Mejia piece on MLBTR names the Mets as a potential suitor, but it's a long list of potential suitors and not an actual rumor just the writers idea. I don't see it. Very poor fielder and completely lost 2020. I still like Narvaez if he's non-tendered or Milwaukee deals him.
I'm fine with adding him to the system and letting him compete with some defensive first catcher to be Realmuto's backup but he can't be in consideration to be our opening day starter. He's just a lotto ticket at this point, not an MLB starter.
Mejia piece on MLBTR names the Mets as a potential suitor, but it's a long list of potential suitors and not an actual rumor just the writers idea. I don't see it. Very poor fielder and completely lost 2020. I still like Narvaez if he's non-tendered or Milwaukee deals him.
I'm fine with adding him to the system and letting him compete with some defensive first catcher to be Realmuto's backup but he can't be in consideration to be our opening day starter. He's just a lotto ticket at this point, not an MLB starter.
Nido is already on the roster and a high end defender. I wouldn't chase Mejia.
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Veteran reliever Jacob Barnes, who was eligible for salary arbitration, signs a one-year, $750,000 contract with $100,000 in incentives with the #Mets. He was claimed by the Mets on waivers in October. The deadline is 8 p.m. Wednesday for teams to tender contracts to players.
-Heyman reports the Mets are interested in McCann. I'm fine with him but buyer beware.
had a strong feeling Minor was getting undervalued by some on here. The SP market is really, really thin. Some teams likely looked past his decline in velocity (uptick later in the season) and focused on his FB RPM. There will be bargains, but the SP market appears to be more robust than everyone signing on the cheap. Smyly got more than people expected (as much as twice as much), Morton got 15, we'll see on minor but he surely got more than the 1 for 6 type of deals people were throwing around.
The money will be whatever it is but I agree with the Royals beat thinking he the 2nd year was largely because of his previous viability in the pen. I'm curious to see how that deal gets structured as I'd imagine there are partial guarantees and incentives depending on usage.
The velo drop (and his general performance) was concerning as a starter so hopefully they lost out because they are just aiming higher. Hand would qualify as that and the money may end up similar.
Minor was probably more of a Wilpon-era Vargas type value signing. "Last year Mike was an all star so we think he can be a huge boost to our rotation!"
Lynn is very good but if Jamey Newberg is anywhere near accurate on potential packages, he's far too rich for my blood. He makes most sense to a team not looking to spend with a good minor league system.
Wouldn't have a problem with either/both being non-tendered but it bears repeating... if tendered contracts the contracts would only be 1/6th guaranteed before opening day. Not a large sum.
Per @enosarris piece regarding "fantasy" Blake Snell packages, he notes that Simeon Woods Richardson (traded in the Stroman deal) "“that guy is a dude,” and the pitcher looks like he could put together above-average command with four above-average pitches." Thanks, Brodie #Mets
Per @enosarris piece regarding "fantasy" Blake Snell packages, he notes that Simeon Woods Richardson (traded in the Stroman deal) "“that guy is a dude,” and the pitcher looks like he could put together above-average command with four above-average pitches." Thanks, Brodie #Mets
I'm almost equally bummed about losing SWR as Kelenic. The Stroman trade was unfathomably stupid yet gets about 1% the outrage of the Cano/Diaz trade.
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Contracts awarded through arbitration can’t include incentives, so the #Mets agreed to terms with Barnes before the tender deadline.
Seems like they’ll give Barnes, who is out of options, a chance to compete for a spot in spring training.
RE: I'd imagine part of Sandy's statement is for leverage in trades
but I absolutely agree with him that it makes no sense to give up multiple top 5-10 prospects when you can just sign JTR or Springer or Bauer or Hand. Or some combo of the 4.
Keep in mind, giving up a pick, hurts the future farm.
