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Bengals to start QB Brandon Allen vs Giants

EddieNYG : 11/25/2020 8:17 am
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The #Bengals are planning to start QB Brandon Allen on Sunday vs. the #Giants, according to sources. Allen was on the practice squad until the other day when he replaced Joe Burrow on the roster. Ryan Finley, who came in for Burrow against #WashingtonFootball Team, will back up.

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Wow  
Jints in Carolina : 11/25/2020 8:18 am : link
As an NC State alum I am surprised to see this.
Not surprised at all Finley is trash and there’s film on him  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/25/2020 8:20 am : link
Playing a team out the bye. I’d rather play Finley for this reason alone.
Finley..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/25/2020 8:30 am : link
was a guy I thought would be a decent pro. He has looked terrible. Must really be terrible to replace him with a practice squad player.
No excuses  
JonC : 11/25/2020 8:33 am : link
Giants should win this game.
In the past I would worry about this  
jvm52106 : 11/25/2020 8:37 am : link
game in that the team would be flat or just unprepared. I don't think that will be the case here. If anything, we have had time to rest up a bit and I think this game we will see our best offensive effort of the year and our defense will get a chance to get after a QB in full.

Gallman and Jones should have big days.
RE: Finley..  
Jints in Carolina : 11/25/2020 8:42 am : link
In comment 15056368 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was a guy I thought would be a decent pro. He has looked terrible. Must really be terrible to replace him with a practice squad player.


I agree....I thought he would be a decent pro...this move obviously does not bode well for him.
RE: No excuses  
M.S. : 11/25/2020 8:42 am : link
In comment 15056370 JonC said:
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Giants should win this game.

"Should" is the operative word. But it's pretty easy to envision a loss against the lowly Bengals.
We have also never won a game in Cincinnati  
Jints in Carolina : 11/25/2020 8:43 am : link
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Brandon Allen started 3 games last year for the Broncos:  
EddieNYG : 11/25/2020 8:43 am : link
1-2 Record
39/84 (46.4%)
515 Yards
3 TDs 2 INTs
Sacked 9 times

Allen made his first career start for the Broncos vs the Browns in Week 9 of 2019, a 24-19 Broncos win.
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So, The Bengals are entering  
section125 : 11/25/2020 8:44 am : link
the tank for Trevor sweepstakes?
46.4 career completion percentage  
KDavies : 11/25/2020 8:45 am : link
In the NFL with the Broncos last year. The Giants can’t afford to lose this one
RE: So, The Bengals are entering  
Matt in SGS : 11/25/2020 8:47 am : link
In comment 15056380 section125 said:
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the tank for Trevor sweepstakes?


I wonder if this might not be out of the realm of possibility. If Burrow is so messed up that he might miss 2021 or never be the same, go draft another QB high. And trade one of them in 2022 if Burrow is healthy.
I doubt it. And not quite sure Allen is really a downgrade  
LBH15 : 11/25/2020 8:49 am : link
on many fronts versus Finley.

I always worry about the Giants against backup QB's. They always  
Blue21 : 11/25/2020 8:57 am : link
seem to lose or struggle against them when realistically they should crush them.
I think they want to guarantee they get Penai.  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/25/2020 8:57 am : link
Mixon was week to week and all of a sudden went to IR. Obviously they don’t want him to get hurt any further and then Burrow is out for the beginning of next year. They know how important it is to get him for their organization
Jonah Williams  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/25/2020 9:10 am : link
Has anyone followed him this season. I really liked him coming out of Alabama in 2019. He missed the entire 2019 season with an injury. I checked hid PFF page it they have him at 73.0 grade with 1 sack and 1 penalty. That’s pretty solid.
No way the Jets win 3, and no way the Bengals give up on Burrow  
PatersonPlank : 11/25/2020 9:14 am : link
The guy has been great. He will come back, injuries like his and Barkleys are a dime a dozen now, its not the 1970's when players didn't come back strong. I can list example after example but you can find them yourself. Every season there are some
RE: In the past I would worry about this  
BestFeature : 11/25/2020 9:15 am : link
In comment 15056372 jvm52106 said:
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game in that the team would be flat or just unprepared. I don't think that will be the case here. If anything, we have had time to rest up a bit and I think this game we will see our best offensive effort of the year and our defense will get a chance to get after a QB in full.

Gallman and Jones should have big days.


I'm somewhat confident but I remember that Niners game and I'm less confident.
RE: I always worry about the Giants against backup QB's. They always  
shyster : 11/25/2020 9:15 am : link
In comment 15056391 Blue21 said:
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seem to lose or struggle against them when realistically they should crush them.


This is often said but not borne out by recent history.

The 5-11 2018 Giants went 4-0 vs backup QBs.

When a reporter pointed that out to DG in his post-season PC, he pitched a fit, calling the question "offensive."
Line move  
armstead98 : 11/25/2020 9:16 am : link
Giants now favored by 5.5 after being 3.5 underdogs.

