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BBV: Edge, WR and CB FAs to consider

Big Blue '56 : 11/25/2020 3:28 pm
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EDGE:

Bud Dupree, Age 27, Pitts.

Shaquil Barrett, Age 28, TB

Hassan Reddick, Az, a hybrid guy who has played predominantly at Edge this year and having his best season.


WR:

Allen Robinson, 27, Chicago

Kenny Golladay, 27, Det

Corey Davis, 25, Tenn


CB


William Jackson III, 28, Cin

Shaquill Griffin, 25, Seattle

Patrick Peterson, 31, Am




Write-ups available when you click on link as well as other options to consider for the aforementioned FA positions
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I would not consider PP from Az at CB  
Big Blue '56 : 11/25/2020 3:40 pm : link
for any real dollars. At 31, not what he was.
Honestly the only thing  
tyrik13 : 11/25/2020 3:52 pm : link
We should be doing with our FA money is resigning DT and Leo. Get our WRs in the draft, along with our DBs. Then see who is left to sign at edge in FA
Golladay or Robinson AND Dupree or Barrett  
90.Cal : 11/25/2020 3:56 pm : link
While still re-signing Williams and Tomlinson would be a grandslam of a free agency for us...
RE: Honestly the only thing  
Big Blue '56 : 11/25/2020 3:56 pm : link
In comment 15056788 tyrik13 said:
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We should be doing with our FA money is resigning DT and Leo. Get our WRs in the draft, along with our DBs. Then see who is left to sign at edge in FA


Personally, couldn’t agree more. But, should we opt to go the FA route, these are who they’d consider.
Godwin is a FA too, right?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/25/2020 4:06 pm : link
I agree with going the way of the draft but with the cap almost certainly decreasing we are going to see a lot of bargains.
I agree with you guys and hope this is the plan  
arniefez : 11/25/2020 4:14 pm : link
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RE: Honestly the only thing
Big Blue '56 : 3:56 pm : link : reply
In comment 15056788 tyrik13 said:
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We should be doing with our FA money is resigning DT and Leo. Get our WRs in the draft, along with our DBs. Then see who is left to sign at edge in FA


Personally, couldn’t agree more. But, should we opt to go the FA route, these are who they’d consider.
We're so short  
lugnut : 11/25/2020 4:14 pm : link
in all three of those positions that we should take an FA AND a draft pick in each. Literally. Only disqualifying factor would be the FA $$.

This is DG's chance to shine. Those FAs are known quantities; signing one is no great insight/accomplishment. He needs to unearth some relatively cheap gems, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Cory Davis would look good in blue  
gtt350 : 11/25/2020 4:28 pm : link
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RE: RE: Honestly the only thing  
Jay on the Island : 11/25/2020 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15056794 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 15056788 tyrik13 said:


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We should be doing with our FA money is resigning DT and Leo. Get our WRs in the draft, along with our DBs. Then see who is left to sign at edge in FA



Personally, couldn’t agree more. But, should we opt to go the FA route, these are who they’d consider.

I would like to see the Giants add Golladay in FA and then address Edge rusher, CB, WR, TE, and ILB in the draft. Even if they did add Golladay I would like to see the Giants add another WR to the depth chart in rounds 3-6.
this is real simple  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/25/2020 4:46 pm : link
they have to draft a premium ER in the first round - they have to sign a decent vet CB and they have to draft a WR either 2nd or 3rd round in a WR rich draft that will be a standout -- DT is in the mix too in that range
Another corner I'd toss into the ring...  
bw in dc : 11/25/2020 5:00 pm : link
is Kevin King, Green Bay.

I really liked King coming out of Washington - sort of Corner U - and think he still has a lot of upside. Just has this latest issue with the Achilles. So it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
RE: Another corner I'd toss into the ring...  
Big Blue '56 : 11/25/2020 5:07 pm : link
In comment 15056835 bw in dc said:
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is Kevin King, Green Bay.

