Shitty day here in Florida so parking my ass in front of couch this afternoon.
Anyone got any action today? Took Indiana +21, really like what they are building over there and could easily see a backdoor cover in play with Ohio State's defense not up to their admittedly high standard.
Of course OK-OK State later is always a good one.
42-35.
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
He's been lights out this year...and this game, too.
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In comment 15053098 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
Agreed.
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wide open player on that 4th down. Sorry but I do not see anything special.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
What's your point? Had zero to do with whether he made play or not it was after the fact.
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In comment 15053098 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
The difference being is the big question is what does he look like under pressure because it's so rare to see on film. Players have bad games, but the one time he's under pressure the results weren't good. He'll probably only have 1 or 2 or more opportunities to show what he is about this year.
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In comment 15053149 section125 said:
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wide open player on that 4th down. Sorry but I do not see anything special.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
What's your point? Had zero to do with whether he made play or not it was after the fact.
My point is knowing he was about to get drilled in the face caused Fields to be off target.
Very good case can be made he's the Heisman front runner.
Vandy is bad...so this game was a virtual walkover for the Gators.
I think everyone needs to be objective and stop automatically anointing this kid as a future great and top draft pick. Time will tell. However I will say again that an OSU QB rolling up impressive stats versus Rutgers is meaningless in regards of how good he would in the NFL.
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wide open player on that 4th down. Sorry but I do not see anything special.
He got speared in the helmet. That should have been targeting.
Bullshit. Just because a partisan announcer said it doesn't make it true. FOX didn't even replay it to show it. NCAA does a great job with the booth review ref watching. If it was targeting it would have been called. Indiana did not even rush to get the play off.
The difference being is the big question is what does he look like under pressure because it's so rare to see on film. Players have bad games, but the one time he's under pressure the results weren't good. He'll probably only have 1 or 2 or more opportunities to show what he is about this year.
I get it. I've seen Fields make some terrific throws under pressure. I also realize the other team gets paid, too, and they can make the QB uncomfortable. That's what Indiana get a few times today. Kudos to Allen and his staff for finding a weak spot in the OSU protection and exploiting it...
Bullshit. Just because a partisan announcer said it doesn't make it true. FOX didn't even replay it to show it. NCAA does a great job with the booth review ref watching. If it was targeting it would have been called. Indiana did not even rush to get the play off.
Actually Fox did show it once. Looked like targeting to me. But I would have liked to see another angle to confirm.
What partisan announcer are you talking about, btw?
I think everyone needs to be objective and stop automatically anointing this kid as a future great and top draft pick. Time will tell. However I will say again that an OSU QB rolling up impressive stats versus Rutgers is meaningless in regards of how good he would in the NFL.
I actually don't get caught up in stats on these players (except maybe for sacks. I think that's a skill that conveys).
I look for arm talent, placement, accuracy, mobility, toughness, etc. I see many of those elements in those Fields. And one game where he makes some poor decision isn't going to suddenly make me pivot away.
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Bullshit. Just because a partisan announcer said it doesn't make it true. FOX didn't even replay it to show it. NCAA does a great job with the booth review ref watching. If it was targeting it would have been called. Indiana did not even rush to get the play off.
Actually Fox did show it once. Looked like targeting to me. But I would have liked to see another angle to confirm.
What partisan announcer are you talking about, btw?
Whomever was announcing. It was clear who they favored. I only saw the 4th quarter and could care less who won. But the subtle comments caught my attention. Doesn't really matter in all honesty.
But if the booth review ref did not call down, doubtful it was targeting. Those guy rarely miss a bad hit.
Not sure about the rest though.
I agree that Field looked flustered at times. And I don't discard what happened today. Just more data to consider.
And I haven't been on Field as a can't miss since high school. I have pointed out that he's been a highly ranking prospect for much of his career. So I think he's made to handle the pressure of expectations.
Whomever was announcing. It was clear who they favored. I only saw the 4th quarter and could care less who won. But the subtle comments caught my attention. Doesn't really matter in all honesty.
But if the booth review ref did not call down, doubtful it was targeting. Those guy rarely miss a bad hit.
Johnson and Klatt are pretty good and fair in my mind. Klatt, I believe, is one of the best both analysts in the game.
