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DanMetroMan : 11/23/2020 10:11 am
Sandy to update the media at 4:30 on the ongoing search for FO hires.
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Ozuna is going to be a weird one - I saw he just fired Boras  
Eric on Li : 11/24/2020 9:10 pm : link
which makes me think he just has unrealistic expectations of what's out there. Boras is a lot of things but incompetent isn't one of them.
RE: Ozuna is going to be a weird one - I saw he just fired Boras  
Shecky : 11/24/2020 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15056248 Eric on Li said:
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which makes me think he just has unrealistic expectations of what's out there. Boras is a lot of things but incompetent isn't one of them.


Lol, third agent in what a year?
Chris  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 9:08 am : link
Young has interviewed for the GM job. Pass. Has absolutely zero relevant experience (worked in the league office under Torre) don’t get too cutesy this time. Assistant Gm? Fine. Head honcho? No thank you
What would it take to get Snell?  
Everyone Relax : 11/25/2020 9:23 am : link
I see the Rays might be shopping him. Only 28 with 3 years $39m remaining on his contract. Not sure the Mets are looking to drain their farm system again, but would be a pretty amazing 1/2 with DeGrom.
Heck  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 9:40 am : link
Not a candidate
RE: Heck  
KevinBBWC : 11/25/2020 9:46 am : link
In comment 15056430 DanMetroMan said:
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Not a candidate


If he's not a candidate then I don't see why Young would have a shot either.

Guess they really want someone with a lot of experience.
RE: What would it take to get Snell?  
JB_in_DC : 11/25/2020 9:48 am : link
In comment 15056416 Everyone Relax said:
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I see the Rays might be shopping him. Only 28 with 3 years $39m remaining on his contract. Not sure the Mets are looking to drain their farm system again, but would be a pretty amazing 1/2 with DeGrom.


That contract is so reasonable I just can't see a scenario where the prospect cost would make him worth it for the Cohen-era Mets versus just paying Bauer.
JB  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 10:13 am : link
Completely agree with you there. Suggested it would cost Alvarez PLUS. Sounds about right.


Dodgers in on Hand
No thank you  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 10:21 am : link
Young reported directly to MLB’s chief baseball officer, Joe Torre, for the first two years he was in that position. Back in February, Torre moved into an advisory role, serving as a special assistant to commissioner Rob Manfred. Young, in turn, took on a greater role within the league’s hierarchy and was promoted to senior vice president of on-field operations, initiatives and strategy.

While Young would be an unorthodox hire, his candidacy isn’t a total shock, either. SNY’s Andy Martino noted more than a month ago that Young and Alderson maintain a strong relationship after getting to know one another during their time with the Padres’ organization, and Martino has since reported that the veteran pitcher and Princeton grad is a candidate for some type of role in the Mets’ new front office.

Hiring Young as the GM, however, would somewhat fly in the face of Cohen’s previous comments about his club’s search for a baseball ops executive. At his introductory press conference earlier this month, Cohen suggested he preferred an experienced candidate, telling reporters (link via Newsday’s Tim Healey): “I’m not crazy about people learning on my dime.” Young’s work in the league office gives him more relevant experience than most recently retired players, but he’d still be a rookie in a team’s baseball ops department. Even with guidance from an experienced vet like Alderson, he’d be “learning on Cohen’s dime,” though perhaps that’s more palatable for Cohen if Alderson heads up baseball ops himself for the early portion of an incoming GM’s tenure.
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DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 10:27 am : link
For those intrigued by the idea of Blake Snell, @RyanDivish is reporting sources tell him one of Julio Rodriguez, Jarred Kelenic or Kyle Lewis would have to be part of any deal. @Mets simply can't afford to give up that level of talent
This kind of stuff  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2020 10:32 am : link
some fans don't care about and to be honest if the team were perennial winners I'd look past it, but when the team was as toxic as it was under the Wilpons this stuff gets amplified, nice to see Cohen reverse this stuff and i look forward to more of it.

Bradford William Davis
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a subcontracted Citi Field employee told me Steve Cohen's promised relief assistance -- $500 a month until Opening Day -- for out of work Mets ballpark staff came through today. stadium workers were frustrated by the Wilpons' lack of support while they couldn't work their shifts.
anyone think it would have been a good idea to keep Brodie?  
CMicks3110 : 11/25/2020 10:42 am : link
honestly, does anyone really believe it was him, or Jeffy calling the shots?

