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Mike McCarthy.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2020 7:36 pm
Yeah. Glad he ain't our head coach.
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Never wanted him  
V.I.G. : 11/26/2020 7:40 pm : link
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That decision to fake punt was ridiculous  
The_Boss : 11/26/2020 7:40 pm : link
After that, the game just snowballed on Dallas.
Maybe he'll crush some more watermelons  
Fishmanjim57 : 11/26/2020 7:42 pm : link
Dallass is finished!
Should be an interesting sleepover tonight on Jerry’s yacht  
The_Boss : 11/26/2020 7:44 pm : link
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Good news  
Dukie Dimes : 11/26/2020 7:45 pm : link
For the giants. Washington’s schedule is much tougher. They have

@ Pitt
@ SF
Sea
Car
@ Phi

Can’t see more than two wins max. That’s 6-10. Giants finish at 6-10 and have the tiebreaker.
RE: Good news  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/26/2020 7:48 pm : link
In comment 15057323 Dukie Dimes said:
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For the giants. Washington’s schedule is much tougher. They have

@ Pitt
@ SF
Sea
Car
@ Phi

Can’t see more than two wins max. That’s 6-10. Giants finish at 6-10 and have the tiebreaker.


I see 1 (Carolina), possibly 2 (Carolina, Philly) there.
Even if you convince me that the fake was a good idea  
BlackLight : 11/26/2020 7:54 pm : link
calling a reverse that starts 14 yards behind the LOS was astonishingly bad play-calling. Even if the defense is caught completely off guard by the fake, they have more than enough time to recover and make a stop.
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christian : 11/26/2020 7:57 pm : link
I’m very thankful this Thanksgiving Ron Rivera nor Mike Mccarthy coach the Giants.
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Mdgiantsfan : 11/26/2020 8:02 pm : link
Yeah I didn't want him, but man that was a terrible call and totally shot their chances of winning this game.
Fat guy in a little mask  
jlukes : 11/26/2020 8:02 pm : link
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Sucks  
ZogZerg : 11/26/2020 8:05 pm : link
Can't believe folks on BBI wanted him...
I like the fake punt idea.  
LBH15 : 11/26/2020 8:07 pm : link
Haha
The fake punt wasn't the worst call in the world,  
Red Dog : 11/26/2020 8:09 pm : link
but that play had about zero chance of succeeding.
RE: ...  
FStubbs : 11/26/2020 8:09 pm : link
In comment 15057338 christian said:
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I’m very thankful this Thanksgiving Ron Rivera nor Mike Mccarthy coach the Giants.


True.

Though I think Rivera showed today he's better than McCarthy. McCarthy is a joke.
I’m not right about a lot, but I knew that guy wasn’t  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/26/2020 8:11 pm : link
a good coach. The 4th down deep in their own territory and the fake punt lost the damn game.

Favre and Aaron Rodgers covered up a lot of his stupidity.
It does make you wonder what Rodgers ceiling could have been  
adamg : 11/26/2020 8:13 pm : link
If he had his own Belicheck...

Only one ring with the most talented passer ever is pathetic.
RE: The fake punt wasn't the worst call in the world,  
LBH15 : 11/26/2020 8:16 pm : link
In comment 15057355 Red Dog said:
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but that play had about zero chance of succeeding.


I am not sure the element of surprise outweighs how close the game was. at time, how deep they were on their side of field, that they needed 10 yards and the Dallas defense was holding their own.

If it was a good call I just can’t see it. Maybe they saw a tendency to exploit?
Nobody wanted Joe Judge either  
JohnB : 11/26/2020 8:18 pm : link
Just stating the facts....
Everything comes down to risk reward.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/26/2020 8:19 pm : link
What was the reward? Seriously? A first down at the ~35 yard line? It doesn't put you in FG range. Your offense isn't moving the ball so there is also a good chance they have to punt again anyway. What is the risk? Well, we all saw what the risk was. You can't call that shitty play at your own 24 yard line.
RE: Nobody wanted Joe Judge either  
Jay on the Island : 11/26/2020 8:20 pm : link
In comment 15057366 JohnB said:
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Just stating the facts....

