Jason Garrett was really upset over the Columbo firing.
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4:08 pm : link : reply
That’s the only explanation for some of the play calls. Then when he made a decent play call, Cam Fleming acted like Cam Fleming.
So you're thinking Jason Garret intentionally called a bad game? As revenge?
Sarcasm isn’t your friend. This isn’t the game thread... people aren’t that crazy here.
That’s the only explanation for some of the play calls. Then when he made a decent play call, Cam Fleming acted like Cam Fleming.
Anyone who ever said they were better off with Colt McCoy was obviously out of their mind. I don’t know how Daniel Jones’ career will turn out, but it will definitely be better than Colt McCoy’s. Hopefully Danny can come back in 2 weeks.
When you lose to a team worse than you are, 3 things happened:
- penalties
- turnovers
- special teams
The Giants avoided one of them and barely held on.
McCoy did what he needed to do, hold on to the football. He will be much better with a week of 1st team snaps. He got too excited on that flats pass over Lewis head.
Yeah he panicked
That’s lack of playing in a real game in a few years.
McCoy did what he needed to do, hold on to the football. He will be much better with a week of 1st team snaps. He got too excited on that flats pass over Lewis head.
You’ve got more faith in him than I do. Hopefully you’re right.
to be excoriated for that Bengals TD drive. And it is not the 1st time he has done it. He never puts pressure on the QB late in a game or late in a half. He seems content to play a little prevent offense and allows the opposing team big chunks of yardage.
He makes a brilliant game plan, then doesn't get some addition pressure when he should.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
are not a good football team. Tons of mistakes and inexplicable play calling. Way too much running on first down after Jones was hurt.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
to be excoriated for that Bengals TD drive. And it is not the 1st time he has done it. He never puts pressure on the QB late in a game or late in a half. He seems content to play a little prevent offense and allows the opposing team big chunks of yardage.
He makes a brilliant game plan, then doesn't get some addition pressure when he should.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
are not a good football team. Tons of mistakes and inexplicable play calling. Way too much running on first down after Jones was hurt.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Good summary ... Dion Lewis was pretty good today too ... EE was EE, great plays and yet the fumble. Pray DJ is a fast healer but that hammy looked bad.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
I tend to agree. The TD drive was more about the penalties, one dumb and the other nonexistent. The defense was excellent except for like 2 or 3’plays outside of that drive.
call. 6 points even to a 3rd stringer is NOT a bad result. Our offense wasn't great but Jones had his highest yardage first half in his career. Colt McCoy was HORRIBLE. Honestly, we're not good enough to be disappointed in results like this. This was also probably the first game our STs sucked, that's an outlier.
are not a good football team. Tons of mistakes and inexplicable play calling. Way too much running on first down after Jones was hurt.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Good summary ... Dion Lewis was pretty good today too ... EE was EE, great plays and yet the fumble. Pray DJ is a fast healer but that hammy looked bad.
don't know why Garrett is taking shit. What kind of gameplan was he supposed to have? We ran the ball well. We more than doubled the Cincy output. We valued possession of the ball and just missed a TD to Slayton and did hit two downfield plays when we took the shot.
I tend to agree. The TD drive was more about the penalties, one dumb and the other nonexistent. The defense was excellent except for like 2 or 3’plays outside of that drive.
Look, after another case of special teams coverage, Graham's D saved the game. That's the story.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
I tend to agree. The TD drive was more about the penalties, one dumb and the other nonexistent. The defense was excellent except for like 2 or 3’plays outside of that drive.
I am certain about it. He should have had blitzes a little more often. 3 man rushes do not cut it when the other team needs to throw the ball. The DBs played well enough that he should have been sending more people to get Allen moving.
The rest of the game was great. But he just doesn't pressure the QB late in games.
I agree that LW's penalty was beyond stupid and the Holmes one was just blown - when both announcers are dumbfounded and can not find where the penalty is, it was not a penalty.
Amazing that there are posters who think BBI is overly positive..
is beating other crappy teams instead of finding ways to lose.
Not long ago this game would have gone the other way.
Are Giants a good team? Not yet. But I don't think I'm kidding myself when I see this team headed in the right direction.
^ This...
I said something similar on the "Statement Win" thread...
Improvement starts with beating the crappy teams. However, I would not get too excited about barely eking out a win against a lousy team that had the backup for the entire game, not just the 4th qtr.
are not a good football team. Tons of mistakes and inexplicable play calling. Way too much running on first down after Jones was hurt.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Good summary ... Dion Lewis was pretty good today too ... EE was EE, great plays and yet the fumble. Pray DJ is a fast healer but that hammy looked bad.
