Eagles and WFT obviously, but XFL superstar PJ walker getting his first playing time in Carolina, Hill on the Saints, and Titans/Ravens (loser of that one I don't think makes playoffs in AFC)
Mayfield looks like he's not handling the rain well at all when throwing.
Said it on betting thread, but he has smaller hands, someothing to watch. Wouldn't press panic button on Browsn yet, Pederson always have Eagles coming out strong on that first drive. Need to hold them to FG here.
Yup, said it way back when but I’d love him on a rookie deal just wouldn’t want to be the team giving him the next big QB contract. He just isn’t at all good enough for that cost.
but if Eagles want to continue with Wentz, they need to build a superior offense around him. He can really elevate on offense like that. Of course to do that you need to essentially have no offense, but may be their best course of action.
That Wentz pick 6 was fucking beautiful. Hesitated on the open receiver. Gets crushed from a blitzing DB as he tries to dump it off. Floats a duck toward the flat and they bring it back to house! Perfect!
One of the things that I've missed the last 3 years...
getting screwed on a call. They caused a fumble - there was never a clear initial recovery, but the ball was batted back into the end zone, where Washington recovered as the defensive team.
It being ruled a fumble and recovery by Washington with a fumble on the return recovered in the end zone that is called a safety for Cincy.
There was a holding penalty that Washington can choose to accept, but Cincy will get 3 points.
Should be a fumble and a touchback since the Redskin who initially recovered never had possession before "refumbling"
getting screwed on a call. They caused a fumble - there was never a clear initial recovery, but the ball was batted back into the end zone, where Washington recovered as the defensive team.
It being ruled a fumble and recovery by Washington with a fumble on the return recovered in the end zone that is called a safety for Cincy.
There was a holding penalty that Washington can choose to accept, but Cincy will get 3 points.
Should be a fumble and a touchback since the Redskin who initially recovered never had possession before "refumbling"
we are in the largest market in the country (NY). There are no local teams playing right now... and we can watch just ONE game.
So, if I understand this correctly... it is due to the ridiculous TV contracts they have in NY. Correct? So, the NFL is getting paid to keep their product away from the eyes of the fans in the NY area.
When you think about all of the schemes the league has come up with in the past to generate interest (including playing games in the UK)... blocking them from being seen in NY is the most short sighted decision they could make.
we are in the largest market in the country (NY). There are no local teams playing right now... and we can watch just ONE game.
So, if I understand this correctly... it is due to the ridiculous TV contracts they have in NY. Correct? So, the NFL is getting paid to keep their product away from the eyes of the fans in the NY area.
When you think about all of the schemes the league has come up with in the past to generate interest (including playing games in the UK)... blocking them from being seen in NY is the most short sighted decision they could make.
we are in the largest market in the country (NY). There are no local teams playing right now... and we can watch just ONE game.
So, if I understand this correctly... it is due to the ridiculous TV contracts they have in NY. Correct? So, the NFL is getting paid to keep their product away from the eyes of the fans in the NY area.
When you think about all of the schemes the league has come up with in the past to generate interest (including playing games in the UK)... blocking them from being seen in NY is the most short sighted decision they could make.
Oh. You assume they care about the fans?
Hell no... I am saying they care about building the fan base and interest. Not saying they actually care about the fans.
Seems like too many decisions they make drive more people away.
Why? He's clearly a starting NFL QB in this league.
I was being sarcastic. However, (with quite a bit of time left in this game) the Browns have scored 10 points or less in 4 of their last 5 games. And today’s TD was on defense.
Why? He's clearly a starting NFL QB in this league.
I was being sarcastic. However, (with quite a bit of time left in this game) the Browns have scored 10 points or less in 4 of their last 5 games. And today’s TD was on defense.
The weather in Ohio has been absolute garbage and team right now has zero threat in the passing game outside Landry rigth now. And while the offensive line has played well in the run game, they don't pass block well. They are a run first team the way they are currently constructed and rightly so. But carry on.
The weather in Ohio has been absolute garbage and team right now has zero threat in the passing game outside Landry rigth now. And while the offensive line has played well in the run game, they don't pass block well. They are a run first team the way they are currently constructed and rightly so. But carry on.