Giants should win this. Defense should hold them and offense runs the ball. No stupid turnovers.
RE: Line move  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/25/2020 9:19 am : link
In comment 15056408 armstead98 said:
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Giants now favored by 5.5 after being 3.5 underdogs.

Giants should win this. Defense should hold them and offense runs the ball. No stupid turnovers.


The Giants have been favorites since the line opened. When it came out, they were -4 or -5 depending on which sportsbook you looked at
RE: I always worry about the Giants against backup QB's. They always  
LBH15 : 11/25/2020 9:21 am : link
In comment 15056391 Blue21 said:
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seem to lose or struggle against them when realistically they should crush them.


A theme that had some merit well over a decade ago.

However, in the last 3 years teams with back-up QBs have made up the majority of NYG wins.

Kind of a "sweet-spot" during the DG reign. :-)
RE: RE: Line move  
armstead98 : 11/25/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 15056411 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Giants now favored by 5.5 after being 3.5 underdogs.

Giants should win this. Defense should hold them and offense runs the ball. No stupid turnovers.



The Giants have been favorites since the line opened. When it came out, they were -4 or -5 depending on which sportsbook you looked at


Yeah, Burrow was clearly out by the time the books opened but there was a lookahead line before that which indicated the bengals would have been favorites had he been healthy.
RE: RE: Line move  
shyster : 11/25/2020 9:23 am : link
In comment 15056411 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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The Giants have been favorites since the line opened. When it came out, they were -4 or -5 depending on which sportsbook you looked at


Not true. They were 2.5 underdogs per oddsshark history, which is very reliable.
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Giants were 3.5 underdogs  
Harvest Blend : 11/25/2020 9:29 am : link
at one point? Wow.
RE: RE: RE: Line move  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2020 9:36 am : link
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The Giants have been favorites since the line opened. When it came out, they were -4 or -5 depending on which sportsbook you looked at



Not true. They were 2.5 underdogs per oddsshark history, which is very reliable. oddsshark - ( New Window )

Those opening lines were from last week before the Burrow injury. When they opened on Sunday the Giants have always been favored
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Finley stinks  
Joey in VA : 11/25/2020 9:36 am : link
And Daniel Jeremiah said he would be a better pro than Daniel Jones. Good call dummy.
RE: Finley stinks  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2020 9:38 am : link
In comment 15056427 Joey in VA said:
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And Daniel Jeremiah said he would be a better pro than Daniel Jones. Good call dummy.

So did many on BBI while they were having their post draft meltdowns that season
Cincy  
BelieveJJ : 11/25/2020 9:39 am : link
Clearly in the hunt for Penei Sewell?
RE: Giants were 3.5 underdogs  
section125 : 11/25/2020 9:41 am : link
In comment 15056420 Harvest Blend said:
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at one point? Wow.


Not what I saw. They were -3 vs Bengals..
RE: RE: Finley stinks  
BelieveJJ : 11/25/2020 9:44 am : link
In comment 15056428 BigBlueShock said:
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And Daniel Jeremiah said he would be a better pro than Daniel Jones. Good call dummy.


So did many on BBI while they were having their post draft meltdowns that season


Whoa, let's not exagerrate this one into Jupiter.

Lots of folks were pissed the Giants drafted Jones 6th overall, plent of folks pissed they drafted Jones in round 1, and some folks pissed they drafted Jones at all, over Haskins and Lock, including me.


But I don't recall ANYONE (well, maybe one) saying they should draft Finley over Jones. Well, I guess other than Jeremiah...
Count me in  
bw in dc : 11/25/2020 9:46 am : link
as someone who thought Finley would work in the NFL. Had an excellent career with NCSt.

Guy looks totally lost.
bw in dc  
mittenedman : 11/25/2020 9:47 am : link
was one of those guys who posted 1,000 times Finley was the better value. Now he's littering the board with Justin Fields propaganda
LOL  
mittenedman : 11/25/2020 9:47 am : link
There you are! At least you're copping to it.
RE: RE: Finley..  
Milton : 11/25/2020 9:48 am : link
In comment 15056375 Jints in Carolina said:
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was a guy I thought would be a decent pro. He has looked terrible. Must really be terrible to replace him with a practice squad player.

I agree....I thought he would be a decent pro...this move obviously does not bode well for him.

I was on that bandwagon as well. He was on my radar as a potential Day 2 selection if they didn't go QB in round one.
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Harvest Blend : 11/25/2020 9:48 am : link
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at one point? Wow.



Not what I saw. They were -3 vs Bengals..


Was just responding to this. Sarcastically too I should add though I should have done a better job.

Line move
armstead98 : 9:16 am : link : reply

Giants now favored by 5.5 after being 3.5 underdogs.

