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Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 9:19 am
Man do I have some predicaments today and pretty much need to win out.

Jonathan Taylor or JD McKissic?
My worries here are that WFT controls the football game and in that situation JD barely plays, althought Rivera said he wants him to be a part of the offense moving forward. On the flip side of that Taylor has struggled of late and had carries cut back, but I could easily see him getting a couple red zone TDs against this weak run D.

Is DJ Moore playable with no Teddy?

Michael Thomas - super excited for him with Jameis and that got ripped out from under me. What is his production going to look like with Hill?

Have Boyd on my bench, but he's a tough start this week considering the matchup.
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26.2 : 11/22/2020 9:22 am : link
Have a similar situation with Robby Anderson for my flex spot. My other option is Duke Johnson vs. NE.
I have Fulgham in my flex and he's another toss up now  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 9:25 am : link
considering the weather. Feel like my decisions today are going to make or break my fantasy year. Hate having to think about fantasy on game day.
I like McKissik...  
EricJ : 11/22/2020 9:50 am : link
and I am likely benching Thomas for Jakobi Meyers. I cannot risk a shitty performance from Thomas this week. I really need this win. So, Meyers has been producing every week and appears to be Cam's favorite target
Michael Thomas  
Mike in NY : 11/22/2020 9:52 am : link
D.J. Chark vs. PIT

Choose one. Being burned by Devante Parker before I don’t want to go to that well even if Denver’s D sucks.
McKissic without question.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/22/2020 9:52 am : link
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RE: Michael Thomas  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 9:54 am : link
In comment 15053546 Mike in NY said:
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D.J. Chark vs. PIT

Choose one. Being burned by Devante Parker before I don’t want to go to that well even if Denver’s D sucks.


I'd go with Thomas, close but Thomas
Which WR2  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 9:57 am : link
in PPR:

Claypool @JAX
DJ Moore vs DET
Will Fuller vs NE
Pittman vs GB

I have Claypool in now, but Fuller is the highest projected. Then Moore, then Claypool.

Also, after you decide WR2 would you start any of them at flex over either

Jacobs vs KC
Sanders @CLE
Cook vs DAL

My lineup right now has those three RB's (two at RB, one at flex), Keenan Allen, Claypool at WR, Mahomes at QB and Andrews at TE.
I could always drop Parker  
Mike in NY : 11/22/2020 9:57 am : link
My FA options are Michael Pittman, Breshard Perriman, Marvin Hall, Quintez Cephus
RE: Which WR2  
Mike in NY : 11/22/2020 9:59 am : link
In comment 15053550 pjcas18 said:
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in PPR:

Claypool @JAX
DJ Moore vs DET
Will Fuller vs NE
Pittman vs GB

I have Claypool in now, but Fuller is the highest projected. Then Moore, then Claypool.

Also, after you decide WR2 would you start any of them at flex over either

Jacobs vs KC
Sanders @CLE
Cook vs DAL

My lineup right now has those three RB's (two at RB, one at flex), Keenan Allen, Claypool at WR, Mahomes at QB and Andrews at TE.


I think you shouldn’t second guess yourself especially if Bridgewater doesn’t play
Multiple Questions  
Eli Wilson : 11/22/2020 10:05 am : link
QB
T Hill or A Smith

WR
Fulgham, AJ Brown or J Jefferson

Flex
Same as WR, plus A Peterson (no Swift)
Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 11:05 am : link
a genius he is? After a very dissappoining season I thought he was poised to be a top 5 guy with Jameis at QB. Now what?

Struggling to bench Thomas against this matchup, but would Fulgham be the better play, even with the weather?
Help  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 11:08 am : link
What I have now:

Melvin Gordon vs Dolphins
Salvon Ahmed @ Broncos
Flex: A.J. Brown @ Ravens

Bench:
Adrian Peterson @ Panthers (Swift Out)
Darrell Henderson @ Buccaneers
Nyhiem Hines vs Packers

Feels like no matter what I do it's going to be wrong.
Adrian Peterson,Rex Burkhead & Jerry Jeudy  
TheMick7 : 11/22/2020 11:11 am : link
Need to start 2 of 3 Opinions???
RE: Adrian Peterson,Rex Burkhead & Jerry Jeudy  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 11:13 am : link
In comment 15053589 TheMick7 said:
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Need to start 2 of 3 Opinions???