This is not true at all. Nobody knew who he was at the time but once they say his press conference he won most fans over.
RE: Nobody wanted Joe Judge either  
robbieballs2003 : 11/26/2020 8:22 pm : link
In comment 15057366 JohnB said:
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Just stating the facts....


If you are stating facts then give it context. McCarthy benefitted from having one of the best QBs ever. He missed team meetings to get massages. And after he was hired he admitted to lying in his interview at his introductory press conference about watching film on his year off.

Judge on the other hand was just an unknown. It isn't that people didn't want him because they knew him. It was because he was an unknownm
He lied about watching film?  
LBH15 : 11/26/2020 8:24 pm : link
There was a whole video on him doing it basically every day at his home office.
RE: Nobody wanted Joe Judge either  
UConn4523 : 11/26/2020 8:29 pm : link
In comment 15057366 JohnB said:
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Just stating the facts....


Who’s nobody? I was pumped for his candidacy and hiring, as were others. McCarthy and Garrett were on my absolutely not list (the only two in fact).
What about 4th and 1 on their own 30....  
No Where Man : 11/26/2020 8:35 pm : link
in the first half? That call was worse.
RE: He lied about watching film?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/26/2020 8:38 pm : link
In comment 15057373 LBH15 said:
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There was a whole video on him doing it basically every day at his home office.


Yeah, he admitted it. Maybe it was him "breaking down" film and analyzing it or analyzing the Cowboys from that year but he flat out said he lied about it.
RE: He lied about watching film?  
robbieballs2003 : 11/26/2020 8:40 pm : link
In comment 15057373 LBH15 said:
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There was a whole video on him doing it basically every day at his home office.


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"Well, I need to confess. I told Jerry that I watched every play of the 2019 season, but I wanted the job," McCarthy said with a laugh. "I haven't watched every play of the season, but you do what you gotta do, right?"


Exactly what you want in a leader.
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He's had an awful debut year with Dallas...  
BillKo : 11/26/2020 8:48 pm : link
...those two fourth down gambles were horrid.

You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.

And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.

Add on to that  
kes722 : 11/26/2020 8:48 pm : link
Dalton threw it 35 time and elliot only carried 10 times.

If we had our back up QB in and Barkley only gets 10 carries people would be losing their shit.
I listened to McCarthy's postgame interview  
No Where Man : 11/26/2020 9:45 pm : link
He said that the information they had gathered told them the fake punt was "a solid call". Just FYI the information was gathered by coach Bones Fassel.
RE: Good news  
santacruzom : 11/26/2020 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15057323 Dukie Dimes said:
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For the giants. Washington’s schedule is much tougher. They have

@ Pitt
@ SF
Sea
Car
@ Phi


I could see them beating the completely depleted 9'ers and the Eagles. Carolina is a possibility too.
6 games to go. If you are a playoff contender and not a pretender,  
Ivan15 : 11/26/2020 10:05 pm : link
You man up and find a way to win more than half your remaining games.
RE: Everything comes down to risk reward.  
djm : 11/26/2020 10:10 pm : link
In comment 15057368 robbieballs2003 said:
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What was the reward? Seriously? A first down at the ~35 yard line? It doesn't put you in FG range. Your offense isn't moving the ball so there is also a good chance they have to punt again anyway. What is the risk? Well, we all saw what the risk was. You can't call that shitty play at your own 24 yard line.


Except right in my view as well
Exactly right  
djm : 11/26/2020 10:11 pm : link
Not except
It  
dorgan : 11/26/2020 10:13 pm : link
Was an idiotic gamble given down, distance, score and time remaining. The kind of call that gets coaches fired.
RE: Nobody wanted Joe Judge either  
mfsd : 11/26/2020 10:26 pm : link
In comment 15057366 JohnB said:
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Just stating the facts....