He had an awful track record, but its probably because he indulged Jeff Wilpon rather than pushed back.


I'm also convinced he took the job becasue no one else would take the job because they all saw the writing on the wall--that Wilpon was going to sell, so why go to the Mets?
RE: What would it take to get Snell?  
Jay on the Island : 11/25/2020 10:45 am : link
In comment 15056416 Everyone Relax said:
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I see the Rays might be shopping him. Only 28 with 3 years $39m remaining on his contract. Not sure the Mets are looking to drain their farm system again, but would be a pretty amazing 1/2 with DeGrom.

The Rays reportedly want a package similar to the one they received for Archer which was Tyler Glasnow, Austin Meadows, and Shane Baz. That is pretty steep but that's what they should expect since Snell is signed for 3 more years at just $39 million.
No  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 10:47 am : link
1. I was told by a writer that spoke to a few teams that "none" of them would be interested in bringing Brodie on as part of their front office. None of the people he spoke to felt Brodie would ever be up for another GM job barring him taking a much smaller job and working his way up. They expect him to end up on the MLB Network

2. No. Because Sandy knows what he's looking for, and Brodie wasn't that. Sandy has very specific things he wants/needs in certain roles. This includes hitting coach (organizational philosophy) and his FO hires. Jeff was a moron but Brodie was not suited to be a major league GM.
Can't  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 10:47 am : link
believe how many Mets fans are losing their shit over the Mets not having a GM and/or making moves yet. There have been 2 moves so far!
PJ  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 10:53 am : link
the Wilpons reportedly gave the workers 189 total dollars for the season...
Bring Young into the front office mix for sure  
Metnut : 11/25/2020 11:05 am : link
seems like a bright guy with a future in front offices. Just don’t hire him as GM.
Dan-  
Everyone Relax : 11/25/2020 11:06 am : link
I tend to not read the dumpster that is the comment section on Twitter. Are Mets fans actually freaking out already? I can understand theirs some discomfort in not having a GM but I also fully trust that Sandy can successfully navigate this free agency in the interim.
ER  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 11:09 am : link
Yes. I'm not saying it's the majority but it's also more than just 1-2 loco people. Some alarmed by the way the GM search has gone but some are actively upset no trades/signings yet. It's so silly.
Crazy how some fans  
Everyone Relax : 11/25/2020 11:12 am : link
so quickly went from 10+ years of bottom feeding expectations in the FA market to now anxiously waiting to sign the top FAs. Uncle Steve has spoiled us already without having actually done anything
CY is a Rico clone to me  
Shecky : 11/25/2020 11:25 am : link
Please pass

You had to bring up the K word and rub more salt into that deep wound :(
has there been anything new on Owens?  
Eric on Li : 11/25/2020 1:13 pm : link
I'd imagine he was 1 of the 6.

I could see them hiring CY in some capacity but remember Cohen said he wasn't looking to pay for someone to get on the job training. I suspect whoever they name as GM will be experienced in player personnel.

Also re: Hill I read that Loria and Cohen are friends and that's how he got on the radar, so I suspect that was more of a courtesy interview. I believe that was rumored to be for the President of Ops position and not GM anyway, so not sure it matters either way.
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DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 1:22 pm : link
Robert Murray
@ByRobertMurray
Source: Rockies and Reds have a trade in place.
Guess  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 1:37 pm : link
Cross off Casali

The #Reds have traded Robert Stephenson and Jameson Hannah to the #Rockies in exchange for Jeff Hoffman and Case Williams. 1st reported by @JonHeyman
Nevermind  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 1:39 pm : link
The P Stephenson was traded not the C
Nevermind  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 1:41 pm : link
The P Stephenson was traded not the C
.  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 2:20 pm : link
JD Davis (becomes the Rockies 1b) for Jon Gray (2.5+ fWAR 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, lost 2020). Do it
I  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 2:34 pm : link
asked Paul Sporer, he thinks the Rockies pass


