WAS VS DAL preference

1. We’ve already beaten WAS twice so that tiebreaker is already done in our favor.

2. I’d rather DAL didn’t have much to play for in Week 17, if for instance we are fighting PHI and/or WAS in Week 17 rather than DAL.

3. It’s always a good day for DAL to lose.

I don't see how it's particularly close either, given their remaining schedule. Even at 3-7, Dallas should be favored in 4 of their next 5 games.

Team played well yesterday....I could see them getting in a role.....no need for that.

Root for Dallas to lose.

This fits nicely.

Dallas has an easy schedule and every time they don't win that is better for us.

They have the tougher schedule and we definitely have the tiebreaker versus gambling on Week 17 and we know what the league thinks of officiating in Giants/Cowboys games,

Dallas in Dallas.

:-)

In comment 15054462 Azul Grande said:

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1. We’ve already beaten WAS twice so that tiebreaker is already done in our favor. 2. I’d rather DAL didn’t have much to play for in Week 17, if for instance we are fighting PHI and/or WAS in Week 17 rather than DAL. 3. It’s always a good day for DAL to lose.

Sums it up. Dallas has an easier schedule left too. Washington isn't going to finish with seven wins.

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a WFT win and Dallas needing to play Gilbert or Minshew-lite the rest of the year?

with lots of hits on both QBs.

We don’t want Dallas to lose too often and get high picks in next years draft with Dak coming back healthy. If it can’t be us, let them win a crappy division and get their asses handed to them in their playoff game.

Thinking strategically here....

That's all that matters. I'm not worried about the playoffs or the rest of the division. Do things right and next year we're ready to rock.

In comment 15054557 dlauster said:

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We don’t want Dallas to lose too often and get high picks in next years draft with Dak coming back healthy. If it can’t be us, let them win a crappy division and get their asses handed to them in their playoff game. Thinking strategically here....

Worrying about the draft is foolish. So is assuming Dak comes back and is the same player he has been.

In comment 15054557 dlauster said:

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We don’t want Dallas to lose too often and get high picks in next years draft with Dak coming back healthy. If it can’t be us, let them win a crappy division and get their asses handed to them in their playoff game. Thinking strategically here....

Are you sure you are?

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Dallas in Dallas.

Of course they can. This isn't waltzing into a packed stadium against a quality team. WFT has the DL to swamp the Cowboys. They look fine against teams with bad DLs which is what Minnesota now has minus Ngakuoe, Griffen and Hunter that group is just bad. Stopping the WFT front isn't going to be easy and I expect WFT to win even with all of DAL weapons.

I want WFT to go 0-16 every season..

of the locals, and their Fffin Texas accents.

Washington, at least historically, had good knowledgable football fans and great coach in Joe Gibbs, and they now have a fine coach in Rivera...

I hate McCarthy's fat ass and they way he couldn't acknowledge Coghlin's Giants' stuffing of his teams TWICE in the playoffs, he's as ungracious as they come.
So he's perfect for the Cowboys, and I hope Rivera and the WTF and Alex Smith beat him and the Cowboys like a red headed step child.

Screw the Cowboys, especially on National TV, and extra especially that their only classy citizen, Dak Prescott, is on the sideline with a serious injury.

In comment 15054624 BelieveJJ said:

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of the locals, and their Fffin Texas accents. Washington, at least historically, had good knowledgable football fans and great coach in Joe Gibbs, and they now have a fine coach in Rivera... I hate McCarthy's fat ass and they way he couldn't acknowledge Coghlin's Giants' stuffing of his teams TWICE in the playoffs, he's as ungracious as they come. So he's perfect for the Cowboys, and I hope Rivera and the WTF and Alex Smith beat him and the Cowboys like a red headed step child. Screw the Cowboys, especially on National TV, and extra especially that their only classy citizen, Dak Prescott, is on the sideline with a serious injury.

AMEN brother!

It was interesting yesterday that in the NYC area, FOX showed GB at IND instead of DAL at MIN. Usually with no Giants game networks would put the Cowboys practicing their social distancing over any other game.

The idea Giants could be in play for the division, Dallas showed yesterday why it s silly to write teams off based on how they are playing at the moment, especially in this division.

Case in point, many have written off the Eagles.

I ve always felt it was tough going through a schedule picking wins and losses, was Dallas suppose to have a win yesterday?

