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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 10:11 am
Sandy to update the media at 4:30 on the ongoing search for FO hires.
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Billy  
DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 4:48 pm : link
Owens 20 years in the league, Bobby Heck 25, Michael Hill also 25. Sandy both mentioned youth and extensive experience so it's hard to say what he's looking for.
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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 4:49 pm : link
Joe DeMayo
@PSLToFlushing
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1m
Sandy Alderson doesn't expect to get down in the weeds in baseball operations, but he will be more involved. He also hopes to be able to "mentor" a GM that is capable of handling the decision by decision role that is common for a GM.
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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 4:59 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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8m
Sandy Alderson says the Mets will not consider releasing Robinson Canó, who is due $48 million in 2022-23, "at this point." But that could change "down the road."

"We're just dealing with the initial impact of this on our roster, on our planning," Alderson said.
Some thoughts that stand out from Sandy's comments  
Eric on Li : 11/23/2020 5:11 pm : link
at least his comments per twitter.

Great that he acknowledges they are multiple pieces away (since they are).
Great that they are going to negotiate to extend Conforto. It's up to him but I think he'll be open to it.
Interesting they've interviewed 6 GM candidates and we don't really know much about it. Nice to see the organization run a process without leaks.
Good to see Rojas get another season. For a rookie manager he appeared to have guts.
Also good to see he's not opposed to staff changes (I believe Rojas hadn't been involved in picking most of them in the first place).

I actually think hiring a president of baseball ops would have been an extra complication that possibly wasn't worth it this year since Sandy is in a better position to know what's here than anyone else from the outside. Get a GM with a pedigree and fresh point of view and that's a good start for year 1.
One  
DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 5:20 pm : link
"downside" is Rojas is going to be under pressure to win right away. A slow start and he's a goner. Assuming he's back, Hensley Meulens has to be licking his chops.
RE: One  
Eric on Li : 11/23/2020 5:25 pm : link
In comment 15055194 DanMetroMan said:
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"downside" is Rojas is going to be under pressure to win right away. A slow start and he's a goner. Assuming he's back, Hensley Meulens has to be licking his chops.


As it should be for any manager of a team trying to contend (especially one in year 2).

The bigger opportunity now is for whoever the new GM is. No president of ops, Sandy filling a role temporarily that he is likely to be willing to cede, and a very clear path to a clean slate next year if they want to make a managerial change.

If they bring in a really good GM who turns heads it could really change the way they view the power dynamic in the FO next year and beyond (or whenever Sandy's role changes).
just saw that Sandy said they are looking for someone who can grow  
Eric on Li : 11/23/2020 5:29 pm : link
into the President role. One would think that kind of potential autonomy makes it a lot more appealing.
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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 5:32 pm : link
Pretty impressive NONE of the writers have been able to report on any of the 6 that have been interviewed. Of course, Michael Hill conceivably could be one of the 6
MLBTR  
DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 5:33 pm : link
has Narvaez "only" getting 3 million so I'd be surprised if he's actually non-tendered but I hope he is.
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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 5:46 pm : link
Absolutely no idea if he's on the short-list but Dan Kantrovitz is highly regarded, went to an Ivy-league school, and has Oakland ties to Sandy
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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 5:53 pm : link
Kantrovitz has been talked up for a while. With Hoyer now set as the head honcho, the Mets job would seemingly be appealing know potentially being "the man" ala Theo/Hoyer would be possible.
Kohei Arihara  
DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 6:51 pm : link
to be posted
Braves  
DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 6:59 pm : link
aggressively in on Morton, also talking to TB about Snell. They are a very good team as is.
RE: Braves  
Eric on Li : 11/23/2020 7:31 pm : link
In comment 15055247 DanMetroMan said:
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aggressively in on Morton, also talking to TB about Snell. They are a very good team as is.


Their lineup is as legit as it gets. Freeman and Ocuna are all world. We are fortunate they have no money and their pitching is meh.
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Rory : 11/23/2020 11:06 pm : link
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aggressively in on Morton, also talking to TB about Snell. They are a very good team as is.



