wouldn't help the 2021 Mets (most likely) but he'd be like adding an additional first-round pick to the system
Is everyone bound in the bidding to stay within the IFA budgets or is this one of those situations where it's a open auction?
They are bound by the IFA budgets which SHOULD help the Mets because at least in terms of what BA was hearing.. the Mets had not even dabbled on the higher end names of the IFA market (no this wasn't a Cohen thing, these agreements are generally in place up to 24 months in advance) but this COULD work in our favor. It's also possible he finds a team that "promises" him either an MLB roster spot (unlikely) or a quicker path to the bigs (very possible) but all-in on Colas if possible and when Kim is posted I like him as well.
That's encouraging - these seem like the types of moves Sandy would be very eager to use Cohen's financial muscle for. Hope it happens - would be great to buy some top prospects this offseason.
interested as a 4th OF, and his cousin manages the team..
“Here’s a guy who’s figured some things out in the KBO,” said a scout about Rojas, Jr. “He showed some flashes of his tools in the minors, but he was not able to get all of them together to the major-league level. In Korea, he went from a decent doubles guy to a home run slugger (the exit-velo data year-to-year supports that) due to him adding strength. He also sacrificed some speed for that.”
Rojas looks like a slightly better option in most regards than fellow posted KBO outfielder Na. He struck out a fair amount, but less than Na. He hits the ball hard, and according to 2020 exit velocity, harder than Na, with a 114 mph exit velo and an average around 93 mph. He’s a little more pull-happy, especially from the right side, but as a former center fielder without the injury history, he’s likely to be more of a defensive asset, even if he’s no longer a center fielder. And he’s a switch hitter instead of a lefty-only guy.
Matt Eddy on @BaseballAmerica's Mets top 10 podcast that there was a "near consensus" among other organizations that Alvarez was the #1 prospect in the system with all-star, middle of the order upside. "Big power"
I've never liked Baty and he's the guy I'd have no issue trading. Just seems pretty meh and lacking a real carrying tool. Vientos is a month younger and a lot more projectable with his exit velocities and low-ish K profile for a power hitter. Baty + JDD or Rosario is the offer I'd try to leverage for Arenado.
Ginn who knows but if he can remain a solid SP prospect when he comes back from rehab great. Back end Peterson types have their value.
The drop-off after 6 is “large” (this includes Gimenez who he acknowledges is technically not a prospect but BA will consider him one) and again a huge drop after 11 (has Greene at 11, so he has the Mets with a clear #1 prospect, pretty clear 2 and 3 with Allan and Mauricio in some order) and 9 “legit” prospected (Top 10 minus Peterson and Gimenez who he admits are iffy inclusions) plus Greene.
-laughed at the state of the Mets upper minors. Called it “empty” “nothing there” and said they have some prospects with big upside, no help on the way in 2021 and maybe not even 2022 (was less definitive there)
Players like him probably got hurt the most by the pandemic.
he's at the age where he need to "shit or get off the pot" due to injuries or whatever else.
Basically losing the season hurts double since he's aging out of prospect status.
Presumably so. Wasn’t mentioned once, “big” drop after 11 and “nothing” in the upper minors. Szapucki pretty clearly didn’t garner any buzz at the alternate site either. Not saying it’s the end all be all but I’ve also heard they may see him as a reliever so I’m not sure even the Mets are overly high on him anymore. Guess we will see.
Sounds worth exploring but as a second SP added. Limited upside and high risk given never facing MLB P. With Bauer? Yes please. With Tanaka or Odorizzi, still not bad. If he’s the big add? Not good.
Everything has gone quiet on the GM front. Do they even need to fill that position?
Sandy implied they intended to hire one even just to alleviate his workload. It’s been silent but the expectation is someone will be brought in soonish.
things tend to get quiet at a final negotiation stage
interviews are over so nothing is happening because they can't let people who didn't get it know they didn't get it in case they can't agree to a deal with whoever their first choice is.
Once that deal is agreed to and people start getting notified they didn't get it, word will inevitably break pretty soon after that.
I have 0 inside information except the ability to look at a calendar, so I'd imagine they want to have the GM in place at least a few days prior to the WM even if they are virtual.