Best case scenario is trading for an overpaid player that can be had for lesser prospects
Speaking of trading for an overpaid player. Mentioned last week that heard conflicting on cano $$. Still a horrendous trade, on so many levels. But Canos money wound up being the only good part to com for it between Covid and now peds.
interested in Mejia but Fascinating how much both McCann and Narvaez improved upon their framing #'s. Makes you wonder what a high-end C instructor can do for @mets in terms of targeting "lesser" framers who have room for improvement
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Contracts awarded through arbitration can’t include incentives, so the #Mets agreed to terms with Barnes before the tender deadline.
Seems like they’ll give Barnes, who is out of options, a chance to compete for a spot in spring training.
12 k/9 and 2 bb/9 last year (albeit in just 18 innings). Maybe something year.
Young, MLB’s senior VP of on field operations, withdrew because of family considerations. He lives in Dallas and has children ages 8, 10 and 12 and felt this was not the right time to uproot despite being intrigued by the position with the Mets.
I wonder if they let him withdraw knowing he didn't make final cut?
not that it's that big of a deal either way optically. No shame in a guy not getting what would be a first time role.
I don't necessarily want to say that's a bullet dodged but I definitely preferred to not hire another person with limited player personnel experience to be GM.
RE: I wonder if they let him withdraw knowing he didn't make final cut?
not that it's that big of a deal either way optically. No shame in a guy not getting what would be a first time role.
I don't necessarily want to say that's a bullet dodged but I definitely preferred to not hire another person with limited player personnel experience to be GM.
Martino is confirming that Young was reluctant to even discuss the job because of his reservations regarding moving.
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Talk among some potential Mets candidates Cohen's comment about title in 3-5 years was scary. NYY/LAD/TB, seen as 3 top orgs, have combined for 1 in past decade. Maybe Cohen doesn't want people to would shy away from this, so whatever. But in the industry, it was eye-raising.
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Actually expecting a good baseball team being eye-raising to the Ivy MBA GM crop is illuminating but not surprising. Harder to be Brian Cashman than David Stearns.
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That is a good point. As is often the case with these things, Steve Cohen's actual comments were not as aggressive as some in the industry later perceived them to be.
that hesitates to take a job because the owner of the franchise casually mentioned hoping to win a World Series in 3 - 5 years, is not a GM I'd want.
And I seriously doubt it is why people are not interested in the job.
Cohen mentioned in the SNY interview he's been getting a lot of rejections on requests to interview people under contract. That does and doesn't surprise me.
that hesitates to take a job because the owner of the franchise casually mentioned hoping to win a World Series in 3 - 5 years, is not a GM I'd want.
And I seriously doubt it is why people are not interested in the job.
Cohen mentioned in the SNY interview he's been getting a lot of rejections on requests to interview people under contract. That does and doesn't surprise me.
Completely agree. In fact, I'd speculate that the rejections have more to do with that comment (and other owners fearing Cohen's $ more generally) than the individual candidates for jobs here being "afraid" of expectations.
late in the process to expect a Cardinals or Twins (2 teams with Gm's I'd love) to let their guys interview "because it's the right thing to do". So you have to target non-GM's and unemployed GM's.
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@Daniel W. Joel Sherman of the Post reported this morning that Young pulled out of the running. I'm not sure if this is news, but I've also heard that Bobby Heck, whom many have mentioned on Twitter, is not a serious candidate right now. I haven't heard anything in detail about anyone else at the moment, though I think it's safe to consider other execs with ties to Alderson -- like Billy Owens or J.P. Ricciardi -- potential candidates if they aren't already.
Todd Hundley played 9 seasons in NY, was a home-grown 2-time all-star, hit 41 homers as a catcher in 1996, 9.1 fWAR 1996-1997 and yet the organization forgets his existence. Maybe he doesn't want to return but pretty strange
Todd Hundley played 9 seasons in NY, was a home-grown 2-time all-star, hit 41 homers as a catcher in 1996, 9.1 fWAR 1996-1997 and yet the organization forgets his existence. Maybe he doesn't want to return but pretty strange
Doesn't he have some personal issues? Or didn't he? Could be a reason why he wants to stay away from baseball, assuming it's on him.