Daniel
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Paul, JD Davis to Colorado for Jon Gray. Davis becomes the Rockies 1b. Who says no?
Paul Sporer
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Probably the Rockies and honestly, rightfully so. Gray hasn't been a stud by any stretch, but they need to keep any developed pitching they can. Ryan McMahon SHOULD be able to replicate J.D. Davis or come damn close, but getting pitching has been this franchise's issue forever.
Indians  
DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 3:24 pm : link
Claim Humphreys
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DanMetroMan : 11/25/2020 4:54 pm : link
Hunter Renfroe career vs. LHP... .912 OPS, passable in the OF. Might be a solid/cheap addition to a very LH OF situation for the Mets
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2020 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15056832 DanMetroMan said:
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Hunter Renfroe career vs. LHP... .912 OPS, passable in the OF. Might be a solid/cheap addition to a very LH OF situation for the Mets


and he's a sneaky good wide receiver.
love these  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2020 7:41 pm : link
from Cohen. Love every one of them. Look at the comment about the black jerseys. holy shit, imagine that? an owner talking to the players, caring about the fans, having a long-term vision, willing to take risks, wanting to make the team a destination (read that as "a winner"

Metsmerized
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"I think we have holes to fill and I can't say for certain that we can fill those holes."

"Being all-in means that if you lose, then you're out...We want to fill our needs in a way that makes sense and doesn't hamstring us for the next five years."

Metsmerized
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"Once I got back into it, I wasn't going to lose this," Cohen said about the process of buying the Mets over the last year.

Metsmerized
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In SNY's preview of what's to come, Steve Cohen says, "You want there to be multiple reasons they come [to NY}, not just the check."

Metsmerized
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"We're talking to everybody," Cohen said when asked if the expectation is that they will land a top free agent.


Metsmerized
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"Old-Timers day is a no-brainer. Fan Fest and Fan Appreciation Day, that makes sense."


Metsmerized
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"I'm a little surprised that we haven't been able to find people for the front office. I thought it would be a lot easier than it has been," Steve Cohen said.

"We haven't been getting a lot of permission."


Metsmerized
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"I want to talk to the players about it first," Cohen said about the possibility of bringing back the black jerseys.

Metsmerized
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"Playing it safe is no fun, it's actually boring," Cohen said. "Being afraid of change is not a recipe for being as great as you can be."

"I've always been a risk-taker...All these decisions are about making intelligent risks."

more...  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2020 7:53 pm : link
Metsmerized
@Metsmerized
Steve Cohen's favorite piece of Mets' memorabilia is the Bill Buckner ball, which he proceeded to run over to the corner of his room to grab.

Metsmerized
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Cohen paid $410,000 for the Bill Buckner ball when told it would cost $100,000-$150,000.

He also said the ball will be going in the Mets Museum.
RE: more...  
SJGiant : 11/25/2020 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15056912 pjcas18 said:
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Metsmerized
@Metsmerized
Steve Cohen's favorite piece of Mets' memorabilia is the Bill Buckner ball, which he proceeded to run over to the corner of his room to grab.

Metsmerized
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Cohen paid $410,000 for the Bill Buckner ball when told it would cost $100,000-$150,000.

He also said the ball will be going in the Mets Museum.


A little over-payment for that Buckner ball??

NAAAAHHHHHHH
RE: more...  
JayBinQueens : 11/25/2020 8:36 pm : link
In comment 15056912 pjcas18 said:
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Metsmerized
@Metsmerized
Steve Cohen's favorite piece of Mets' memorabilia is the Bill Buckner ball, which he proceeded to run over to the corner of his room to grab.

Metsmerized
@Metsmerized
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5m
Cohen paid $410,000 for the Bill Buckner ball when told it would cost $100,000-$150,000.

He also said the ball will be going in the Mets Museum.

Thanks Pj. Love the last one. Sounds like he'll make Citi the extension of his own man cave lol
it's just so awesome  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2020 8:50 pm : link
to have a fan as an owner. a billionaire fan sure, but a fan.

I mean, none of us knows how this will turn out, but it's like a dark cloud has been lifted and even if the Mets don't win, you get the feeling it won't be because they weren't given every opportunity to win.

as a fan, I'm not sure what else you can ask for from an owner.
Meh. The black jerseys sucked.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/25/2020 10:22 pm : link
Mets uniforms are in a great place right now.
I don't care about the uniforms that really wasn't the point  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2020 10:37 pm : link
for me, I love that he's going to ask the players.

and I'm going to guess the players will love that too.
I actually kinda liked the black jerseys  
PhiPsi125 : 11/25/2020 10:48 pm : link
Not as much as the classic ones but i dug them.
Toronto  
DanMetroMan : 11/29/2020 12:43 pm : link
in talks with Springer

-Sandy acknowledges the farm isn't in great shape so FA will be the main avenue they try to improve the team. Said they don't really have the ability to trade off prospects but they do have money. Quite the change from the Wilpons. Might signal sitting out Lindor/Arenado etc

- Nats in talks with the Cubs regarding Bryant
RE: anyone think it would have been a good idea to keep Brodie?  
Section331 : 11/29/2020 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15056485 CMicks3110 said:
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honestly, does anyone really believe it was him, or Jeffy calling the shots?