@keithlaw
ranks potential @Mets
FA target as his #1 FA. He calls Springer's defense in CF "above average" (for those worried about a move to the corner) and believes he will stay in CF for "several" more years #Mets
@keithlaw
ranks potential @Mets
FA target as his #1 FA. He calls Springer's defense in CF "above average" (for those worried about a move to the corner) and believes he will stay in CF for "several" more years #Mets
imagine they just say F it and sign both him and JTR?
Nimmo
Springer
McNeil
Alonso
Smith
JTR
Conforto
Rosario
Gimenez
Yeesh. Still need SP but that's practically an ASG lineup and the defense is far improved. You could probably get by with the BP as is.
@keithlaw
ranks potential @Mets
FA target as his #1 FA. He calls Springer's defense in CF "above average" (for those worried about a move to the corner) and believes he will stay in CF for "several" more years #Mets
imagine they just say F it and sign both him and JTR?
Nimmo
Springer
McNeil
Alonso
Smith
JTR
Conforto
Rosario
Gimenez
Yeesh. Still need SP but that's practically an ASG lineup and the defense is far improved. You could probably get by with the BP as is.
I have to say, Springer is still my #1 target because I think there are other decent C's out there (NOTHING near Realmuto) but moving Nimmo and Dom and hopefully Alonso improves 3 defensive positions
I have to say, Springer is still my #1 target because I think there are other decent C's out there (NOTHING near Realmuto) but moving Nimmo and Dom and hopefully Alonso improves 3 defensive positions
Also gets Gimenez in there every day (likely at 2b but maybe SS or 3B depending on McNeil and Rosario).
If that were the group I wouldn't mind trying Rosario at 3B so Gimenez and McNeil can play their natural positions.
disagreement here. I don't want to see Davis at 3b ever again (maybe that's extreme) but it doesn't work. I know a lot of you guys like him but I'd be shopping him hard.
disagreement here. I don't want to see Davis at 3b ever again (maybe that's extreme) but it doesn't work. I know a lot of you guys like him but I'd be shopping him hard.
I love the bat but he has no position. I think he can playable in LF and obviously play some at DH. He's a luxury off the bench but in the above scenario you probably try to trade him for a SP with similar years of control.
suggested Davis for Gray but Paul Sporer from fangraphs was pretty adamant the Rockies would pass. He too viewed Davis as a DH/1b and the bat not so outstanding that he'd be worth a potential bounceback of Gray.
suggested Davis for Gray but Paul Sporer from fangraphs was pretty adamant the Rockies would pass. He too viewed Davis as a DH/1b and the bat not so outstanding that he'd be worth a potential bounceback of Gray.
He would rake in CO. I think he's a good piece for an Arenado trade. He could fill a lot of that production offensively at 10% of the cost.
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Sources: #SFGiants have interest in free agent Marcell Ozuna, but their comfort level on valuation and term is somewhat contingent on whether NL has the DH in 2021. Ozuna, 30, was the #Braves DH in a majority of games this year. @MLBNetwork
it also just occurs to me if they keep the DH in the NL the market
for players like JDD and DH's in general is going to change. With twice as many openings the market won't be so saturated with options and that might give the players who can really hit more value.
Not the sexiest of names but if Brian Goodwin is non-tendered I'd be interested. 109 wRC+ in 2019, 115 in 2020 before being traded. 5 OAA in 2019. Minor league deal. Do it up
Jon Morosi
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Sources: #SFGiants have interest in free agent Marcell Ozuna, but their comfort level on valuation and term is somewhat contingent on whether NL has the DH in 2021. Ozuna, 30, was the #Braves DH in a majority of games this year. @MLBNetwork
I wouldn't even support him on a minor league deal because it might mean with an injury or other event creating a need he would potentially find his way to Queens.