There’s bad weather in Cleveland? I’m shocked. How dare anyone expect the former first overall pick to lead his offense to more than single digits in points more than once a month. And the reason they’re not even bothering to throw the ball on third down now isn’t the weather or weapons... it’s that Mayfield can’t be trusted not to commit a catastrophic turnover.
of leading this team to a TD against this defense. WFT wins today and beats Dallas on Thanksgiving and all of a sudden they are a real threat. Good defense and veteran QB?
you pay him when his contract is due. What's he going to look like when he doesn't have a massive talent advantage? Feel like another 1 and done year for them.
you pay him when his contract is due. What's he going to look like when he doesn't have a massive talent advantage? Feel like another 1 and done year for them.
Pederson's press conference tomorrow is going tk be a blood bath. He got snippy with reporters last week and it was really poorly received. After todays performance they're going to hammer him.
I wish I could repost a previous post, but if Jones can dial back the turnovers and gets comfortable behind his OL, Jones is far more attractive as QB.
Wentz, Mayfield suck. Everybody doesnt get a Pat Mahomes. Makes the throws, run when you can, be tough, put some players around him, dance hard techno
I wish I could repost a previous post, but if Jones can dial back the turnovers and gets comfortable behind his OL, Jones is far more attractive as QB.
Wentz, Mayfield suck. Everybody doesnt get a Pat Mahomes. Makes the throws, run when you can, be tough, put some players around him, dance hard techno
Knock on wood, but Jones is already doing that. That sack he took at the end of the Washington game would have been a fumble last year and hes cut down on throwing picks
...if they release him before next year they will have $60 million (!!!) of dead money. So yeah, they aren't getting rid of him.
Realistically they can't get rid of him until after 2022. And he costs so much that they can't afford to get him any quality offensive skill players.
Bummer.
Traded to Colts and they start over with another young QB. They need to rebuild anyway. Wouldn't shock me if it happened. Of course what the hell are you getting for Wentz? If you only have to pay him his salary and not all the bonuses what is that 15 million a year or so? Could see them getting a first for him in this situation.
...if they release him before next year they will have $60 million (!!!) of dead money. So yeah, they aren't getting rid of him.
Realistically they can't get rid of him until after 2022. And he costs so much that they can't afford to get him any quality offensive skill players.
Bummer.
Traded to Colts and they start over with another young QB. They need to rebuild anyway. Wouldn't shock me if it happened. Of course what the hell are you getting for Wentz? If you only have to pay him his salary and not all the bonuses what is that 15 million a year or so? Could see them getting a first for him in this situation.
Who the hell would give up a 1st round pick for him? The Eagles are over $70 million over next years cap so they cannot afford to absorb the cap hit required to trade him.
His plays exemplifies how impactful the QB position is. His decision making is literally taking points off the Eagles side and adding points to the opposition's side.
Almost every week the Eagles can point to specific plays with Wentz that clearly hurt the team.
His plays exemplifies how impactful the QB position is. His decision making is literally taking points off the Eagles side and adding points to the opposition's side.
Almost every week the Eagles can point to specific plays with Wentz that clearly hurt the team.
He is an absolute disaster right now.
They have to be thinking about benching him, right?
But then I began to barf in my mouth.
Thank god for Red Zone.
Said it on betting thread, but he has smaller hands, someothing to watch. Wouldn't press panic button on Browsn yet, Pederson always have Eagles coming out strong on that first drive. Need to hold them to FG here.
Not enough to warrant the #1 pick, but probably enough to get the Browns to the playoffs
He wildly overrated, why the media gives some guys a pass while others they jump on right away is hard to understand
+1
Agreed...take the 95 yd drive, momentum, and points
Also, CLE is ultra soft.
Yup, said it way back when but I’d love him on a rookie deal just wouldn’t want to be the team giving him the next big QB contract. He just isn’t at all good enough for that cost.
Falcons should've done the job in the divisional round but Matt Ryan proved once again he's a bitch.
Let's go Browns and Bengals!
