NFT: Knicks Trade

i mean a lot of the stuff you listed there doesnt matter, so it doesnt all have to happen. What has to happen is that one of RJ/Toppin has to look like an all star level player, Mitch has to be able to play 30+ minutes and take another step and we have to hit on the lottery pick. Those are really the only things that matter.

received cash as part of the Ed Davis deal

I didn't get a single lol on my ring protection Elijah Wood joke

says he is most comfortable playing the point and played off the ball because Calipari asked him to and that is what you do at Kentucky..

Says he was a pick and roll passer and learned to play off the ball

In comment 15054831 Jon in NYC said:

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I didn't get a single lol on my ring protection Elijah Wood joke

I've never seen a single Lord of the Rings (or Lord of the Rings related movie, or any of the 500 Fast and the Furious movies). So there's that lol

Fantasy stories with elves and goblins and whatever aren't my thing.

will wear #1

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will wear #1

Really embracing the Amare comparisons, huh

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says he is most comfortable playing the point and played off the ball because Calipari asked him to and that is what you do at Kentucky..

I've seen this elsewhere as well. Would be intriguing if he can play PG at the NBA level. At least one PG who can shoot a little would be helpful.

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says he is most comfortable playing the point and played off the ball because Calipari asked him to and that is what you do at Kentucky.. Says he was a pick and roll passer and learned to play off the ball

Thanks for posting that, interesting.
Think I read somewhere that Obi is potentially a deadly PnR player.
Could explain why Knicks were higher on Quickley than most.

"overdrafted" Quickley with the belief he could be developed into a legit PG?

Mark Jackson and Rod Sticklund come to find.

$4 million over 2 years. I would have kept him at that number.

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"overdrafted" Quickley with the belief he could be developed into a legit PG?

I think they over drafted his shooting.
He is definitely a tweener but has a good stroke and a very solid defender.
IMO he will never be starting PG but a good role player that can hit the open 3
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$4 million over 2 years. I would have kept him at that number.

Glad he is gone, he took some of the worst shots, got hot every 5 games..

Jist never liked him and he is already 26

Him and Obi talked on draft night, Toppin has already been in the building working out, Quickley went to get his covid test today so he can be in the building and start working out

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$4 million over 2 years. I would have kept him at that number.

Strange the Knicks showed no interest in bringing him back. Good shooter. Maybe they just view him as a Phil pick and want to move on?

Jonathan Macri
@JMacriNBA
Being told that the Knicks have opened dialogue with the Charlotte Hornets about a potential swap between Frank Ntilikina (sadly) and Terry Rozier

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Jonathan Macri @JMacriNBA Being told that the Knicks have opened dialogue with the Charlotte Hornets about a potential swap between Frank Ntilikina (sadly) and Terry Rozier

Marci just tweeted out that this is a fake account

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Jonathan Macri @JMacriNBA Being told that the Knicks have opened dialogue with the Charlotte Hornets about a potential swap between Frank Ntilikina (sadly) and Terry Rozier

I think this was from a fake account that Macri replied to

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Jonathan Macri @JMacriNBA Being told that the Knicks have opened dialogue with the Charlotte Hornets about a potential swap between Frank Ntilikina (sadly) and Terry Rozier

Apparently, this was a fake macri account?
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Sorry, dudes

think there is another trade coming. Too many repetitive pieces.

4, maybe 5 PGs is a notable one. Assuming they wont trade Rivers, Payton and Quickley, have to think Frank and/or DSJ is on the move.

Same with Randle, who is just blocking Toppin.

They're still also way below the salary floor.

They have to add 10 million by the end of the year..

They have to get rid of 1 guy before season starts..

They obviously have no trust in Frank or DSJ..

He's a decent three point shooter but nothing special. And he wasn't especially good at anything else, aside from playing hard.

that Brandon Ingram has not signed a conteact yet?

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that Brandon Ingram has not signed a conteact yet?

Not really. I believe they can go over the cap to retain him and there is no risk of losing him so it makes sense to wait.

And watch them scramble.

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And watch them scramble.

They don't have 50 million to offer. They have something like 30, Ingram isn't signing an offer sheet 1 for 30 when his max is 5 for 158.3

FWIW, there isn't anything punitive about being below the salary floor - you just pay up to it and it's split among the current players (so you end up paying the same amount but nothing more). Not sure if there are bad optics with players/agents about being below the floor. You also don't need to get there until the end of the year so there is a real advantage to having the most space going into the season - you can be a facilitator for trades and likely collect some assets for the effort.