Big games against top competition. That’s what makes top picks.
although a player failed the 3rd party test, Clemson followed ACC protocol so they were eligible to play a/t ACC rules. the FSU medical team was not "comfortable" playing so the game is postponed.
Wait...doesn't he play with a top OL, other great WRs, a great RB, a good TE, and a very good QB?
I mean, who couldn't succeed with those pieces... ;)
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is creating records at WR.
Wait...doesn't he play with a top OL, other great WRs, a great RB, a good TE, and a very good QB?
I mean, who couldn't succeed with those pieces... ;)
He’s the piece that I like best.
Should be in that range this year...
Should be in that range this year...
Yeah. He will be one of those names we discuss in a few months for NYG.
Not a big fan of first round WRs but nevertheless
Not sure about the rest though.
Love Trask, he would be a great pick for someone with a veteran QB in place they are looking to replace in a year or two. My worries with these pure pocket passers now is that everyone is o impatient and they take longer to develop as they can't rely on their legs.
They look like a team on COVID
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In comment 15053098 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
Not anymore. If fans have an agenda all it takes is one bad game to prove them right, hell all it takes is one bad play.
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In comment 15053098 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Straight terrible.
Anyone who watches this kid and thinks top 5 franchise QB is crazy. Looks like a classic bust.
I've been watching college football for a long time.
I saw Peyton Manning have several poor games at Tennessee. I saw Andrew Luck have play badly at Stanford.
I saw Eli Manning lay eggs at Ole Miss.
I saw Cam Newton stink it up at Auburn.
I saw Aikman look horrible at UCLA.
I saw Aaron Rodgers look average at Cal.
I saw Trevor Lawrence look ordinary at Clemson.
In other words, players have bad games. If you are expecting lights out play game after game after game, you're irrational.
I dont think I can buy this argument. None of the players you mentioned in that list other than Lawrence had the NFL caliber talent around them that Fields has playing against the by far lesser competition in the current Big 10. I think nobody was drafted from Ole Miss other than Eli his draft year.
Fields has ability, but what I think I and other posters are saying is that he never overcomes adversity. Like Lawrence in that national title game was facing a Alabam D that was up in his ass all game and was an all world D personnel wise. Lawrence made significant plays when under pressure and when the defense had everything covered. Havent seen Fields do that yet.
Figures that the minute the Badgers get a 5 star QB their running game disappears and their WRs are out.
Beat Minnesota next week..
COVID hurt them.
Evanston continues to be a house of horrors for Bucky.
Should have consulted with Badger fans..
Not anymore. If fans have an agenda all it takes is one bad game to prove them right, hell all it takes is one bad play.
That's pretty widespread across the media, too. I would imagine by Monday you will hear on national media how Fields took a major step back.
Hell, I heard it today around the third quarter when I ran an errand. I was in my truck and the host of Mad Dog radio was saying Field was looking like another "typical Ohio State QB"...just based on the fact that Field actually/finally threw an interception this year.
Unless he's completing 80% of his passes at 12+ YPA with 4 TDs and 0 INTs Fields isn't doing his job...
I dont think I can buy this argument. None of the players you mentioned in that list other than Lawrence had the NFL caliber talent around them that Fields has playing against the by far lesser competition in the current Big 10. I think nobody was drafted from Ole Miss other than Eli his draft year.
Fields has ability, but what I think I and other posters are saying is that he never overcomes adversity. Like Lawrence in that national title game was facing a Alabam D that was up in his ass all game and was an all world D personnel wise. Lawrence made significant plays when under pressure and when the defense had everything covered. Havent seen Fields do that yet.
You don't think guys like Manning and Luck were surrounded by NFL talent?
Manning played with Marcus Nash, Peerless Price, Leonard Little, Shaun Ellis, Terry Fair, etc. That team was loaded.
Luck played with Tyler Gafney, Zach Wertz, Coby Fleener, Ty Montgomery, Chris Owusu, David DeCastro, Cam Fleming, Trent Murphy, etc.
Those teams were loaded.
I agree that it would help Fields to show that he can overcome more adversity. So how does he do that? Transfer to Vanderbilt?