I would bench Burkhead. Don't chase last week's fantasy points.
RE: RE: Adrian Peterson,Rex Burkhead & Jerry Jeudy  
TheMick7 : 11/22/2020 11:17 am : link
In comment 15053592 allstarjim said:
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Need to start 2 of 3 Opinions???



I would bench Burkhead. Don't chase last week's fantasy points.


That's how I was leaning,especially with Michel activated!
RE: Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 11:18 am : link
In comment 15053586 Zeke's Alibi said:
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a genius he is? After a very dissappoining season I thought he was poised to be a top 5 guy with Jameis at QB. Now what?

Struggling to bench Thomas against this matchup, but would Fulgham be the better play, even with the weather?


Yes I am. I'm benching Thomas for AP in my flex, have A.J. Brown and Metcalf in WR slots. But I would bench him for guys like Smith Schuster, Antonio Brown, and Cooper Kupp as well.

He is a TD dependent dart throw, IMO.

Looks like Teddy is playing based on the line today and its moving  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 11:19 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: Adrian Peterson,Rex Burkhead & Jerry Jeudy  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 11:20 am : link
In comment 15053597 TheMick7 said:
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Need to start 2 of 3 Opinions???



I would bench Burkhead. Don't chase last week's fantasy points.



That's how I was leaning,especially with Michel activated!


I think the Harris-Michel dynamic is interesting. I think Michel doesn't get a lot of work this week, and could see Bill Belichick falling in love with Harris. Only problem is Cam pilfering goal line TDs.
Does anyone have any input on my above dilemma?  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 11:20 am : link
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RE: Help  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 11:27 am : link
In comment 15053588 allstarjim said:
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What I have now:

Melvin Gordon vs Dolphins
Salvon Ahmed @ Broncos
Flex: A.J. Brown @ Ravens

Bench:
Adrian Peterson @ Panthers (Swift Out)
Darrell Henderson @ Buccaneers
Nyhiem Hines vs Packers

Feels like no matter what I do it's going to be wrong.


I'd figure out a way to get Hines off the bench. Potential for a big one there. I'd probably bench Ahmed.
Who would you pick at RB2 - 1 PPR?  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/22/2020 11:32 am : link
Injury issues for me mean I gotta start one of these guys:

Damien Harris vs. Houston
Nyheim Hines vs. GB

Both coming off big games, but both offenses are a pain in the ass for RB owners. I am leaning Hines because 1 PPR.
Looks like I'm in the same spot as allstarjim LOL!  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/22/2020 11:33 am : link
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RE: RE: Help  
LBH15 : 11/22/2020 11:40 am : link
In comment 15053611 Zeke's Alibi said:
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What I have now:

Melvin Gordon vs Dolphins
Salvon Ahmed @ Broncos
Flex: A.J. Brown @ Ravens

Bench:
Adrian Peterson @ Panthers (Swift Out)
Darrell Henderson @ Buccaneers
Nyhiem Hines vs Packers

Feels like no matter what I do it's going to be wrong.



I'd figure out a way to get Hines off the bench. Potential for a big one there. I'd probably bench Ahmed.


Jim - I have a similar issue with Swift out. I am starting Hines, hoping that he either gets enough touches in normal game or they have to play catch up to the Packers and they throw him a lot of passes in second half to him.
Sony Michel  
UConn4523 : 11/22/2020 11:56 am : link
inactive.
PPR  
beatrixkiddo : 11/22/2020 11:56 am : link
Parker, AB or Pittman? I got Parker in but really a roll of the dice scenario.
RE: RE: Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 11:58 am : link
In comment 15053598 allstarjim said:
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a genius he is? After a very dissappoining season I thought he was poised to be a top 5 guy with Jameis at QB. Now what?

Struggling to bench Thomas against this matchup, but would Fulgham be the better play, even with the weather?



Yes I am. I'm benching Thomas for AP in my flex, have A.J. Brown and Metcalf in WR slots. But I would bench him for guys like Smith Schuster, Antonio Brown, and Cooper Kupp as well.

He is a TD dependent dart throw, IMO.


You're benching Michael Thomas for Adrian Peterson in your flex spot? I want to make sure there is no other AP. I know Swift is out, but man that's ballsy. Even with Hill/Winston I'd be hesitant to do that, but it's probably the right call.