I really liked King coming out of Washington - sort of Corner U - and think he still has a lot of upside. Just has this latest issue with the Achilles. So it will be interesting to see how that plays out.


If it’s an issue, then no. We’ve been down that route more than I’ve liked. Let’s not start behind the 8-ball anymore, if possible
Several of the  
greek13 : 11/25/2020 5:07 pm : link
Players being discussed will not hit the market
Then we will know where to focus
It’s great not to have so many needs on the list
RE: this is real simple  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/25/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15056829 gidiefor said:
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they have to draft a premium ER in the first round - they have to sign a decent vet CB and they have to draft a WR either 2nd or 3rd round in a WR rich draft that will be a standout -- DT is in the mix too in that range
I agree with this.
RE: Honestly the only thing  
US1 Giants : 11/25/2020 5:50 pm : link
In comment 15056788 tyrik13 said:
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We should be doing with our FA money is resigning DT and Leo. Get our WRs in the draft, along with our DBs. Then see who is left to sign at edge in FA


Good plan. I agree.
FA edge and draft WR  
OttawaGiants : 11/25/2020 6:07 pm : link
I'd like to see them add an edge rusher via free agency (Dupree would like nice in blue) and build the rest of the team through the draft. The injury history for A-Rob and Golladay concern me.

I'd be in on Godwin if available but he would probably cost a ton and with the upcoming draft being so deep (so I hear) at WR I think it makes more sense to look in that direction. Plus with Barkely coming back next year it should give the WR's more space to work with.

Look at how guys like CeeDee Lamb and Justin Jefferson have performed as rookies this year. Add that production to what we already have at WR, then throw Barkley back in the mix and we're cooking.
Juju could be available  
Longtimelurker : 11/25/2020 9:09 pm : link
Claypool is better and cheaper. Steelers may choose not to pay Juju with Bud Dupree needing a deal
RE: this is real simple  
section125 : 11/25/2020 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15056829 gidiefor said:
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they have to draft a premium ER in the first round - they have to sign a decent vet CB and they have to draft a WR either 2nd or 3rd round in a WR rich draft that will be a standout -- DT is in the mix too in that range


No. They need to draft the best of ILB, ER, WR or CB. And that goes for any round. Do not reach for a ER when a CB or ILB who is superior is available.

Right now they have five picks 1,2,3,4,6. 5 goes to Jets and 7 to the Broncos, IIRC
RE: RE: this is real simple  
BelieveJJ : 11/26/2020 12:10 am : link
In comment 15056960 section125 said:
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In comment 15056829 gidiefor said:


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they have to draft a premium ER in the first round - they have to sign a decent vet CB and they have to draft a WR either 2nd or 3rd round in a WR rich draft that will be a standout -- DT is in the mix too in that range



No. They need to draft the best of ILB, ER, WR or CB. And that goes for any round. Do not reach for a ER when a CB or ILB who is superior is available.

Right now they have five picks 1,2,3,4,6. 5 goes to Jets and 7 to the Broncos, IIRC


They acquired Arizona's 7th round pick for Markus Golden. So they have 6 picks now. There's still some question about whether they'll need to send their 5th or even 4th rounder to the Jets to conclude the Williams trade, because Williams has never hit FA status.
RE: I would not consider PP from Az at CB  
allstarjim : 11/26/2020 1:38 am : link
In comment 15056783 Big Blue '56 said:
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for any real dollars. At 31, not what he was.