He had an awful track record, but its probably because he indulged Jeff Wilpon rather than pushed back.


I'm also convinced he took the job becasue no one else would take the job because they all saw the writing on the wall--that Wilpon was going to sell, so why go to the Mets?


Brodie didn’t take the job because he thought the Wilkins would sell, he took the job because he was a golfing buddy of Jeffy’s. Good riddance. Do you think any other team would give him a job at any level? No, and neither should the Mets.
I'd imagine part of Sandy's statement is for leverage in trades  
Eric on Li : 11/29/2020 4:38 pm : link
but I absolutely agree with him that it makes no sense to give up multiple top 5-10 prospects when you can just sign JTR or Springer or Bauer or Hand. Or some combo of the 4.
Minor  
DanMetroMan : 11/29/2020 11:45 pm : link
2 year deal
To start for KC
Blue  
DanMetroMan : 11/30/2020 8:37 am : link
Jays in talks with Wong, and expected to be aggressive on LeMahieu. Biggio would move to the OF. That could be a fun team.

Lance Lynn one potential trade target apparently has a very high price. Some potential packages from their beat guy (Jamey Newberg) sound higher than I can imagine the Mets going on a rental.
Dan  
CMicks3110 : 11/30/2020 9:15 am : link
How soon would you guess until the Mets strike, sounds like their anxious to get someone soon. And if they get someone soon, who do you think it is?
Dan  
CMicks3110 : 11/30/2020 9:16 am : link
How soon would you guess until the Mets strike, sounds like their anxious to get someone soon. And if they get someone soon, who do you think it is?
RE: Dan  
DanMetroMan : 11/30/2020 10:08 am : link
In comment 15060898 CMicks3110 said:
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How soon would you guess until the Mets strike, sounds like their anxious to get someone soon. And if they get someone soon, who do you think it is?


I don't anticipate anything of note until 12/7 (when the Winter Meetings begin). That obviously can change if there is suddenly a major rush of teams picking up the 2nd and 3rd tier of SP (Smyly and Minor would been in tier 3 for me)
RE: Minor  
Eric on Li : 11/30/2020 10:12 am : link
In comment 15060699 DanMetroMan said:
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2 year deal
To start for KC


Whether he's a starter over the full 2 years or a reliever obviously remains to be seen - and that flexibility is likely the reason he got 2 years - as this Royals beat reporter speculates.

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Why a two-year deal?
Plenty of reasons.

For one, it’s unlikely the Royals were the only suitor for an experienced pitcher whose last serious injury was left labrum surgery in 2016. Offering two years might have given the Royals an advantage.

There’s also Minor’s relief experience. Say his velocity dips and he’s no longer primed for a starter’s role. The Royals know he can pitch in the bullpen because they saw it up close for 77 2/3 innings in 2017, when he posted a 2.55 ERA.

Not to mention, the Royals have a pipeline of starting pitching prospects. Singer, Bubic, Lynch, Hernandez and Kowar are five. Asa Lacy is another. Jonathan Bowlan, Jon Heasley, Zach Haake, Alec Marsh and Angel Zerpa are five more. The list goes on.

If their progressions continue, Minor could move seamlessly to the bullpen and lead the back-end staff, especially if an experienced reliever, such as Greg Holland, is not back there.

Royals agree to terms with Mike Minor: Answering 5 questions about the move - ( New Window )
I  
DanMetroMan : 11/30/2020 10:20 am : link
had a strong feeling Minor was getting undervalued by some on here. The SP market is really, really thin. Some teams likely looked past his decline in velocity (uptick later in the season) and focused on his FB RPM. There will be bargains, but the SP market appears to be more robust than everyone signing on the cheap. Smyly got more than people expected (as much as twice as much), Morton got 15, we'll see on minor but he surely got more than the 1 for 6 type of deals people were throwing around.
Francisco  
DanMetroMan : 11/30/2020 10:26 am : link
Mejia piece on MLBTR names the Mets as a potential suitor, but it's a long list of potential suitors and not an actual rumor just the writers idea. I don't see it. Very poor fielder and completely lost 2020. I still like Narvaez if he's non-tendered or Milwaukee deals him.
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