thing with Will Grier and he is not even a thought these days.
While I was all in on Jones, I could poke wholes in others arguments citing the ding against his arm strength was unfounded and point to how great his legs are and how tpugh he is, but I dont. I regularly mention how disappointed I am in not only his lack of ball security, but his abilitiy to make quick real time decisions that could benefit the offense. I went all in on the guy, and I freely admit I might have been off in being sure about Jones. But am not afraid to say "shit, I may have been wrong about him."
Just saying you defend an opinion like it's a legacy indicator...its okay to be wrong about a player you happen to like.
Field has been at OSU for two years. Excluding anyone on this team because they are obviously not in the NFL, who did Fields play with last year who is shining in the NFL thus far? They may be really good eventually, but we're still deep into the wait and see stage. So I don't get this suggestion that Field is playing with these vastly superior NFL talent.
If you want to tell me that OSU is loaded with a tremendous about of 4 and 5 star athletes, I agree. But don't tell me guys like Manning, Luck, Newton, etc weren't playing with top shelf players at their schools. Because it's just not true.
I don't know how Fields will ultimately do at the next level. I like a lot of his tools and think he fits the modern game.
Look, today wasn't a great day. Fields struggled. But I'm not ready to say one outing defines his profile - like some earlier posters have. It's more intel to consider. So I'm curious to see how he bounces back and responds.
If Fields starts to level off, and he continues to struggle, I'm sure I'll reconsider where I think he belongs. But it's still only game...for now.
Looks like they found their QB. Milton is a coach killer, but in all fairness, Michigan is sporting a really young team out there. No Kwitty Paye, Hutchinson, Cam McGrone, they just lost their senior safety Hawkins, and they don’t have both of their offensive tackles.
All that said, schiano’s teams sure know how to play defense.
Schiano deserved to lose that game after the way he played the 1st overtime basically sitting on it for a 42 yard field goal in college.
2nd and 6 he's trying the double pass. Then on 4th down he's running a fake bubble screen because michigan is definitely going to be worried about a bubble screen on 4th and 6.
I know he's not the offensive coordinator, but that was just mind numbing how dumb the play calls were in the 1st and 3rd overtimes. He had to have a hand in the 1st overtime ones because they called timeout to sit on a 42 yard field goal
3rd OT though...
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I dont think I can buy this argument. None of the players you mentioned in that list other than Lawrence had the NFL caliber talent around them that Fields has playing against the by far lesser competition in the current Big 10. I think nobody was drafted from Ole Miss other than Eli his draft year.
Fields has ability, but what I think I and other posters are saying is that he never overcomes adversity. Like Lawrence in that national title game was facing a Alabam D that was up in his ass all game and was an all world D personnel wise. Lawrence made significant plays when under pressure and when the defense had everything covered. Havent seen Fields do that yet.
You don't think guys like Manning and Luck were surrounded by NFL talent?
Manning played with Marcus Nash, Peerless Price, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Terry Fair, etc. That team was loaded.
Luck played with Tyler Gafney, Zach Wertz, Coby Fleener, Ty Montgomery, Chris Owusu, David DeCastro, Cam Fleming, Trent Murphy, etc.
Those teams were loaded.
I agree that it would help Fields to show that he can overcome more adversity. So how does he do that? Transfer to Vanderbilt?
You got me on Luck....forgot he played with Ertz and Fleener. But he was a consensus stud prospect who had everything you wanted and he was built like a brick shit house. If you are comparing Fields to Luck as a prospect because Luck had some bad games himself, dont know of I wanna go down that rabbit hole.
Regarding Peyton, you mentioned ONE offensive player on his college team that was significant....Price. The reat were defensive players.
I dont know why you constantly feel the need to dig up names to support your argument about players you like. You did the same thing with Will Grier and he is not even a thought these days.
While I was all in on Jones, I could poke wholes in others arguments citing the ding against his arm strength was unfounded and point to how great his legs are and how tpugh he is, but I dont. I regularly mention how disappointed I am in not only his lack of ball security, but his abilitiy to make quick real time decisions that could benefit the offense. I went all in on the guy, and I freely admit I might have been off in being sure about Jones. But am not afraid to say "shit, I may have been wrong about him."
Just saying you defend an opinion like it's a legacy indicator...its okay to be wrong about a player you happen to like.
Nash was a first round pick the same year Manning came out. Chad Clifton was protecting his blind side. Bryson was drafted in the 3rd round a few years later. They had plenty of offensive talent besides Peerless Price
That offense was filled with future pros.
That offense was filled with future pros.
It's interesting what people forget or don't know.
Granted he was a 6th round pick, but take a look at that team Brady played with at Michigan:
Jeff Backus, Steve Hutchinson, Aaron Shea, Tai Streets, David Terrell, Anthony Thomas, Jermane Tuman, Justin Fargas, etc.
That's a lot of NFL talent.
And double check that Stanford team around Luck. I mean, there are some very productive pros from that team...
My early impression is while he shows better than some recent former Ohio St Qbs, he still isn't all that and a bag of chips either if stuck on an offense like the Giants (only an example).
Wait until the college playoffs to review him better, if we have them and they make it.
Damn, a bust already. Because he is going to get picked pretty quickly next spring.
Fields is going to be a top 5 or so pick in the NFL draft.
Your post says he is just like many past Ohio St Qbs that have failed in the NFL because he can't read the field.
That's saying he will bust.