I agree that it doesn't make sense to go after PatPete (mostly because Getty just paid Bradberry and I think we're ok at the position, perhaps a nickel if anything. But PatPete is still playing at an elite level and is one of the best CBs in the NFL. Whoever said otherwise hasn't watched his battles with Metcalf.
Obviously the Giants will be interested in Golladay.  
mittenedman : 11/26/2020 8:48 am : link
Beyond that, I agree they will target an ER early in the draft. Those are the 2 glaring holes - the Giants are actually getting solid CB play by committee at the #2 CB spot right now. With Beal coming back, and Darnay Holmes coming up, I don't see that as a glaring hole. I'd look to add another vet or mid-round pick if the value's there. But it's WR, DE and TE for me. I'd love to see them get a Shockey or a Gronk. Even if Engram is kept around.
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JB_in_DC : 11/26/2020 8:53 am : link
In comment 15056974 BelieveJJ said:
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In comment 15056960 section125 said:


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In comment 15056829 gidiefor said:


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they have to draft a premium ER in the first round - they have to sign a decent vet CB and they have to draft a WR either 2nd or 3rd round in a WR rich draft that will be a standout -- DT is in the mix too in that range



No. They need to draft the best of ILB, ER, WR or CB. And that goes for any round. Do not reach for a ER when a CB or ILB who is superior is available.

Right now they have five picks 1,2,3,4,6. 5 goes to Jets and 7 to the Broncos, IIRC



They acquired Arizona's 7th round pick for Markus Golden. So they have 6 picks now. There's still some question about whether they'll need to send their 5th or even 4th rounder to the Jets to conclude the Williams trade, because Williams has never hit FA status.


Golden netted a 6th rounder in the trade.
I certainly wouldn’t mind exploring TE,  
Big Blue '56 : 11/26/2020 8:58 am : link
but that’s not very high on the priority list, imv
Not seeing too many answers  
JonC : 11/26/2020 1:38 pm : link
on this list. Upgrades for sure, but a lot of warts for open market dollars.
Re-sign our top guys first  
D HOS : 11/27/2020 9:13 am : link
Then get Corey Davis b/c he's one of the few NFL Corey's we haven't had yet. Other than that, draft - only sign someone young and talented who comes in undervalued.
RE: Re-sign our top guys first  
Big Blue '56 : 11/27/2020 9:16 am : link
In comment 15057507 D HOS said:
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Then get Corey Davis b/c he's one of the few NFL Corey's we haven't had yet. Other than that, draft - only sign someone young and talented who comes in undervalued.


THAT was funny. Well played...:)
This would be my FA plan for the Giants  
Jay on the Island : 11/27/2020 12:54 pm : link
Follow last season's plan of targeting young veterans. My main targets would be:
1 out of these WR's - Will Fuller, Kenny Golladay, or Corey Davis

Target OLB Hassan Reddick. He is a perfect fit for their defense. If the Giants miss out on him then go after Ryan Kerrigan on a 1-2 year deal. I know that he is over 30 but used correctly he is still a very good pass rusher. He would serve as a temporary stopgap.
Dan Schneier and Nick Falato of Big Blue Banter  
BelieveJJ : 11/28/2020 9:53 am : link
(and other media) favor the relatively untapped potential of Corey Davis of the Titans. A former 5th overall draft pick, he's having his best year in 2020 but is still not nearly as accomplished as Robinson or Golladay to this point, so is bound to be far less costly and may be e available on a prove it type one or two year deal. He's young enough for that to make sense for him.

He's a former Western Michigan teammate of Sam Beal too, FWIW.

According to Sportac Davis' estimated market value is ~8 mil per year (compared with Allen Robinson's 18 mil per). So unloading Tate and adding Davis would be about the same yearly cost, maybe even a savings.

I don't know boo about his game, but he hasn't played with a decent QB until Tannehill. Could he thrive in Garrett's system?
Golladay's market value via Sportac  
BelieveJJ : 11/28/2020 10:07 am : link
is almost 19 mil per year.

So it adds up in theory to a choice of Robinson/Golladay or Davis plus Tomlinson.

That's a no brainer, IMO, despite the higher risk of Davis vs the other top WR.
I do not want to spend big bucks on a WR..  
Big Blue '56 : 11/28/2020 10:20 am : link
Guys like Plax in FA are not a dime a dozen..My understanding is that this will be a good year for WRs in the draft.
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