Giants should win this. Defense should hold them and offense runs the ball. No stupid turnovers.
Bielema coached Brandon Allen at Arkansas  
90.Cal : 11/25/2020 9:49 am : link
Advantage us.
RE: RE: So, The Bengals are entering  
GoDeep13 : 11/25/2020 9:50 am : link
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the tank for Trevor sweepstakes?



I wonder if this might not be out of the realm of possibility. If Burrow is so messed up that he might miss 2021 or never be the same, go draft another QB high. And trade one of them in 2022 if Burrow is healthy.
Exactly. If you can get one of Lawrence, Fields, or even Wilson then do it. Give Burrow all of 2021 to recover and rehab and play the Rookie. Rookie has a promising rookie year? 2022 have a camp competition. Whoever wins stays, trade the other.
RE: RE: RE: Finley stinks  
BigBlueShock : 11/25/2020 9:51 am : link
In comment 15056434 BelieveJJ said:
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And Daniel Jeremiah said he would be a better pro than Daniel Jones. Good call dummy.


So did many on BBI while they were having their post draft meltdowns that season



Whoa, let's not exagerrate this one into Jupiter.

Lots of folks were pissed the Giants drafted Jones 6th overall, plent of folks pissed they drafted Jones in round 1, and some folks pissed they drafted Jones at all, over Haskins and Lock, including me.


But I don't recall ANYONE (well, maybe one) saying they should draft Finley over Jones. Well, I guess other than Jeremiah...

Your memory sucks. There was absolutely posters on this board that were saying that Finley would be the better pro than Jones and THAT was what was driving their hatred for the Jones pick at 6. Could have had Finley much later they said. You are a November 2020 register. That would explain why you don’t remember, huh? Unless of course you are a dupe?
I forgot he played for Broncos last year. That year  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/25/2020 9:51 am : link
was some of the ugliest QB play I’ve seen from one team that I can remember.
RE: So, The Bengals are entering  
FStubbs : 11/25/2020 9:52 am : link
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the tank for Trevor sweepstakes?


The Bengals have won 2.5 gammes, which are about 2.5 games too many to get Trevor Lawrence.
Backup RBs have killed the Giants  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/25/2020 9:54 am : link
so Bernard has a chance for a big day. Allen is ok, he's not DeNucci from DAL, he will make some plays and they have talent at WR.

All that being said, I think it will take multiple turnovers to lose this game, which is always possible.

I would love to see a breakout game from the offense this week, can they do it?
RE: We have also never won a game in Cincinnati  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/25/2020 9:55 am : link
In comment 15056378 Jints in Carolina said:
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Wow. Is that true? UFB.
RE: Count me in  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/25/2020 9:58 am : link
In comment 15056435 bw in dc said:
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as someone who thought Finley would work in the NFL. Had an excellent career with NCSt.

Guy looks totally lost.


I liked Finley too, but more as a career journeyman type. Pretty surprised he may not even be that, same with Grier.
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Zeke's Alibi : 11/25/2020 10:00 am : link
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The Giants have been favorites since the line opened. When it came out, they were -4 or -5 depending on which sportsbook you looked at



Not true. They were 2.5 underdogs per oddsshark history, which is very reliable. oddsshark - ( New Window )


This blows my mind, but I could see how stylistically they are tough for us with Burrow at the helm. I'd still thought we would be favored because we are going to buttfuck them on offense. Next few weeks should be fun watching us impose our will on defenses. We have a very big offensive line.

I just laid the 5.5 before that gets up to a TD. I guarantee that will be 6.5 by gameday.
Finley stinks  
Joey in VA : 11/25/2020 10:14 am : link
And Daniel Jeremiah said he would be a better pro than Daniel Jones. Good call dummy.
RE: LOL  
bw in dc : 11/25/2020 10:52 am : link
In comment 15056439 mittenedman said:
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There you are! At least you're copping to it.


Why wouldn't I? It's an opinion site and I gave my opinion. Should I be ashamed?

Same with Fields. I like watching him play and think he's got the goods to work in the NFL.

Or should I sit on the sidelines and wait to see what everyone else thinks? And then jump on that bandwagon?

Watched Finley extensively at State and thought he could be a decent  
Spider56 : 11/25/2020 10:58 am : link
game manager with the right offense, but he lacks a strong arm and always had trouble with the deep outs. He played with VG talent around him (Nyheim Hines, Jaylon Samuel, Jakobi Myers and Kelvin Harmon) with Harmon in particular catching everything he got a hand on. 3 of his OL are also in the NFL so Finley usually had good time to throw.
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Big Blue '56 : 11/25/2020 11:01 am : link
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Or should I sit on the sidelines and wait to see what everyone else thinks? And then jump on that bandwagon?



You have never done that here or away from BBI. You should suddenly start now?
Touché BW  
Dave on the UWS : 11/25/2020 11:09 am : link
nicely played!
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