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to go for it. Take the points and the lead in the slop.
Agreed...take the 95 yd drive, momentum, and points
Agreed. Especially in bad weather.
Jesus these coaches today are acting like its September. Point are at a premium at this poitn of year.
I don’t watch the Eagles every week, but has the Jalen Hurts thing worked even once this season?
You beat me to it. It’s like Bizzaro rookie year Lamar Jackson.
It being ruled a fumble and recovery by Washington with a fumble on the return recovered in the end zone that is called a safety for Cincy.
There was a holding penalty that Washington can choose to accept, but Cincy will get 3 points.
Should be a fumble and a touchback since the Redskin who initially recovered never had possession before "refumbling"
You mean the AFC North with the potentially 16-0 Steelers in it?
It being ruled a fumble and recovery by Washington with a fumble on the return recovered in the end zone that is called a safety for Cincy.
There was a holding penalty that Washington can choose to accept, but Cincy will get 3 points.
Should be a fumble and a touchback since the Redskin who initially recovered never had possession before "refumbling"
THANK YOU FOR THIS:)
So, if I understand this correctly... it is due to the ridiculous TV contracts they have in NY. Correct? So, the NFL is getting paid to keep their product away from the eyes of the fans in the NY area.
When you think about all of the schemes the league has come up with in the past to generate interest (including playing games in the UK)... blocking them from being seen in NY is the most short sighted decision they could make.
Yes, really.
Yes, really.
And son, if you can believe it, the New York Giants picked a Running Back second overall in the year 2018. It was a dark time.
So, if I understand this correctly... it is due to the ridiculous TV contracts they have in NY. Correct? So, the NFL is getting paid to keep their product away from the eyes of the fans in the NY area.
When you think about all of the schemes the league has come up with in the past to generate interest (including playing games in the UK)... blocking them from being seen in NY is the most short sighted decision they could make.
Oh. You assume they care about the fans?
He runs a sweet book club though.
The Ravens get a 3rd down stop and they call roughing the passer where Tannehill was hit at the waist.
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we are in the largest market in the country (NY). There are no local teams playing right now... and we can watch just ONE game.
So, if I understand this correctly... it is due to the ridiculous TV contracts they have in NY. Correct? So, the NFL is getting paid to keep their product away from the eyes of the fans in the NY area.
When you think about all of the schemes the league has come up with in the past to generate interest (including playing games in the UK)... blocking them from being seen in NY is the most short sighted decision they could make.
Oh. You assume they care about the fans?
Hell no... I am saying they care about building the fan base and interest. Not saying they actually care about the fans.
Seems like too many decisions they make drive more people away.
And preferably a sport that’s not football.
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weather city.
And preferably a sport that’s not football.
Why? He's clearly a starting NFL QB in this league.
Why? He's clearly a starting NFL QB in this league.
I was being sarcastic. However, (with quite a bit of time left in this game) the Browns have scored 10 points or less in 4 of their last 5 games. And today’s TD was on defense.
He’s been absolutely atrocious.
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Why? He's clearly a starting NFL QB in this league.
I was being sarcastic. However, (with quite a bit of time left in this game) the Browns have scored 10 points or less in 4 of their last 5 games. And today’s TD was on defense.
The weather in Ohio has been absolute garbage and team right now has zero threat in the passing game outside Landry rigth now. And while the offensive line has played well in the run game, they don't pass block well. They are a run first team the way they are currently constructed and rightly so. But carry on.
Yea I didnt think it was the same thing....but Im watchong on two monitors.
Is it a gruesome leg break?
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Ok, that is a lie. But that is how it feels.
Not impressed with either team. Browns should be killing the Eagles.
Better if a broken bone than a knee ligament. Hope for a speed recovery.
Theismann
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The weather in Ohio has been absolute garbage and team right now has zero threat in the passing game outside Landry rigth now. And while the offensive line has played well in the run game, they don't pass block well. They are a run first team the way they are currently constructed and rightly so. But carry on.
There’s bad weather in Cleveland? I’m shocked. How dare anyone expect the former first overall pick to lead his offense to more than single digits in points more than once a month. And the reason they’re not even bothering to throw the ball on third down now isn’t the weather or weapons... it’s that Mayfield can’t be trusted not to commit a catastrophic turnover.
