calling a reverse that starts 14 yards behind the LOS was astonishingly bad play-calling. Even if the defense is caught completely off guard by the fake, they have more than enough time to recover and make a stop.
but that play had about zero chance of succeeding.
I am not sure the element of surprise outweighs how close the game was. at time, how deep they were on their side of field, that they needed 10 yards and the Dallas defense was holding their own.
If it was a good call I just can’t see it. Maybe they saw a tendency to exploit?
What was the reward? Seriously? A first down at the ~35 yard line? It doesn't put you in FG range. Your offense isn't moving the ball so there is also a good chance they have to punt again anyway. What is the risk? Well, we all saw what the risk was. You can't call that shitty play at your own 24 yard line.
If you are stating facts then give it context. McCarthy benefitted from having one of the best QBs ever. He missed team meetings to get massages. And after he was hired he admitted to lying in his interview at his introductory press conference about watching film on his year off.
Judge on the other hand was just an unknown. It isn't that people didn't want him because they knew him. It was because he was an unknownm
There was a whole video on him doing it basically every day at his home office.
Yeah, he admitted it. Maybe it was him "breaking down" film and analyzing it or analyzing the Cowboys from that year but he flat out said he lied about it.
There was a whole video on him doing it basically every day at his home office.
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"Well, I need to confess. I told Jerry that I watched every play of the 2019 season, but I wanted the job," McCarthy said with a laugh. "I haven't watched every play of the season, but you do what you gotta do, right?"
You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.
And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.
He said that the information they had gathered told them the fake punt was "a solid call". Just FYI the information was gathered by coach Bones Fassel.
What was the reward? Seriously? A first down at the ~35 yard line? It doesn't put you in FG range. Your offense isn't moving the ball so there is also a good chance they have to punt again anyway. What is the risk? Well, we all saw what the risk was. You can't call that shitty play at your own 24 yard line.
Not true, several of us did. A buddy of mine gets some inside info from the Pats, and told me before he was even mentioned as a candidate the Giants should consider him, bc he was considered a great head coaching candidate in New England. Several of us were excited about Judge early on
As for McCarthy, yeah it’s a little harder without Aaron Rodgers in his prime to save you from your dumbassery
But it was a 4 point game at that point, 12+ minutes remaining, and 4th and 10 deep in their own end. Given all that, it was an incredibly stupid call.
That was about the worse coaching job I have seen in a game since Pete Carrol decided to throw the ball in the SB on 1st down at the goal line 5 years ago.
LMAO, this is about the silliest claim of "facts" I have seen on here. Seriously, what do you base this claim on?
The guy has interviewed for one NFL HC job and got it AFTER he was offered the Mississippi State HC job.
He impressed so much that he got an offer from one of the premiere HC spots in the NFL his first time interviewing for an NFL HC job.
But it was a 4 point game at that point, 12+ minutes remaining, and 4th and 10 deep in their own end. Given all that, it was an incredibly stupid call.
It was the kind of idiotic call one could actually be suspicious of being made to throw a game. That's not what happened but it was truly that moronic. it might work at the HS level but when you have pros that have years of experience that was nothing but idiotic
I actually was semi-impressed by WFT. But was that because the Cowboys were so badly planned or because they played well. Those gaping holes in the dline at the end were rather impressive.
You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.
And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.
Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
RE: RE: He's had an awful debut year with Dallas...
You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.
And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.
Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
I think Giants ownership and the front office deserve credit for
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Can’t see more than two wins max. That’s 6-10. Giants finish at 6-10 and have the tiebreaker.
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Can’t see more than two wins max. That’s 6-10. Giants finish at 6-10 and have the tiebreaker.
I see 1 (Carolina), possibly 2 (Carolina, Philly) there.
True.
Though I think Rivera showed today he's better than McCarthy. McCarthy is a joke.
Favre and Aaron Rodgers covered up a lot of his stupidity.
Only one ring with the most talented passer ever is pathetic.
I am not sure the element of surprise outweighs how close the game was. at time, how deep they were on their side of field, that they needed 10 yards and the Dallas defense was holding their own.
If it was a good call I just can’t see it. Maybe they saw a tendency to exploit?
This is not true at all. Nobody knew who he was at the time but once they say his press conference he won most fans over.
If you are stating facts then give it context. McCarthy benefitted from having one of the best QBs ever. He missed team meetings to get massages. And after he was hired he admitted to lying in his interview at his introductory press conference about watching film on his year off.
Judge on the other hand was just an unknown. It isn't that people didn't want him because they knew him. It was because he was an unknownm
Who’s nobody? I was pumped for his candidacy and hiring, as were others. McCarthy and Garrett were on my absolutely not list (the only two in fact).
Yeah, he admitted it. Maybe it was him "breaking down" film and analyzing it or analyzing the Cowboys from that year but he flat out said he lied about it.
Exactly what you want in a leader.
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You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.
And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.
If we had our back up QB in and Barkley only gets 10 carries people would be losing their shit.
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I could see them beating the completely depleted 9'ers and the Eagles. Carolina is a possibility too.
Except right in my view as well
Not true, several of us did. A buddy of mine gets some inside info from the Pats, and told me before he was even mentioned as a candidate the Giants should consider him, bc he was considered a great head coaching candidate in New England. Several of us were excited about Judge early on
As for McCarthy, yeah it’s a little harder without Aaron Rodgers in his prime to save you from your dumbassery
LMAO, this is about the silliest claim of "facts" I have seen on here. Seriously, what do you base this claim on?
The guy has interviewed for one NFL HC job and got it AFTER he was offered the Mississippi State HC job.
He impressed so much that he got an offer from one of the premiere HC spots in the NFL his first time interviewing for an NFL HC job.
It was the kind of idiotic call one could actually be suspicious of being made to throw a game. That's not what happened but it was truly that moronic. it might work at the HS level but when you have pros that have years of experience that was nothing but idiotic
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in the first half? That call was worse.
this was easily the worst call. As j was reading this thread, u was waiting for someone to bring this up
No, it wasn't. It was bad, but you leave yourself plenty of time to overcome it if you don't convert.
But you could pick three different reasons why the fake punt was indefensible. Risk vs. reward, down and distance, play-call - any one of those.
I actually was semi-impressed by WFT. But was that because the Cowboys were so badly planned or because they played well. Those gaping holes in the dline at the end were rather impressive.
McCarthy, one and done.
You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.
And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.
Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
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...those two fourth down gambles were horrid.
You can literally say, he gave the game away with those two calls.........otherwise they are probably within one score at the end of the game - and a chance to win. Not saying they win, but he secured a loss with both calls.
And I do understand the special team call maybe wasn't his - but in the end its his responsibility.
Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
Are we actually in agreement That the Call was Made by the Specials Coach?????? If that's the Decision Making Structure, McCarthy should have been Gone by 9pm!!!!
Well, we don't want him fired.