Let me correct this. At Georgia, Smart was too stupid to play Eason or Fields over Fromm. As a result, Georgia could never get over the hump largely due to Fromm’s limitations.
This was validated at last year’s draft where Eason was drafted ahead of Fromm. And it was be validated at this next draft when Fields is a high firster.
You say Fields isn’t athletic. But them you say he gets by with size and strength. He’s 6’3” 225 and runs a 4.5. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL?
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At Georgia couldn’t get passed Fromm. At Ohio state he looks every bit the same as every QB who walks through those doors. Athletic QB throwing to open WRs all day. Can’t read the field. Isn’t overly athletic. Gets by with size and strength in college as far as avoiding rushers etc. in the NFL that isn’t going to fly.
Let me correct this. At Georgia, Smart was too stupid to play Eason or Fields over Fromm. As a result, Georgia could never get over the hump largely due to Fromm’s limitations.
This was validated at last year’s draft where Eason was drafted ahead of Fromm. And it was be validated at this next draft when Fields is a high firster.
You say Fields isn’t athletic. But them you say he gets by with size and strength. He’s 6’3” 225 and runs a 4.5. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL?
Correct. Pretty obvious what I wrote. He’s very athletic and big FOR COLLEGE. Like hurts was right? Hurts was a superior athlete in college running withthe ball. At the next level he isn’t fast he isn’t overly powerful. It happens every year. Fields the other day sits in the pocket. Doesn’t feel the blitz. Doesn’t recognize the defense. The sacks he avoids in college are sacks in the nfl. Simmons all over agin. I’ll stop
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At Georgia couldn’t get passed Fromm. At Ohio state he looks every bit the same as every QB who walks through those doors. Athletic QB throwing to open WRs all day. Can’t read the field. Isn’t overly athletic. Gets by with size and strength in college as far as avoiding rushers etc. in the NFL that isn’t going to fly.
Let me correct this. At Georgia, Smart was too stupid to play Eason or Fields over Fromm. As a result, Georgia could never get over the hump largely due to Fromm’s limitations.
This was validated at last year’s draft where Eason was drafted ahead of Fromm. And it was be validated at this next draft when Fields is a high firster.
You say Fields isn’t athletic. But them you say he gets by with size and strength. He’s 6’3” 225 and runs a 4.5. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL?
You aren’t correcting shit. Georgia tried to hand feed him the job but he sucked. Every time he rotated in it was like the wasted plays with Hurts in Philly. They didnt give him the job so he transferred.
The other concerning thing I saw yesterday besides his play was his sad puppy dog face on the sideline after the win. His defense bails him out and heavy more concerned about his run for the Heisman and his draft status.
You aren’t correcting shit. Georgia tried to hand feed him the job but he sucked. Every time he rotated in it was like the wasted plays with Hurts in Philly. They didnt give him the job so he transferred.
The other concerning thing I saw yesterday besides his play was his sad puppy dog face on the sideline after the win. His defense bails him out and heavy more concerned about his run for the Heisman and his draft status.
Sounds like you drink from the same Kool-Aid glass as Kirby Smart. How does it look now for Fields under Day's guidance versus Smart's?
Do you think Smart would rather have Fields right now or stick with his current dynamic duo of Stetson Bennett and JT Daniels?
Fields did not play well yesterday. That happens. We'll see how he responds moving forward.
Correct. Pretty obvious what I wrote. He’s very athletic and big FOR COLLEGE. Like hurts was right? Hurts was a superior athlete in college running withthe ball. At the next level he isn’t fast he isn’t overly powerful. It happens every year. Fields the other day sits in the pocket. Doesn’t feel the blitz. Doesn’t recognize the defense. The sacks he avoids in college are sacks in the nfl. Simmons all over agin. I’ll stop
Fields throws the ball better left handed than Hurts threw the ball right handed. Terrible comparison between the two. One has arm talent, one doesn't. And one understand how to play in the pocket, the other has no idea.
Why do you think Saban benched Hurts for the freshman Tua? Because Hurts was not a serious passing threat...
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At Georgia couldn’t get passed Fromm. At Ohio state he looks every bit the same as every QB who walks through those doors. Athletic QB throwing to open WRs all day. Can’t read the field. Isn’t overly athletic. Gets by with size and strength in college as far as avoiding rushers etc. in the NFL that isn’t going to fly.
Let me correct this. At Georgia, Smart was too stupid to play Eason or Fields over Fromm. As a result, Georgia could never get over the hump largely due to Fromm’s limitations.
This was validated at last year’s draft where Eason was drafted ahead of Fromm. And it was be validated at this next draft when Fields is a high firster.
You say Fields isn’t athletic. But them you say he gets by with size and strength. He’s 6’3” 225 and runs a 4.5. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL?
Correct. Pretty obvious what I wrote. He’s very athletic and big FOR COLLEGE. Like hurts was right? Hurts was a superior athlete in college running withthe ball. At the next level he isn’t fast he isn’t overly powerful. It happens every year. Fields the other day sits in the pocket. Doesn’t feel the blitz. Doesn’t recognize the defense. The sacks he avoids in college are sacks in the nfl. Simmons all over agin. I’ll stop
He is not Hurts. Because he had a bad game against Indiana, he's already a bust? To me, he's no worse than Dad Presocot. He was highly decorated coming out of high school, and there were some who thought he was better than Trevor Lawrence.
No-one knows what lies ahead, but comparing him to every other Ohio State QB is pretty asinine to me.