Unfortunately so is WFT
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Better if a broken bone than a knee ligament. Hope for a speed recovery.
Just watched it....it looks Theisman/Smith territory
but we put up 27 on the birds and the browns offense has 3 pts through 3 qtrs.
Yes, it’s a shitty field, so there’s that.
Was it in pouring rain on grass?
Mayfield and Wentz at their worst look considerably worse than Jones at his worst. If he fixes the turnovers, Jones is a better player than both guys
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the Giants. Now has his second kick blocked vs. the Eagles.
Was it in pouring rain on grass?
They sure as heck don’t make it easy.
Plus 4 missed tackles...not his fault they can’t tackle!
Very good analogy
Speaking about Lamar.
I wish I could repost a previous post, but if Jones can dial back the turnovers and gets comfortable behind his OL, Jones is far more attractive as QB.
Wentz, Mayfield suck. Everybody doesnt get a Pat Mahomes. Makes the throws, run when you can, be tough, put some players around him, dance hard techno
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like really really bad
I wish I could repost a previous post, but if Jones can dial back the turnovers and gets comfortable behind his OL, Jones is far more attractive as QB.
Wentz, Mayfield suck. Everybody doesnt get a Pat Mahomes. Makes the throws, run when you can, be tough, put some players around him, dance hard techno
Knock on wood, but Jones is already doing that. That sack he took at the end of the Washington game would have been a fumble last year and hes cut down on throwing picks
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Oh, yes it is.
they cant continue to go with him much longer
Yes it fucking is.
And what the hell are the Eagles going to do with Wentz going forward? He is simply horrible.
I think it was actually defensive pass interference, but it was still a terrible throw.
My brother-in-law is an Eagles fan and he wants Wentz benched and for them to get rid of him this offseason.
Realistically they can't get rid of him until after 2022. And he costs so much that they can't afford to get him any quality offensive skill players.
Bummer.
Realistically they can't get rid of him until after 2022. And he costs so much that they can't afford to get him any quality offensive skill players.
Bummer.
Traded to Colts and they start over with another young QB. They need to rebuild anyway. Wouldn't shock me if it happened. Of course what the hell are you getting for Wentz? If you only have to pay him his salary and not all the bonuses what is that 15 million a year or so? Could see them getting a first for him in this situation.
That's a bad contract.
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...if they release him before next year they will have $60 million (!!!) of dead money. So yeah, they aren't getting rid of him.
Realistically they can't get rid of him until after 2022. And he costs so much that they can't afford to get him any quality offensive skill players.
Bummer.
Traded to Colts and they start over with another young QB. They need to rebuild anyway. Wouldn't shock me if it happened. Of course what the hell are you getting for Wentz? If you only have to pay him his salary and not all the bonuses what is that 15 million a year or so? Could see them getting a first for him in this situation.
Who the hell would give up a 1st round pick for him? The Eagles are over $70 million over next years cap so they cannot afford to absorb the cap hit required to trade him.
His plays exemplifies how impactful the QB position is. His decision making is literally taking points off the Eagles side and adding points to the opposition's side.
Almost every week the Eagles can point to specific plays with Wentz that clearly hurt the team.
He is an absolute disaster right now.
Yes, he would have been a nice consolation prize at RB in a proper trade down scenario in 2018.
His plays exemplifies how impactful the QB position is. His decision making is literally taking points off the Eagles side and adding points to the opposition's side.
Almost every week the Eagles can point to specific plays with Wentz that clearly hurt the team.
He is an absolute disaster right now.
They have to be thinking about benching him, right?
At this point, I would seriously consider benching him. But I have no confidence in Hurts. I think he's very one dimensional.
At this point, I would seriously consider benching him. But I have no confidence in Hurts. I think he's very one dimensional.
Haven’t seen him look good except for that 4qtr versus Giants several weeks ago. Not suggesting Hurts is the goods but Wentz looks lost.
The safety he took in the second half was like a rookie playing.
Good for us.