But here is what I believe to be a reasonable take regarding this division:

7-9 has a very high probability of going by to the playoffs, 6-10 has a reasonable chance.

Giants have a chance to get to either of those, if they do and 1 of those 3 or 4 wins comes against Dallas, we have a good chance to be watching the Giants in the playoffs.

My long winded way of stating, l ll be rooting for Washington, but Giants in a sense control their own destiny so it really isn’t as important as it could be

As mentioned, DAL has the easiest road to the division title

In comment 15054662 joeinpa said:

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The idea Giants could be in play for the division, Dallas showed yesterday why it s silly to write teams off based on how they are playing at the moment, especially in this division. Case in point, many have written off the Eagles. I ve always felt it was tough going through a schedule picking wins and losses, was Dallas suppose to have a win yesterday? But here is what I believe to be a reasonable take regarding this division: 7-9 has a very high probability of going by to the playoffs, 6-10 has a reasonable chance. Giants have a chance to get to either of those, if they do and 1 of those 3 or 4 wins comes against Dallas, we have a good chance to be watching the Giants in the playoffs. My long winded way of stating, l ll be rooting for Washington, but Giants in a sense control their own destiny so it really isn’t as important as it could be

Only a fool would have written off Dallas with Dalton coming back and playing another mediocre team of the bye. Especially as they have looked better since they cut the malcontents. Vikes have been hot, but their defense is still trash.

I was shocked to see the Eagles as the favorites still. They have been playing garbage football and it would be a shock if they turned it around.

3 wins, as long as one of those is against Dallas, will get us to the playoffs. WFT would have lost to the Bengals at home if Burrow didn't blow up his leg. Now obviously COVID can hit, or some random big time injuries, but that should do it.

In comment 15054584 Joey in VA said:

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In comment 15054489 section125 said: Quote: Dallas in Dallas. Of course they can. This isn't waltzing into a packed stadium against a quality team. WFT has the DL to swamp the Cowboys. They look fine against teams with bad DLs which is what Minnesota now has minus Ngakuoe, Griffen and Hunter that group is just bad. Stopping the WFT front isn't going to be easy and I expect WFT to win even with all of DAL weapons.

Football is always a game of matchups. Vikes were 7 pt favorites because they were home and their offense has been hot, but that defense is still trash. Cowboys O looks functional with Dalton. Just like this week if the Giants O does'nt score at least 27 against this pitiful D we have major issues, even if we win. It's why I like us against Cards, but probably expect to lose the SEA game.

Here's our preferred scenario:

Week 12:
NYG W (CIN)
WAS W (DAL)
DAL L (WAS)
PHI L (SEA)

Standings:
NYG - 4-7
WAS - 4-7
PHI - 3-7-1
DAL - 3-8

Week 13
DAL L (BAL)
WAS L (PIT)
NYG L (SEA)
PHI L (GB)
Standings:
NYG - 4-8
WAS - 4-8
PHI - 3-8-1
DAL - 3-9

Week 14
Giants W (AZ in NJ)
DAL W (CIN)
PHI L (NO)
WAS L (SF)
Standings:
NYG - 5-8
WAS - 4-9
DAL - 4-9
PHI - 3-9-1

Week 15
WAS L (SEA)
NYG L (CLE)
PHI L (@AZ)
DAL L (SF)
Standings:
NYG - 5-9
WAS - 4-10
DAL - 4-10
PHI - 3-10-1

Week 16
NYG L (BAL)
WAS L (CAR)
PHI W (DAL)
DAL L (PHI)
Standings:
NYG - 5-10
PHI - 4-10-1
WAS - 4-11
DAL - 4-11

Going into the finale, Giants win and their in.

I know I have SF sweeping our NFC east counterparts, but lets face it, they are a team capable of playing well beyond their 4-6 record. Their record is more a reflection of a very tough division they've played in. They are the one team this year against the Giants that the Giants were not even a little bit competitive against.
Only real trickery here is we beat AZ and PHI loses to them, but remember that PHI has to go to PHI and we get them at home in December. Hoping that makes a difference.

Flip that game and this Thursday game becomes even more important.

An extra note: I really think the NYG needs to build upon its winning ways. Beating Cincy is a start. We need to beat at least one, of not two of the legit playoff contenders remaining on our schedule (SEA, AZ, CLE, BAL), not just to make the playoffs this year but for the team's long-term development.