Deserve a standing ovation for te effort put in to try and get them Cowboys into first place with only 1 team. Pretty sickening ending if you ask me. The league is bordering on being fixed now.
don't know why Garrett is taking shit. What kind of gameplan was he supposed to have? We ran the ball well. We more than doubled the Cincy output. We valued possession of the ball and just missed a TD to Slayton and did hit two downfield plays when we took the shot.
Poor clock management and risking the only QB you have left with runs. The sideline QB sweep saved the Bengals a timeout. Without that, another 30-40 seconds is run off of the clock.
... but we got out of there with a win and we’re in first place. Anyone who isn’t happy with that is nuts.
Lol . . . I was so stressed when the Bengals had the ball near the 50 that I stormed into the bedroom and couldn’t bare to watch the loss.
The. my GF yells out “Hey! Hey! Yes!” And I hear the announcer say “Giants ball.” I yell out from the bedroom. . . . “Did I just hear “Giants ball?!” She says “Get out here!” And I do.
I collapsed onto my back on the floor with my right hand on my heart.
Hopefully DJ's injury is not serious. This team continues to improve. The defense continues to make plays.
A definite change in culture this year is a major plus.
Just want to see continued improvement each week.
A win is a win in the NFL. No apologies...
GO GIANTS!!!!
don't know why Garrett is taking shit. What kind of gameplan was he supposed to have? We ran the ball well. We more than doubled the Cincy output. We valued possession of the ball and just missed a TD to Slayton and did hit two downfield plays when we took the shot.
Agree. Actually thought he called a good game. McCoy made some ugly throws on what were actually good calls. Also the OL was unable to open holes because Cindy knew McCoy could not beat them through the air. If its a hamstring Jones could be done for several weeks.
Even with Jones the offense wasn't exactly lighting it up
...Hope Jones is OK and can recover by next week. Hamstring injuries are problematic
There is no way he is back next week. If he misses only two games we are fortunate, and his hammy will not have fully healed at that point. It will impact the way defenses scheme us dramatically.
RE: Even with Jones the offense wasn't exactly lighting it up
They showed the opposite.
Fleming: should never start again at RT.
Slayton: totally disappeared.
Engram: retires the award for most reliably and consistently disappointing.
DJ: is what he is, but he can throw some. Without him the whole thing falls apart. Better hope the hammy heals overnight.
Refs: phony PI call giving the Bungles the ball on the Giants' one kept folks watching the ads for the last few minutes of an otherwise impossible-to-win from two scores behind game. How convenient.
don't know why Garrett is taking shit. What kind of gameplan was he supposed to have? We ran the ball well. We more than doubled the Cincy output. We valued possession of the ball and just missed a TD to Slayton and did hit two downfield plays when we took the shot.
Agree. Actually thought he called a good game. McCoy made some ugly throws on what were actually good calls. Also the OL was unable to open holes because Cindy knew McCoy could not beat them through the air. If its a hamstring Jones could be done for several weeks.
Agree about Garrett. Just because a play fails, doesn't mean it is a bad call.
to be excoriated for that Bengals TD drive. And it is not the 1st time he has done it. He never puts pressure on the QB late in a game or late in a half. He seems content to play a little prevent offense and allows the opposing team big chunks of yardage.
He makes a brilliant game plan, then doesn't get some addition pressure when he should.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
This was 100 percent on design. The problem was the LW penalty. If he doesn't make that, it cost about 40 seconds as long as that 15 they needed to get was in the field of play, which of course you keep shit inside. Dumb, dumb penalty from a guy who has mostly shown to be a smart player.
I took Giants -5.5 and I knew they weren't going to cover when they went up 9 looking at timeouts and exactly how much time they had left. Not unless we forced a turnover or sack. They have the skilly players to dink and dunk down field.
Gurantee LW gets fucking spit roasted in the film room.
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Jason Garrett was really upset over the Columbo firing.
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4:08 pm : link : reply
That’s the only explanation for some of the play calls. Then when he made a decent play call, Cam Fleming acted like Cam Fleming.
So you're thinking Jason Garret intentionally called a bad game? As revenge?
Sarcasm isn’t your friend. This isn’t the game thread... people aren’t that crazy here.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Game plan would have been different - hard to speculate on what Burrow would have done.