Not true, several of us did. A buddy of mine gets some inside info from the Pats, and told me before he was even mentioned as a candidate the Giants should consider him, bc he was considered a great head coaching candidate in New England. Several of us were excited about Judge early on

As for McCarthy, yeah it’s a little harder without Aaron Rodgers in his prime to save you from your dumbassery
Fake punts are one thing  
Greg from LI : 11/26/2020 10:34 pm : link
But it was a 4 point game at that point, 12+ minutes remaining, and 4th and 10 deep in their own end. Given all that, it was an incredibly stupid call.
SO glad  
broadbandz : 11/26/2020 10:50 pm : link
the boys hired him. Hope isn't fired before we get one more crack at him. And good ole Doug is dumb as hell as well with his 2 pt tries.
I DO NOT LIKE MCCARTHY AS COACH!  
State Your Name : 11/26/2020 11:31 pm : link
HE IS A BAD COACH
In all honesty  
montanagiant : 11/27/2020 12:07 am : link
That was about the worse coaching job I have seen in a game since Pete Carrol decided to throw the ball in the SB on 1st down at the goal line 5 years ago.
RE: Nobody wanted Joe Judge either  
montanagiant : 11/27/2020 12:15 am : link
In comment 15057366 JohnB said:
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Just stating the facts....

LMAO, this is about the silliest claim of "facts" I have seen on here. Seriously, what do you base this claim on?
The guy has interviewed for one NFL HC job and got it AFTER he was offered the Mississippi State HC job.

He impressed so much that he got an offer from one of the premiere HC spots in the NFL his first time interviewing for an NFL HC job.
RE: Fake punts are one thing  
montanagiant : 11/27/2020 12:17 am : link
In comment 15057428 Greg from LI said:
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But it was a 4 point game at that point, 12+ minutes remaining, and 4th and 10 deep in their own end. Given all that, it was an incredibly stupid call.

It was the kind of idiotic call one could actually be suspicious of being made to throw a game. That's not what happened but it was truly that moronic. it might work at the HS level but when you have pros that have years of experience that was nothing but idiotic
RE: What about 4th and 1 on their own 30....  
Sonic Youth : 11/27/2020 1:10 am : link
In comment 15057384 No Where Man said:
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in the first half? That call was worse.
this was easily the worst call. As j was reading this thread, u was waiting for someone to bring this up
RE: RE: What about 4th and 1 on their own 30....  
BlackLight : 11/27/2020 2:38 am : link
In comment 15057446 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 15057384 No Where Man said:


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in the first half? That call was worse.

this was easily the worst call. As j was reading this thread, u was waiting for someone to bring this up


No, it wasn't. It was bad, but you leave yourself plenty of time to overcome it if you don't convert.

But you could pick three different reasons why the fake punt was indefensible. Risk vs. reward, down and distance, play-call - any one of those.
he's an  
Allen in CNJ : 11/27/2020 4:36 am : link
unmitigated disaster
Perhaps the worst managed/coached  
section125 : 11/27/2020 4:59 am : link
game I have ever seen.

I actually was semi-impressed by WFT. But was that because the Cowboys were so badly planned or because they played well. Those gaping holes in the dline at the end were rather impressive.

McCarthy, one and done.
RE: He's had an awful debut year with Dallas...  
Rafflee : 11/27/2020 5:13 am : link
In comment 15057394 BillKo said:
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...those two fourth down gambles were horrid.

You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.

And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.


Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
RE: RE: He's had an awful debut year with Dallas...  
Rafflee : 11/27/2020 5:17 am : link
In comment 15057455 Rafflee said:
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In comment 15057394 BillKo said:


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...those two fourth down gambles were horrid.

You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.

And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.


Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!





Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
I think Giants ownership and the front office deserve credit for  
Ira : 11/27/2020 6:47 am : link
passing on McCarthy and hiring Judge.
So I guess now we know why Aaron Rodgers...  
EricJ : 11/27/2020 6:55 am : link
was trying to run him out of GB
RE: It  
chick310 : 11/27/2020 6:57 am : link
In comment 15057424 dorgan said:
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Was an idiotic gamble given down, distance, score and time remaining. The kind of call that gets coaches fired.


Well, we don't want him fired.
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