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Garrett on hot seat?

malslayer : 11/22/2020 11:36 am
Hope this is true.

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Why would you want him fired?  
Steve L : 11/22/2020 3:15 pm : link
That makes no sense.
RE: Why would you want him fired?  
chopperhatch : 11/22/2020 3:23 pm : link
In comment 15053894 Steve L said:
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That makes no sense.



Yea, I agree. I want Jones to get more comfortable with the system and add some weapons. I dont want yet another coach fired.
RE: Is this really some epiphany?  
mfsd : 11/22/2020 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15053739 Johnny5 said:
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Colombo and Garret came together... and Jones has regressed. Not really a stretch to think that with Judge firing Colombo there isn't at least some tension between Judge and Garrett.


Jones plays mistake free football for 2 weeks in a row. Philly win was the best game of his career.

BBI donkey sqaud: “Jones has regressed!”
Sometimes I forget how many stupid Giants fans exist out there  
Moondawg : 11/22/2020 4:22 pm : link
but BBI helps me remember.
Garrett  
upnyg : 11/22/2020 4:28 pm : link
is good. Just need a full season working with players and scheme. If he moves on his own, there's always Kitchen
Whatever Garrett was doing for the first 7 weeks  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/22/2020 4:33 pm : link
Created a version of Daniel Jones that was significantly worse than last year.

JLC is never right  
Ned In Atlanta : 11/22/2020 4:34 pm : link
So he’ll probably be extended
RE: Didn't Judge hire Garrett?  
bw in dc : 11/22/2020 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15053849 GeofromNJ said:
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And we're now supposed to think that ten games into the season, Judge thinks he made a mistake? Doesn't say much for Judge if Judge is now reversing his judgment.


That's never been clear. I could see a strong suggestion by Mara that Judge should hire Garrett because:

1. He's an experience play caller with HC experience.
2. He understand the NFCE.
3. He could help Judge navigate HC duties.
4. Mara has apparently always been fond of Garrett.
5. Garrett did good with Dak.
RE: RE: Didn't Judge hire Garrett?  
section125 : 11/22/2020 5:10 pm : link
In comment 15054044 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15053849 GeofromNJ said:


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And we're now supposed to think that ten games into the season, Judge thinks he made a mistake? Doesn't say much for Judge if Judge is now reversing his judgment.



That's never been clear. I could see a strong suggestion by Mara that Judge should hire Garrett because:

1. He's an experience play caller with HC experience.
2. He understand the NFCE.
3. He could help Judge navigate HC duties.
4. Mara has apparently always been fond of Garrett.
5. Garrett did good with Dak.


So, from what you posted above, is there any reason you would not hire Garrett?
RE: RE: RE: Didn't Judge hire Garrett?  
bw in dc : 11/22/2020 5:13 pm : link
In comment 15054060 section125 said:
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So, from what you posted above, is there any reason you would not hire Garrett?


I didn't have an issue with it.
Looks like La Canfora got exactly what he wanted  
widmerseyebrow : 11/22/2020 5:15 pm : link
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RE: re: Garrett on hot seat....hope not  
Scuzzlebutt : 11/22/2020 6:03 pm : link
In comment 15053668 malslayer said:
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loyalty, chain of command, and not undermining the head coach matters. Garret has a history of being a snake.


Can you provide an example of Garrett being a snake?
You can take the opposite of what’s  
MtDizzle : 11/22/2020 6:50 pm : link
reported here to the bank. Lacantfora is a grade A hack job.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Didn't Judge hire Garrett?  
section125 : 11/22/2020 6:56 pm : link
In comment 15054061 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15054060 section125 said:


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So, from what you posted above, is there any reason you would not hire Garrett?



I didn't have an issue with it.


He is who I hoped they took as OC and I have not lost faith at all.
La Canfora should be on the hot seat.  
Red Dog : 11/22/2020 7:08 pm : link
He's old garbage that is starting to stink.
Unless JG gets a HC gig, he’s not going anywhere  
Simms11 : 11/22/2020 7:09 pm : link
IMO. I think the offense is definitely coming around and I see Garrett trying to utilize the skill sets of the personnel on offense. He’s also seeing what works and continues to use it until it’s stopped. With that said, there’s been a few calls inside the Redzone that I was not good with. Bringing in the FB on short yardage and handing him the ball, which got stuffed. The jet sweeps to Engram or reverses inside the Redzone.....not going to succeed given the short field defenses have to cover. Anyway, you can see the offense gaining more confidence and with an improved Oline, will only get better IMO. Lastly, as others already mentioned, probably not a very good idea to give DJ his third OC and offensive scheme in last three years. Talk about stunting development.
I saw the author & immediately  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/22/2020 7:10 pm : link
disregarded it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Didn't Judge hire Garrett?  
bw in dc : 11/22/2020 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15054150 section125 said:
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He is who I hoped they took as OC and I have not lost faith at all.