Also, isn't he one of the few meaningful Mets named by Radomski? Might be a reason the Mets are distancing themselves. Though maybe Cohen can cleanse all things Wilpon and extend an olive branch and allow the younger Mets fans to appreciate the past.
Todd Hundley played 9 seasons in NY, was a home-grown 2-time all-star, hit 41 homers as a catcher in 1996, 9.1 fWAR 1996-1997 and yet the organization forgets his existence. Maybe he doesn't want to return but pretty strange
Doesn't he have some personal issues? Or didn't he? Could be a reason why he wants to stay away from baseball, assuming it's on him.
Also, isn't he one of the few meaningful Mets named by Radomski? Might be a reason the Mets are distancing themselves. Though maybe Cohen can cleanse all things Wilpon and extend an olive branch and allow the younger Mets fans to appreciate the past.
Hundley reported had a drinking/vicodin issue at one point... 15 years ago. But he was interviewed on SNY when Alonso beat his record. My bigger point is they completely ignore any non-86 or 69 players.
hopefully with Cohen as a lifelong Mets fan now owning the team he can right past wrongs.
He's already talking that way with things like an old timer's game, fan fest, etc. things most (or many) teams already do, but apparently the Mets do not.
it would have been nice to have a statue for Seaver before he died.
Maybe they won't miss out on honoring Wright the proper way.
unlikely they sign Hand. He's looking to close, they could make him the closer but I don't see it.
If he gets a 1 year deal that makes sense re-entering the market next offseason. He'd do so a year older than Will Smith was last year but I suppose that's a somewhat realistic best case scenario.
He may only want a 1 year deal so the timing of the ownership transition may have cost us there. If so it sucks because he's a really good fit here.
(who is usually pretty tied in) didn't have any names to offer in regard to potential GM's. Mentioned Billy Owens and Ricciardi (horrendous outcome if 61 year old Ricciardi is where this ends with all of the young up and coming GM) stuff... he's absolutely despised for the job he did in Toronto. That being said, Britton only mentioned them as making sense due to Sandy ties.
- Doesn't believe they have made any additional hires behind the scenes
-Gives better than 50/50 they sign Conforto before the season begins
Uh? Huh? They claimed they were looking for a young guy who could lead the team into the future and grow into a bigger role. WHat an absurd comment by you.
But nope, it's ageist to suggest a 61 year old who 1. Wasn't successful as a GM 2. Hasn't been a GM in the bigs since 2009 would be completely against their stated goals. Got it.
I think it is a bullshit comment. No offense, I support your fandom. But you shouldn’t judge someone’s leadership or baseball acumen or endurance on age. Just disappointed in you.
I think it is a bullshit comment. No offense, I support your fandom. But you shouldn’t judge someone’s leadership or baseball acumen or endurance on age. Just disappointed in you.
Ridiculous comment. THE METS openly are looking for a young candidate and talked up the new thinking and analytic thinking. HEre is Sandy Alderson
"“I hope that we are able to hire someone who will be able to handle most of the traditional general manager role,” Alderson said. “I would expect that I will be a little more involved in decision-making and mentoring. But I don’t expect to get down in the weeds, either.”
Yeah, I'm sure he meant mentoring a 61-year-old man who was GM of a team for 8 seasons. The hire would be extremely disappointing on every level. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a homer, plain and simple.
I'm fine with adding him to the system and letting him compete with some defensive first catcher to be Realmuto's backup but he can't be in consideration to be our opening day starter. He's just a lotto ticket at this point, not an MLB starter.
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Mejia piece on MLBTR names the Mets as a potential suitor, but it's a long list of potential suitors and not an actual rumor just the writers idea. I don't see it. Very poor fielder and completely lost 2020. I still like Narvaez if he's non-tendered or Milwaukee deals him.