DAL needs to lose this Thursday. Plus my Thanksgiving is always so much greater when I see Mr. Jerry Jones upset in his booth.

because who knows what the 49ers look like by the time Dallas plays them and Dallas gets Balt after they play the Steelers and like clockwork both those teams play like trash following their games with eachother. WFT probably loses to the Bengals at fucking home if Burrow was healthy.

all the way. I'm not crunching numbers (Thanks Ray!) but I'll let the chips fall where they may.

roots for.

Lets face it, the NFC East will not do much outside of the division, especially any strength outside the division. Instead of counting wins, it is easier to count losses.

Dal will lose to Bal and SF and the NYG will lose to Sea and Bal. That leaves Dal having to win 2 more games than NYG out of NYG (Cinn/Az/Clv) and Dal (Wash/Cinn/PHL). Even if Dal somehow sweeps, all's we would need is 2 wins out of Cinn/Az/Clv to make the last game the determining game.

In comment 15054727 stoneman said:

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Lets face it, the NFC East will not do much outside of the division, especially any strength outside the division. Instead of counting wins, it is easier to count losses. Dal will lose to Bal and SF and the NYG will lose to Sea and Bal. That leaves Dal having to win 2 more games than NYG out of NYG (Cinn/Az/Clv) and Dal (Wash/Cinn/PHL). Even if Dal somehow sweeps, all's we would need is 2 wins out of Cinn/Az/Clv to make the last game the determining game.

Dallas gets Baltimore after playing the Steelers and we actually match up very well with them. Writing off losses in the NFL is dumb. This division is not the same as it was playing in September, that much is clear.

Washington.

In comment 15054624 BelieveJJ said:

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of the locals, and their Fffin Texas accents. Washington, at least historically, had good knowledgable football fans and great coach in Joe Gibbs, and they now have a fine coach in Rivera... I hate McCarthy's fat ass and they way he couldn't acknowledge Coghlin's Giants' stuffing of his teams TWICE in the playoffs, he's as ungracious as they come. So he's perfect for the Cowboys, and I hope Rivera and the WTF and Alex Smith beat him and the Cowboys like a red headed step child. Screw the Cowboys, especially on National TV, and extra especially that their only classy citizen, Dak Prescott, is on the sideline with a serious injury.

This...except Dallas cheerleaders w Texas accents are acceptable....

Also, 4% is 4%, any way you slice it.

In comment 15054557 dlauster said:

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We don’t want Dallas to lose too often and get high picks in next years draft with Dak coming back healthy. If it can’t be us, let them win a crappy division and get their asses handed to them in their playoff game. Thinking strategically here....

We seem to be in the minority. I agree with you.

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Dallas in Dallas.

Dallas still has all sorts of problems. Skins aren't that bad

We play Dallas the last game so in a sense we control our own destiny if Dallas is the team to beat for division

So In one sense we should root for Dallas to beat Wash

in any way, shape or form. Doesn't matter if it's the first game of the year or the last.

If Wash wins I don't like it, but can deal with it.

In comment 15054760 Zeke's Alibi said:

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In comment 15054727 stoneman said: Quote: Lets face it, the NFC East will not do much outside of the division, especially any strength outside the division. Instead of counting wins, it is easier to count losses. Dal will lose to Bal and SF and the NYG will lose to Sea and Bal. That leaves Dal having to win 2 more games than NYG out of NYG (Cinn/Az/Clv) and Dal (Wash/Cinn/PHL). Even if Dal somehow sweeps, all's we would need is 2 wins out of Cinn/Az/Clv to make the last game the determining game. Dallas gets Baltimore after playing the Steelers and we actually match up very well with them. Writing off losses in the NFL is dumb. This division is not the same as it was playing in September, that much is clear.

I agree. There's a handful of teams trending upward right now and a bunch trending downward. This is such a unique year that I don't know how any team that gets into the dance can be counted out.

Ohh and the ultimate wildcard is the playoffs will be happening during COVID still. Look at the big names likely out this week - it isn't going to magically go away for the playoffs.

1) one hate Dallas more.
2) Dallas schedule is easier
3) we beat Washington twice and hold tie breaker
4) small but a home loss is always better (covid less impt)

It’s better for the Giants if Wash wins.