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FWIW, there isn't anything punitive about being below the salary floor - you just pay up to it and it's split among the current players (so you end up paying the same amount but nothing more). Not sure if there are bad optics with players/agents about being below the floor. You also don't need to get there until the end of the year so there is a real advantage to having the most space going into the season - you can be a facilitator for trades and likely collect some assets for the effort.

Good point here. I remember one year with the Hinkie Sixers they were way below the salary floor and the players were excited they going to get a good amount of money split up. Problem was Hinkie traded for a big salaried player at the deadline to reach the minimum. Supposedly the team was very pissed about it.

Smith? Yes please. Do it Leon.

im fine with adding any former first rounder from the last couple years

Smith is 2 months older than Kevin Knox

“Outmaneuvered by Michael Jordan for Gordon Hayward.” LOL.

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“Outmaneuvered by Michael Jordan for Gordon Hayward.” LOL.

Kay should not be allowed to talk about anything but baseball. Hayward at 4 years and that money was something Isiah Thomas would have done.

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“Outmaneuvered by Michael Jordan for Gordon Hayward.” LOL.

Hr also said laat week the Kbicks should trade the 8th pick for Westbrook

Mitch (30)/Noel (18)
Obi (30)/Randle (18)
RJ (36)/Burks (12)
Rivers (30)/Burks (18)
Payton (24)/Frank (24)

Out of rotation:
Bullock
DSJ
Spellman
Quickley
Iggy
Harper
Knox
Pinson


There just has to be a trade. You can't have DSJ and Knox rot on the bench. Would love to find minutes for Quickley too, but I'm not sure where.

start Burks over Rivers. 39% from 3, 16.67 PER, .101 WS/48. He struggled in the playoffs otherwise I think he would have received a much better deal.

so i think you can find some guard minutes there for someone like Quickley or if knox earns some minutes you could play Burks and Rivers less then 30. Overall id love that rotation though.

In comment 15055154 Jon in NYC said:

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Mitch (30)/Noel (18) Obi (30)/Randle (18) RJ (36)/Burks (12) Rivers (30)/Burks (18) Payton (24)/Frank (24) Out of rotation: Bullock DSJ Spellman Quickley Iggy Harper Knox Pinson There just has to be a trade. You can't have DSJ and Knox rot on the bench. Would love to find minutes for Quickley too, but I'm not sure where.

I'd expect to see deeper rotation and flatter minute allotments in the first few weeks of the season. Going to be very interesting to see if any of these guys were able to really progress during the incredibly long offseason - and worth giving everyone enough burn to suss that out before making big moves I think.

sees frank as more of a 2/3 then a pg. Have they come out and said anything about that?

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start Burks over Rivers. 39% from 3, 16.67 PER, .101 WS/48. He struggled in the playoffs otherwise I think he would have received a much better deal.

I would start both and put the ball in Rjs hands

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so i think you can find some guard minutes there for someone like Quickley or if knox earns some minutes you could play Burks and Rivers less then 30. Overall id love that rotation though.

I don't think Rivers needs any minutes, personally

is enough to keep me interested for however many games we play this season.

right up against the hard cap

Knox is such a disappointment. That’s the main black eye of late (among others obviously) but we had a top 10 pick and seems won’t get a thing out of that pick. It was a downright terrible first round across the board though.

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Unless the Knicks engage the Pacers in a trade for scoring guard Victor Oladipo, this could be all she wrote. Embrace the rebuild. Indications are the Knicks have cooled on the idea of handing the keys to the franchise to Russell Westbrook. According to sources, Knicks GM Scott Perry, who drafted Oladipo when with Orlando, would like to explore that avenue, but Knicks president Leon Rose is less eager. Oladipo has yet to return to elite form since knee surgery nearly two years ago.

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Quote: Unless the Knicks engage the Pacers in a trade for scoring guard Victor Oladipo, this could be all she wrote. Embrace the rebuild. Indications are the Knicks have cooled on the idea of handing the keys to the franchise to Russell Westbrook. According to sources, Knicks GM Scott Perry, who drafted Oladipo when with Orlando, would like to explore that avenue, but Knicks president Leon Rose is less eager. Oladipo has yet to return to elite form since knee surgery nearly two years ago. BermanOfThePost - ( New Window )

Seems like Perry is just a figurehead at this point, Perrin, Aller and Wes are probably more highly thought of