Their lineup is as legit as it gets. Freeman and Ocuna are all world. We are fortunate they have no money and their pitching is meh.


Crazy that you say that bc 2 years ago the Braves pitching was unreal.
RE: RE: RE: Braves  
Eric on Li : 11/23/2020 11:57 pm : link
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aggressively in on Morton, also talking to TB about Snell. They are a very good team as is.



Their lineup is as legit as it gets. Freeman and Ocuna are all world. We are fortunate they have no money and their pitching is meh.



Crazy that you say that bc 2 years ago the Braves pitching was unreal.


2018 when Anibal Sanchez was their #2 starter or 2019 when they were scrambling to assemble a bullpen midseason?

Both years they were bottom half of mlb by most team pitching metrics, as they were this past season too.
beyond heck, any guesses on the other 5 gm candidates  
CMicks3110 : 11/24/2020 6:38 am : link
alderson interviewed?
RE: beyond heck, any guesses on the other 5 gm candidates  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 7:29 am : link
In comment 15055438 CMicks3110 said:
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alderson interviewed?


Just guessing, no intel... Billy Owens, Chris Young (please not another Brodie-esque situation), Sawdaye
DMM  
Rory : 11/24/2020 9:24 am : link
What is the organizations fascination with John Ricco, seems they do alot to keep him within the organization.

Not that I'm against it, just interesting that no matter the regime change Ricco always seems to be kept on.
RE: DMM  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 9:26 am : link
In comment 15055522 Rory said:
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What is the organizations fascination with John Ricco, seems they do alot to keep him within the organization.

Not that I'm against it, just interesting that no matter the regime change Ricco always seems to be kept on.


He’s apparently strong in an administrative role. Beyond that.. not really sure.

Unrelated.. Morton to the Braves 1 for 15. Nice move. They have added 2 good/solid arms. Morton wasn’t as good in 2020 and Smyly was a career best so they have a big range of outcomes but they unquestionably are better today on paper then they were 2 weeks ago
...  
Italianju : 11/24/2020 9:40 am : link

Buster Olney
Braves have been aggressive so far, and the Mets will not be far behind, aiming at the best available players. A source says about the Mets targeting more more than one of the big four of the winter (Springer, Realmuto, Bauer, Lindor): "It's all true."
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DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 10:05 am : link
Correa reportedly being available hopefully lowers the price on Lindor. Notably potential @Mets GM Bobby Heck, drafted both Correa and Springer #Mets
Potentially  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 10:06 am : link
very good, we'll see

Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
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38m
Braves’ potential rotation:

Max Fried
Mike Soroka
Charlie Morton
Ian Anderson
Drew Smyly
need to get our GM  
Rory : 11/24/2020 10:23 am : link
in place ASAP.
Yea that’s a great signing by the braves  
bhill410 : 11/24/2020 10:24 am : link
Very unlike them to be aggressive in free agency especially in a year like this. Unfortunate for Mets because that lineup is stacked.
RE: Yea that’s a great signing by the braves  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 10:25 am : link
In comment 15055594 bhill410 said:
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Very unlike them to be aggressive in free agency especially in a year like this. Unfortunate for Mets because that lineup is stacked.


ZIPS projections for the Braves lineup are ridiculous lol
My mets pitching wish  
Rory : 11/24/2020 10:32 am : link
Degrom
Bauer
Stroman
Vasquez
Peterson

Thor in May - goes to 6 man to limit his innings and eventually replace Peterson
Matz moved to bp
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KDavies : 11/24/2020 10:45 am : link
In comment 15055568 DanMetroMan said:
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Correa reportedly being available hopefully lowers the price on Lindor. Notably potential @Mets GM Bobby Heck, drafted both Correa and Springer #Mets


I can't believe Correa just turned 26. Seems like he's been here forever. Guess that happens when you come up so young.