I'm fine with adding him to the system and letting him compete with some defensive first catcher to be Realmuto's backup but he can't be in consideration to be our opening day starter. He's just a lotto ticket at this point, not an MLB starter.
Nido is already on the roster and a high end defender. I wouldn't chase Mejia.
@BNightengale
Veteran reliever Jacob Barnes, who was eligible for salary arbitration, signs a one-year, $750,000 contract with $100,000 in incentives with the #Mets. He was claimed by the Mets on waivers in October. The deadline is 8 p.m. Wednesday for teams to tender contracts to players.
-Heyman reports the Mets are interested in McCann. I'm fine with him but buyer beware.
The money will be whatever it is but I agree with the Royals beat thinking he the 2nd year was largely because of his previous viability in the pen. I'm curious to see how that deal gets structured as I'd imagine there are partial guarantees and incentives depending on usage.
The velo drop (and his general performance) was concerning as a starter so hopefully they lost out because they are just aiming higher. Hand would qualify as that and the money may end up similar.
Minor was probably more of a Wilpon-era Vargas type value signing. "Last year Mike was an all star so we think he can be a huge boost to our rotation!"
he's another candidate for the old mets type of signing.
"we had a very high grade on him as a prospect and just think he needs a fresh start!"
That said Mejia will probably go to Tampa and turn into a super star.
I'm almost equally bummed about losing SWR as Kelenic. The Stroman trade was unfathomably stupid yet gets about 1% the outrage of the Cano/Diaz trade.
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Contracts awarded through arbitration can’t include incentives, so the #Mets agreed to terms with Barnes before the tender deadline.
Seems like they’ll give Barnes, who is out of options, a chance to compete for a spot in spring training.
Keep in mind, giving up a pick, hurts the future farm.
Best case scenario is trading for an overpaid player that can be had for lesser prospects
Speaking of trading for an overpaid player. Mentioned last week that heard conflicting on cano $$. Still a horrendous trade, on so many levels. But Canos money wound up being the only good part to com for it between Covid and now peds.
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Contracts awarded through arbitration can’t include incentives, so the #Mets agreed to terms with Barnes before the tender deadline.
Seems like they’ll give Barnes, who is out of options, a chance to compete for a spot in spring training.
12 k/9 and 2 bb/9 last year (albeit in just 18 innings). Maybe something year.
I don't necessarily want to say that's a bullet dodged but I definitely preferred to not hire another person with limited player personnel experience to be GM.
I don't necessarily want to say that's a bullet dodged but I definitely preferred to not hire another person with limited player personnel experience to be GM.
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Talk among some potential Mets candidates Cohen's comment about title in 3-5 years was scary. NYY/LAD/TB, seen as 3 top orgs, have combined for 1 in past decade. Maybe Cohen doesn't want people to would shy away from this, so whatever. But in the industry, it was eye-raising.
Maybe in the context of MLB, it's not common to work for an owner who has public expectations but that comment seemed pretty harmless to me.
Also, the Mets aren't starting from bare bones. I don't believe a 3-5 year window is crazy.
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Actually expecting a good baseball team being eye-raising to the Ivy MBA GM crop is illuminating but not surprising. Harder to be Brian Cashman than David Stearns.
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That is a good point. As is often the case with these things, Steve Cohen's actual comments were not as aggressive as some in the industry later perceived them to be.
And I seriously doubt it is why people are not interested in the job.
Cohen mentioned in the SNY interview he's been getting a lot of rejections on requests to interview people under contract. That does and doesn't surprise me.
And I seriously doubt it is why people are not interested in the job.
Cohen mentioned in the SNY interview he's been getting a lot of rejections on requests to interview people under contract. That does and doesn't surprise me.
Completely agree. In fact, I'd speculate that the rejections have more to do with that comment (and other owners fearing Cohen's $ more generally) than the individual candidates for jobs here being "afraid" of expectations.
Is it correct that for a promotion MLB teams can interview anyone under contract with another team?