I actually think he's done a nice job. He called a brilliant game against the Bucs. Jones just couldn't deliver.

I'm fine if we bring him back as of now. Let's see how the rest of the year plays out.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Didn't Judge hire Garrett?  
section125 : 11/22/2020 7:34 pm : link
In comment 15054175 bw in dc said:
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In comment 15054150 section125 said:


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He is who I hoped they took as OC and I have not lost faith at all.



I actually think he's done a nice job. He called a brilliant game against the Bucs. Jones just couldn't deliver.

I'm fine if we bring him back as of now. Let's see how the rest of the year plays out.


I still think he will opens it up a bit now that the line is better and the running game looks viable.
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Peppers : 11/22/2020 7:39 pm : link
The only truth to that article is that security basically told Colombo he was fired..

There's talk of Garrett stepping down at the end of the season but it's all speculation for now.
RE: There is so much film and information  
DavidinBMNY : 11/22/2020 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15053737 arniefez said:
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That’s available to the public that its easy for knowledgeable people to explain and show their critiques. Do some homework and some googling and you’ll see where articles like this are coming from. One guy on this thread talked about Garrett’s “schemes” being a strength. It’s actually 100% the opposite and there’s evidence that Judge has stepped in and changed what Garrett was a doing. If Garrett is the OC next year it will be because Mara won’t let Judge fire him.
Not necessarily. If Garrett is open minded, he could stick,
RE: RE: Is this really some epiphany?  
Johnny5 : 11/22/2020 8:12 pm : link
In comment 15053923 mfsd said:
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In comment 15053739 Johnny5 said:


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Colombo and Garret came together... and Jones has regressed. Not really a stretch to think that with Judge firing Colombo there isn't at least some tension between Judge and Garrett.



Jones plays mistake free football for 2 weeks in a row. Philly win was the best game of his career.

BBI donkey sqaud: “Jones has regressed!”

He has had two good games in a row but before that you could easily say he regressed from last year.

And what's a sqaud?
And BTW...  
Johnny5 : 11/22/2020 8:14 pm : link
... I didn't say it was right or wrong, good or bad. Just that it's not a stretch based on those things, plus what happened with Colombo.
Unfair to Garrett  
Jeffrey : 11/23/2020 8:14 am : link
No one can be excited with the offense this year and some of that has to be on Garrett. However he lost his best offensive weapon in Game 2, a starting LT before the season began, Shepard was out for several weeks and Andrew Thomas came in anything but ready for the NFL. He inherited an overrated Hernandez, a center who never played the position before, a suddenly aging RG and was forced to use a journeyman RT. The TE free agents have done nothing to fill a void. Did Jones regress because of Garrett, or is he simply not as good as some hoped? It took some time but the OC has adapted. Like some of the diversity we are starting to see in the offensive gameplan, but you can only do so much when the line cannot protect the QB.
He is saying it because of the Garret ties  
Tom from LI : 11/23/2020 8:22 am : link
to Columbo.

I take everything with a grain of salt.
There are  
mittenedman : 11/23/2020 8:32 am : link
rumblings that Garrett wants out after the year.

If that's the case, it's hard to keep him around even now. What's the point?

Judge tried to pry Brian Daboll away from the Bills. It will be interesting to see if there's anything he can do to get it done, this time around.
RE: There are  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/23/2020 8:37 am : link
In comment 15054552 mittenedman said:
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rumblings that Garrett wants out after the year.

If that's the case, it's hard to keep him around even now. What's the point?

Judge tried to pry Brian Daboll away from the Bills. It will be interesting to see if there's anything he can do to get it done, this time around.


Huh?? Hard to keep him around? Over "rumblings"?? That's a terrible take. You let a guy go because some hack is trying to stir the pot? That's not the way teams are run
I have to believe that Judge talked to Garrett about Colombo  
PatersonPlank : 11/23/2020 9:38 am : link
likely a few times. I certainly would expect he talked to Garrett, who is his direct employee, before the whole DD thing. I believe Garrett has been in the loop.

In general Garrett probably recommended Colombo and it didn't work out, a fact that Garrett probably acknowledges too. I know I have been in positions where I had an employee who wasn't working out, and my boss wanted to do something else. Eventually you give in because it just isn't worth the effort.
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