He's usually good for a DL stint or two during the season. Don't think that I would give up Gimenez for one year of him, but would Rosario.
RE: My mets pitching wish  
KDavies : 11/24/2020 10:47 am : link
In comment 15055601 Rory said:
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Degrom
Bauer
Stroman
Vasquez
Peterson

Thor in May - goes to 6 man to limit his innings and eventually replace Peterson
Matz moved to bp


Who is Vasquez?
the Braves have done the short term aggressive thing the last few yrs  
Eric on Li : 11/24/2020 11:09 am : link
and it has been pretty effective. Donaldson a couple years ago then last year I think they signed Will Smith pretty quickly. Then added Ozuna/Hamels.

They do well filling holes with veterans on shorter deals and they get veterans with high end upside if they work out.

Their homegrown pitching still leaves something to be desired but obviously Soroka getting injured is a big reason why now that Anderson looks like he has fully arrived.
BA Mets top 10  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 11:33 am : link
Alvarez
Mauricio
Gimenez (BA must be using their own standards, as Gimenez not only isn't a prospect, under the new rules he's not even a rookie in 2021)
Allan
PCA
Baty
Vientos
Ginn
Peterson
Wolf
RE: BA Mets top 10  
Eric on Li : 11/24/2020 11:37 am : link
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Alvarez
Mauricio
Gimenez (BA must be using their own standards, as Gimenez not only isn't a prospect, under the new rules he's not even a rookie in 2021)
Allan
PCA
Baty
Vientos
Ginn
Peterson
Wolf


Gin and PCA (and Peterson/Gimenez) make that look better than I expected.

Really hope we can extract 1 or 2 top 10 prospects from someone by helping them offload some salary (even if they are low level).

Also hope they don't trade more than 1 guy on that list if any.
RE: BA Mets top 10  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2020 11:39 am : link
In comment 15055713 DanMetroMan said:
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Alvarez
Mauricio
Gimenez (BA must be using their own standards, as Gimenez not only isn't a prospect, under the new rules he's not even a rookie in 2021)
Allan
PCA
Baty
Vientos
Ginn
Peterson
Wolf


Is Peterson a prospect elsewhere and is he rookie eligible?
Vientos  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2020 11:39 am : link
turns 21 this December.

Seems like he's been in the Mets system forever, but really hasn't.

But it seems like a big year for players like him and Szapucki.
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DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 11:43 am : link
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Alvarez
Mauricio
Gimenez (BA must be using their own standards, as Gimenez not only isn't a prospect, under the new rules he's not even a rookie in 2021)
Allan
PCA
Baty
Vientos
Ginn
Peterson
Wolf



Is Peterson a prospect elsewhere and is he rookie eligible?


Peterson is no longer a prospect and is not ROY eligible. 45 days on the active roster is the cutoff and Sept counts.
Kinda  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 11:48 am : link
lame to include players considered 2nd-year players on a prospect list. Not saying they don't belong on a list of young players the Mets have and should be happy to have but if you're not a rookie, then you aren't a prospect (at least in my book).
RE: Kinda  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2020 12:24 pm : link
In comment 15055744 DanMetroMan said:
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lame to include players considered 2nd-year players on a prospect list. Not saying they don't belong on a list of young players the Mets have and should be happy to have but if you're not a rookie, then you aren't a prospect (at least in my book).


Yeah, I agree. Also, just for my own opinion, 25 should be a cut off anyway for a prospect.

I mean, sure, Peterson is still developing and i hope he continues to, but he's already 25, having him on a top 10 prospect list is not a good thing IMO.

Gimenez is younger than Szapucki (and others), at just 22 years old for almost the entire 2021 season, but since he's lost his rookie eligibility I wouldn't include him either.
Toronto  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 1:09 pm : link
one of the teams in on Kim, interesting because they have a young star SS, to me that suggests they see him as a potential 3b and thus, the Mets hopefully are interested as well.
Giants  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 1:12 pm : link
in on Lester, I'm not interested in him for the Mets.
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DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 1:16 pm : link
@mlbtraderumors
ranks Kim the #7 available FA, and easily one of the youngest in this year's market. They project him to sign for 5 years 40 million (potentially a steal if he's as good as some believe)
Dan  
CMicks3110 : 11/24/2020 1:18 pm : link
You think it’s worth signing Kim?
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 1:27 pm : link
In comment 15055874 CMicks3110 said:
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You think it’s worth signing Kim?