Tim Britton
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@Daniel W. Joel Sherman of the Post reported this morning that Young pulled out of the running. I'm not sure if this is news, but I've also heard that Bobby Heck, whom many have mentioned on Twitter, is not a serious candidate right now. I haven't heard anything in detail about anyone else at the moment, though I think it's safe to consider other execs with ties to Alderson -- like Billy Owens or J.P. Ricciardi -- potential candidates if they aren't already.
Is it correct that for a promotion MLB teams can interview anyone under contract with another team?
Teams are "legally" allowed to block any employee however there is a gentleman's agreement of sorts that you let execs interview for promotions.
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Who wants them if we aren’t setting high goals
Doesn't he have some personal issues? Or didn't he? Could be a reason why he wants to stay away from baseball, assuming it's on him.
Also, isn't he one of the few meaningful Mets named by Radomski? Might be a reason the Mets are distancing themselves. Though maybe Cohen can cleanse all things Wilpon and extend an olive branch and allow the younger Mets fans to appreciate the past.
At the moment a clear caveat but interesting to see @martinonyc reporting "At the moment, the Mets are after McCann more than J.T. Realmuto."#Mets
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Todd Hundley played 9 seasons in NY, was a home-grown 2-time all-star, hit 41 homers as a catcher in 1996, 9.1 fWAR 1996-1997 and yet the organization forgets his existence. Maybe he doesn't want to return but pretty strange
Doesn't he have some personal issues? Or didn't he? Could be a reason why he wants to stay away from baseball, assuming it's on him.
Also, isn't he one of the few meaningful Mets named by Radomski? Might be a reason the Mets are distancing themselves. Though maybe Cohen can cleanse all things Wilpon and extend an olive branch and allow the younger Mets fans to appreciate the past.
Hundley reported had a drinking/vicodin issue at one point... 15 years ago. But he was interviewed on SNY when Alonso beat his record. My bigger point is they completely ignore any non-86 or 69 players.
He's already talking that way with things like an old timer's game, fan fest, etc. things most (or many) teams already do, but apparently the Mets do not.
it would have been nice to have a statue for Seaver before he died.
Maybe they won't miss out on honoring Wright the proper way.
If he gets a 1 year deal that makes sense re-entering the market next offseason. He'd do so a year older than Will Smith was last year but I suppose that's a somewhat realistic best case scenario.
He may only want a 1 year deal so the timing of the ownership transition may have cost us there. If so it sucks because he's a really good fit here.
seems a little high but perhaps that includes some non-guaranteed incentive $?
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no word on Minor's deal, not sure how accurate he is but Rob Bradford of WEEI claims a source told him 2 years 16-18 (8-9 per)
seems a little high but perhaps that includes some non-guaranteed incentive $?
Not really sure why it's a state secret and the way he "reported it" was sort of off the cuff so that's all we "know" for now.
- Doesn't believe they have made any additional hires behind the scenes
-Gives better than 50/50 they sign Conforto before the season begins
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Uh? Huh? They claimed they were looking for a young guy who could lead the team into the future and grow into a bigger role. WHat an absurd comment by you.
Neander 37
Chernoff 39
Chris Young 41
David Forst 44
Is this a joke? The Mets were the ones on record looking for a young guy who would eventually be "the man".
But nope, it's ageist to suggest a 61 year old who 1. Wasn't successful as a GM 2. Hasn't been a GM in the bigs since 2009 would be completely against their stated goals. Got it.
Ridiculous comment. THE METS openly are looking for a young candidate and talked up the new thinking and analytic thinking. HEre is Sandy Alderson
"“I hope that we are able to hire someone who will be able to handle most of the traditional general manager role,” Alderson said. “I would expect that I will be a little more involved in decision-making and mentoring. But I don’t expect to get down in the weeds, either.”
Yeah, I'm sure he meant mentoring a 61-year-old man who was GM of a team for 8 seasons. The hire would be extremely disappointing on every level. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a homer, plain and simple.