Ken Rosenthal
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Breakdown of Trevor May’s two-year, $15.5M deal with Mets: $7.75M in both 2021 and ‘22. Also: $50K each for 60, 65 and 70 appearances and $50K each for 60 and 70 innings. Terms first reported:
@JeffPassan
and we have a ton of RH Relievers. Really scratching my head on this move unless they think he has untapped upside--which I can see. But I hope they have a bigger analytics department in by the spring that can help him find out how to better use his talent. Not sure I have the same faith in hefner that others do.
not surprising. But they should get going on that. It takes a while to build up an analytics department, and to also build trust in the staff performing the analytics.
not surprising. But they should get going on that. It takes a while to build up an analytics department, and to also build trust in the staff performing the analytics.
Just to be clear, I'm not in any way doubting they will. I'm sure they are already in contact with people and/or have been working with some of the independent contractors
if they are bidding at the top of the free agent market, the value is already there, and there is enough data to support a valuation.
So I'm not sure how necessary it is in the *very* near future (like next 2 months), but once they get into trade talks, and player development, it will become valuable.
They should be able to get a functioning operation in 6 months.
But it will probably take a few years to get a well oiled machine. That's just the way it is with analytics, you also need some really creative thinkers, which you can find virtually anywhere. The salaries Cohen can pay these guys, who are probably ivy league egg heads will be very attractive in the long term.
But for this off-season, we should be ok without a top notch analytics department.
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wouldn't help the 2021 Mets (most likely) but he'd be like adding an additional first-round pick to the system
Is everyone bound in the bidding to stay within the IFA budgets or is this one of those situations where it's a open auction?
They are bound by the IFA budgets which SHOULD help the Mets because at least in terms of what BA was hearing.. the Mets had not even dabbled on the higher end names of the IFA market (no this wasn't a Cohen thing, these agreements are generally in place up to 24 months in advance) but this COULD work in our favor. It's also possible he finds a team that "promises" him either an MLB roster spot (unlikely) or a quicker path to the bigs (very possible) but all-in on Colas if possible and when Kim is posted I like him as well.
That's encouraging - these seem like the types of moves Sandy would be very eager to use Cohen's financial muscle for. Hope it happens - would be great to buy some top prospects this offseason.
Especially considering that it's 'just' money, there's no reason not to be involved.
It's such a weird time in baseball where teams would rather save money than acquire talent.
“Here’s a guy who’s figured some things out in the KBO,” said a scout about Rojas, Jr. “He showed some flashes of his tools in the minors, but he was not able to get all of them together to the major-league level. In Korea, he went from a decent doubles guy to a home run slugger (the exit-velo data year-to-year supports that) due to him adding strength. He also sacrificed some speed for that.”
Rojas looks like a slightly better option in most regards than fellow posted KBO outfielder Na. He struck out a fair amount, but less than Na. He hits the ball hard, and according to 2020 exit velocity, harder than Na, with a 114 mph exit velo and an average around 93 mph. He’s a little more pull-happy, especially from the right side, but as a former center fielder without the injury history, he’s likely to be more of a defensive asset, even if he’s no longer a center fielder. And he’s a switch hitter instead of a lefty-only guy.
Mauricio wasn't overly impressive this year at the alternate site. Still has big upside. Matt Allan with "huge strides" on his CU
Ginn a potential 3-4 SP
-Peterson needs to throw more strikes to be a legit MLB 4
Ginn who knows but if he can remain a solid SP prospect when he comes back from rehab great. Back end Peterson types have their value.
-laughed at the state of the Mets upper minors. Called it “empty” “nothing there” and said they have some prospects with big upside, no help on the way in 2021 and maybe not even 2022 (was less definitive there)
Players like him probably got hurt the most by the pandemic.
he's at the age where he need to "shit or get off the pot" due to injuries or whatever else.
Basically losing the season hurts double since he's aging out of prospect status.
Players like him probably got hurt the most by the pandemic.
he's at the age where he need to "shit or get off the pot" due to injuries or whatever else.
Basically losing the season hurts double since he's aging out of prospect status.
Presumably so. Wasn’t mentioned once, “big” drop after 11 and “nothing” in the upper minors. Szapucki pretty clearly didn’t garner any buzz at the alternate site either. Not saying it’s the end all be all but I’ve also heard they may see him as a reliever so I’m not sure even the Mets are overly high on him anymore. Guess we will see.