I do. He's viewed as an MLB ready young talent (will be 25 this season) who would be a top 50-75 prospect if he played in the states. He has pop, is a plus athlete and is above average at SS (not GG caliber but "everyone" thinks he can stick. Jake Tillinghast who runs prospects worldwide




Doesn't hurt to have a Korean star in Flushing Queens either
And  
DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 1:29 pm : link
again, I have to note Toronto apparently is very interested in him and they have Bo Bichette at SS.
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DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 3:04 pm : link
Craig Mish
@CraigMish
The Toronto Blue Jays are one of the teams that will be vying for free agent All Star Catcher JT Realmuto this Winter. I would expect them to be involved throughout the process. Per sources.
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DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 5:18 pm : link
Nothing against Odorizzi, but quite an awful SP crop when the 2nd "most coveted" SP is a 31-year-old coming off a missed 2020 with 2 sub-4 FIP seasons since 2015
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DanMetroMan : 11/24/2020 5:55 pm : link
Toronto interested in Turner
RE: the Braves have done the short term aggressive thing the last few yrs  
Jay on the Island : 11/24/2020 8:13 pm : link
In comment 15055667 Eric on Li said:
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and it has been pretty effective. Donaldson a couple years ago then last year I think they signed Will Smith pretty quickly. Then added Ozuna/Hamels.

They do well filling holes with veterans on shorter deals and they get veterans with high end upside if they work out.

Their homegrown pitching still leaves something to be desired but obviously Soroka getting injured is a big reason why now that Anderson looks like he has fully arrived.

You forgot about Fried who has finally been healthy the past two years. He was a huge reason why Atlanta won the division and made it to game 7 of the NLCS.
RE: Potentially  
Jay on the Island : 11/24/2020 8:24 pm : link
In comment 15055570 DanMetroMan said:
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very good, we'll see

Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
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38m
Braves’ potential rotation:

Max Fried
Mike Soroka
Charlie Morton
Ian Anderson
Drew Smyly

I think that Kyle Wright will win the 5th spot and Smyly move to the pen in the long man role.
RE: RE: the Braves have done the short term aggressive thing the last few yrs  
Eric on Li : 11/24/2020 8:25 pm : link
In comment 15056224 Jay on the Island said:
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and it has been pretty effective. Donaldson a couple years ago then last year I think they signed Will Smith pretty quickly. Then added Ozuna/Hamels.

They do well filling holes with veterans on shorter deals and they get veterans with high end upside if they work out.

Their homegrown pitching still leaves something to be desired but obviously Soroka getting injured is a big reason why now that Anderson looks like he has fully arrived.


You forgot about Fried who has finally been healthy the past two years. He was a huge reason why Atlanta won the division and made it to game 7 of the NLCS.


If he and Anderson pitch the way they did last year and Soroka comes back healthy, that is a very good rotation. Still not in love with the BP though - what was the deal with Smith last year? Was it c19?
RE: RE: RE: the Braves have done the short term aggressive thing the last few yrs  
Jay on the Island : 11/24/2020 8:42 pm : link
In comment 15056232 Eric on Li said:
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If he and Anderson pitch the way they did last year and Soroka comes back healthy, that is a very good rotation. Still not in love with the BP though - what was the deal with Smith last year? Was it c19?

No idea but I hope that his struggles have to do with that. I liked the signing until I saw that it was for 3 years.

Their pen concerns me a bit with Melancon and Greene hitting free agency but I have a feeling that Smyly is destined for the pen. I am excited to see Minter this season. He was finally healthy last season and he was awesome. He is expected to be the new closer but obviously his health is the on concern.

Next up they have to re-sign Ozuna as long as the DH is staying in the NL. They can’t expect to get lucky with another 1 year deal on a hitter especially with the Mets likely to go wild in acquiring top talent like Springer, Lindor, etc.
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