I'm like Coughlin, I have a tendency to go down with the ship running my "stars" out there.

Because the way I look at it is if I lose with Thomas in there, I won't second guess myself, if I lose with AP in there it will piss me off for days.

Again though, probably the right call.

RE: RE: RE: Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
EricJ : 11/22/2020 12:00 pm : link
In comment 15053648 pjcas18 said:
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Because the way I look at it is if I lose with Thomas in there, I won't second guess myself, if I lose with AP in there it will piss me off for days.

Again though, probably the right call.


I have Thomas and he has not given me anything at all since he came back. Single digits each week. Now, nobody knows if he will even see targets.

At least AP is going to get volume.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 12:04 pm : link
In comment 15053650 EricJ said:
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Because the way I look at it is if I lose with Thomas in there, I won't second guess myself, if I lose with AP in there it will piss me off for days.

Again though, probably the right call.




I have Thomas and he has not given me anything at all since he came back. Single digits each week. Now, nobody knows if he will even see targets.

At least AP is going to get volume.


I know that's the shitty thing about having a player like Thomas coming off injury and in his situation.

He's 3 weeks back now, and I think the QB change may be better for him. We'll see.

I don't own Thomas in any league.
Marvin Hall or Nelson Agholor for my flex?  
alsoknownaskaz : 11/22/2020 12:04 pm : link
I know... it's a deep league
I’m not benching Thomas  
UConn4523 : 11/22/2020 12:05 pm : link
unless it’s for someone with massive reward to go along with the risk. In a PPR he’s getting 10 points off of 5 catches for 50 yards. What’s APs ceiling - 70 yards and a TD? He’s topped 50 twice with 2 TDs. If Carolina gets ahead in that game it’s going to be a tough go for AP.
I'm keeping Moore out there, even with Bridgewater out.  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 12:06 pm : link
Anyoone that watched the XFL this year knows PJ Walker can play. There are too many games I want to watch today.
RE: I’m not benching Thomas  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 12:09 pm : link
In comment 15053660 UConn4523 said:
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unless it’s for someone with massive reward to go along with the risk. In a PPR he’s getting 10 points off of 5 catches for 50 yards. What’s APs ceiling - 70 yards and a TD? He’s topped 50 twice with 2 TDs. If Carolina gets ahead in that game it’s going to be a tough go for AP.


Thats my thinking. Not benching Thomas unless he lays an egg this week. Really his last chance here, but hard to imagine Payton won't come up with something that won't take advantage of that secondary. Hill can sling the rock and scramble, I expect them to get him on the move. Going to be tough for Falcons with minimal film out there. I think that's some of the logic in this move. Go with Hill untill someone figures it out and then you can put in Jameis. Feel like Payton been drawing shit up all summer for this guy.
I’m in a super flex  
UConn4523 : 11/22/2020 12:14 pm : link
need to start 2 of Tannehill, Goff and Hill. Kinda want to sit Goff for Hill but I can’t help thinking that Monday night will be high scoring.
Actually I didn’t realize Titans  
UConn4523 : 11/22/2020 12:15 pm : link
are at Ravens, might have to sit Tannehill for Hill.
RE: I’m in a super flex  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 12:19 pm : link
In comment 15053674 UConn4523 said:
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need to start 2 of Tannehill, Goff and Hill. Kinda want to sit Goff for Hill but I can’t help thinking that Monday night will be high scoring.


Actually on the flip side of that. I think it's a defensive battle. Donald is going to dominate the middle and that's the way you beat Brady. Flip side of that Goff is awful under pressure. Hill may crush fantasy this week, can easily see him having 100 yards rushing. Tannehill is a tough one because I don't think they throw the ball that much.
RE: RE: RE: Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15053648 pjcas18 said:
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a genius he is? After a very dissappoining season I thought he was poised to be a top 5 guy with Jameis at QB. Now what?

Struggling to bench Thomas against this matchup, but would Fulgham be the better play, even with the weather?



Yes I am. I'm benching Thomas for AP in my flex, have A.J. Brown and Metcalf in WR slots. But I would bench him for guys like Smith Schuster, Antonio Brown, and Cooper Kupp as well.

He is a TD dependent dart throw, IMO.




You're benching Michael Thomas for Adrian Peterson in your flex spot? I want to make sure there is no other AP. I know Swift is out, but man that's ballsy. Even with Hill/Winston I'd be hesitant to do that, but it's probably the right call.