Sandy implied they intended to hire one even just to alleviate his workload. It’s been silent but the expectation is someone will be brought in soonish.
Once that deal is agreed to and people start getting notified they didn't get it, word will inevitably break pretty soon after that.
I have 0 inside information except the ability to look at a calendar, so I'd imagine they want to have the GM in place at least a few days prior to the WM even if they are virtual.
ranks potential @Mets
FA target as his #1 FA. He calls Springer's defense in CF "above average" (for those worried about a move to the corner) and believes he will stay in CF for "several" more years #Mets
ranks potential @Mets
FA target as his #1 FA. He calls Springer's defense in CF "above average" (for those worried about a move to the corner) and believes he will stay in CF for "several" more years #Mets
imagine they just say F it and sign both him and JTR?
Nimmo
Springer
McNeil
Alonso
Smith
JTR
Conforto
Rosario
Gimenez
Yeesh. Still need SP but that's practically an ASG lineup and the defense is far improved. You could probably get by with the BP as is.
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@keithlaw
ranks potential @Mets
FA target as his #1 FA. He calls Springer's defense in CF "above average" (for those worried about a move to the corner) and believes he will stay in CF for "several" more years #Mets
imagine they just say F it and sign both him and JTR?
Nimmo
Springer
McNeil
Alonso
Smith
JTR
Conforto
Rosario
Gimenez
Yeesh. Still need SP but that's practically an ASG lineup and the defense is far improved. You could probably get by with the BP as is.
I have to say, Springer is still my #1 target because I think there are other decent C's out there (NOTHING near Realmuto) but moving Nimmo and Dom and hopefully Alonso improves 3 defensive positions
I have to say, Springer is still my #1 target because I think there are other decent C's out there (NOTHING near Realmuto) but moving Nimmo and Dom and hopefully Alonso improves 3 defensive positions
Also gets Gimenez in there every day (likely at 2b but maybe SS or 3B depending on McNeil and Rosario).
If that were the group I wouldn't mind trying Rosario at 3B so Gimenez and McNeil can play their natural positions.
I love the bat but he has no position. I think he can playable in LF and obviously play some at DH. He's a luxury off the bench but in the above scenario you probably try to trade him for a SP with similar years of control.
He's got good power, but he's a bad fit on the Mets. Even with a DH I still don't think he's a great fit.
He should be traded.
He would rake in CO. I think he's a good piece for an Arenado trade. He could fill a lot of that production offensively at 10% of the cost.
Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
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Sources: #SFGiants have interest in free agent Marcell Ozuna, but their comfort level on valuation and term is somewhat contingent on whether NL has the DH in 2021. Ozuna, 30, was the #Braves DH in a majority of games this year. @MLBNetwork
Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
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1m
Sources: #SFGiants have interest in free agent Marcell Ozuna, but their comfort level on valuation and term is somewhat contingent on whether NL has the DH in 2021. Ozuna, 30, was the #Braves DH in a majority of games this year. @MLBNetwork
Lol
ITS HIS AGENTS FAULT!!!!
I wouldn't even support him on a minor league deal because it might mean with an injury or other event creating a need he would potentially find his way to Queens.
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
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Breakdown of Trevor May’s two-year, $15.5M deal with Mets: $7.75M in both 2021 and ‘22. Also: $50K each for 60, 65 and 70 appearances and $50K each for 60 and 70 innings. Terms first reported:
@JeffPassan
We're going with the all bullpen pitching staff!
Yup $5.2 million per Heyman.
Just to be clear, I'm not in any way doubting they will. I'm sure they are already in contact with people and/or have been working with some of the independent contractors
So I'm not sure how necessary it is in the *very* near future (like next 2 months), but once they get into trade talks, and player development, it will become valuable.
They should be able to get a functioning operation in 6 months.
But it will probably take a few years to get a well oiled machine. That's just the way it is with analytics, you also need some really creative thinkers, which you can find virtually anywhere. The salaries Cohen can pay these guys, who are probably ivy league egg heads will be very attractive in the long term.
But for this off-season, we should be ok without a top notch analytics department.