I'm like Coughlin, I have a tendency to go down with the ship running my "stars" out there.

Because the way I look at it is if I lose with Thomas in there, I won't second guess myself, if I lose with AP in there it will piss me off for days.

Again though, probably the right call.


Yes AP. I agree there's some limited upside there but I think the floor is much higher this week for him in a good matchup against the Panthers than Thomas is with Hill starting.
RE: Marvin Hall or Nelson Agholor for my flex?  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 12:27 pm : link
In comment 15053658 alsoknownaskaz said:
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I know... it's a deep league


Marvin Hall? You mean Marvin Jones? I think Marvin Jones would be the easy call here, especially with Golladay out.
RE: RE: Marvin Hall or Nelson Agholor for my flex?  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 12:42 pm : link
In comment 15053694 allstarjim said:
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I know... it's a deep league



Marvin Hall? You mean Marvin Jones? I think Marvin Jones would be the easy call here, especially with Golladay out.


Marvin Hall is also on DET, but Hall is a blazing stretch the field guy. 4.2 something 40. Bounced around the league a little until finding a home in DET (it seems).

Stafford is becoming more and more confident in Hall.

Need 2 in a .5 PPR  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 11/22/2020 12:44 pm : link
Hines vs GB
Ballage vs NYJ
Duke Johnson vs NE
Marvin Jones vs Carolina

Any help is appreciated
Damn  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 1:01 pm : link
look at that weather in CLE. I don't pay enough attention to weather.
RE: Damn  
UConn4523 : 11/22/2020 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15053717 pjcas18 said:
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look at that weather in CLE. I don't pay enough attention to weather.


It’s funny how it sneaks up on you. Weather has been relatively mild this football season (other than that Pats game a couple weeks back). I usually check for wind for kickers but I need remind myself it’s basically winter now for half the NFL and I need to check weather more often.
RE: RE: Damn  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2020 1:09 pm : link
In comment 15053720 UConn4523 said:
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look at that weather in CLE. I don't pay enough attention to weather.



It’s funny how it sneaks up on you. Weather has been relatively mild this football season (other than that Pats game a couple weeks back). I usually check for wind for kickers but I need remind myself it’s basically winter now for half the NFL and I need to check weather more often.


true, definitely more of a factor to pay attention to the rest of the way, especially obviously in the northern non-domes.
Detroit sucks donkey balls  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 3:46 pm : link
I mean, who didn't see this coming facing the VAUNTED defense of the Panthers? When you face that kind of juggernaut, of course you're going to be kicked in the balls repeatedly.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Any other Thomas owners pissed at Payton's need to prove what  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 4:05 pm : link
In comment 15053690 allstarjim said:
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Yes AP. I agree there's some limited upside there but I think the floor is much higher this week for him in a good matchup against the Panthers than Thomas is with Hill starting.


Real fantasy guru right here. FUCK. It's not like this was a must-win game or anything? Just watched Cam shit the bed so it's not like I'm going to get anymore out of Harris in overtime. Fuck Cam, fuck fantasy football.
Fuck Hayden Hurst, too  
allstarjim : 11/22/2020 4:06 pm : link
0 points. Really, assclown?
Last 3-4 years I’ve had no ff luck and the giants were even worse  
djm : 11/22/2020 4:37 pm : link
This year I’m finally enjoying football again. My FF BBi keeper team is lucky but also good, and I’ll fucking take it. I think I’ll win (Clinch) the division with today’s win. Also one game closer to the scoring title. If the giants win next week I won’t know what to do with myself. So Used to sorrow.
Michael Thomas has been a weirdo all year  
djm : 11/22/2020 4:40 pm : link
Hard to argue with anyone who benched him today. He wasn’t doing shit up until today.
I owned Thomas then I though about it. Not sure gow  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 4:58 pm : link
You can bench him unless you have some great option waiting. He’s an elite WR whose fully healthy against the worst pass defense in league.
RE: Detroit sucks donkey balls  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/22/2020 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15053948 allstarjim said:
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I mean, who didn't see this coming facing the VAUNTED defense of the Panthers? When you face that kind of juggernaut, of course you're going to be kicked in the balls repeatedly.


The Panthers defense isn’t bad. Plus it wasn’t hard to imagine Staffiord being ineffective today with that hand and no one to throw to
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