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That’s the only explanation for some of the play calls. Then when he made a decent play call, Cam Fleming acted like Cam Fleming.
Anyone who ever said they were better off with Colt McCoy was obviously out of their mind. I don’t know how Daniel Jones’ career will turn out, but it will definitely be better than Colt McCoy’s. Hopefully Danny can come back in 2 weeks.
When you lose to a team worse than you are, 3 things happened:
- penalties
- turnovers
- special teams
The Giants avoided one of them and barely held on.
McCoy did what he needed to do, hold on to the football. He will be much better with a week of 1st team snaps. He got too excited on that flats pass over Lewis head.
Yeah he panicked
That’s lack of playing in a real game in a few years.
McCoy did what he needed to do, hold on to the football. He will be much better with a week of 1st team snaps. He got too excited on that flats pass over Lewis head.
You’ve got more faith in him than I do. Hopefully you’re right.
Not long ago this game would have gone the other way.
Are Giants a good team? Not yet. But I don't think I'm kidding myself when I see this team headed in the right direction.
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We still have the leagues’s worst fans
This.
Don’t think so.
Just bummed about jones everything else was fine today as far as I’m concerned. D was terrific.
Sometimes live gives us these beautiful ironies.
He makes a brilliant game plan, then doesn't get some addition pressure when he should.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
Great post. I’m sure you said the same shit when the giants won ugly games like this during prior good seasons.
Some of you are just miserable. And definitely not watching other games.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Sheard also played well.
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to be excoriated for that Bengals TD drive. And it is not the 1st time he has done it. He never puts pressure on the QB late in a game or late in a half. He seems content to play a little prevent offense and allows the opposing team big chunks of yardage.
He makes a brilliant game plan, then doesn't get some addition pressure when he should.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
Was that a compliment???
Who*are* you?
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Good summary ... Dion Lewis was pretty good today too ... EE was EE, great plays and yet the fumble. Pray DJ is a fast healer but that hammy looked bad.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
I tend to agree. The TD drive was more about the penalties, one dumb and the other nonexistent. The defense was excellent except for like 2 or 3’plays outside of that drive.
Go ahead and wallow in your misery.
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a loss because of the refs gifting Cincy a TD.
Officiating in this league is so poor and inconsistent
I thought about you right when they made that call on Holmes
I sold out loud “Fatman is losing his shit right now”
In fairness I was losing my shit as well
One series after Tate had his arm held.
If you let one go, you let the other one go too.
I lost my shit!
I mean, I kinda penciled in next week as a loss anyways. Need him back for Cardinals.
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a loss because of the refs gifting Cincy a TD.
Officiating in this league is so poor and inconsistent
I thought about you right when they made that call on Holmes
I sold out loud “Fatman is losing his shit right now”
In fairness I was losing my shit as well
One series after Tate had his arm held.
If you let one go, you let the other one go too.
I lost my shit!
Not to mention Allen having time to find Higgins because of blatant holding.
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are not a good football team. Tons of mistakes and inexplicable play calling. Way too much running on first down after Jones was hurt.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Good summary ... Dion Lewis was pretty good today too ... EE was EE, great plays and yet the fumble. Pray DJ is a fast healer but that hammy looked bad.
Don’t forget Logan Ryan
I tend to agree. The TD drive was more about the penalties, one dumb and the other nonexistent. The defense was excellent except for like 2 or 3’plays outside of that drive.
Look, after another case of special teams coverage, Graham's D saved the game. That's the story.
Hope Jones is OK and can recover by next week. Hamstring injuries are problematic
Inconsistent as hell
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I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
I tend to agree. The TD drive was more about the penalties, one dumb and the other nonexistent. The defense was excellent except for like 2 or 3’plays outside of that drive.
I am certain about it. He should have had blitzes a little more often. 3 man rushes do not cut it when the other team needs to throw the ball. The DBs played well enough that he should have been sending more people to get Allen moving.
The rest of the game was great. But he just doesn't pressure the QB late in games.
I agree that LW's penalty was beyond stupid and the Holmes one was just blown - when both announcers are dumbfounded and can not find where the penalty is, it was not a penalty.
Not long ago this game would have gone the other way.
Are Giants a good team? Not yet. But I don't think I'm kidding myself when I see this team headed in the right direction.
^ This...
I said something similar on the "Statement Win" thread...
Improvement starts with beating the crappy teams. However, I would not get too excited about barely eking out a win against a lousy team that had the backup for the entire game, not just the 4th qtr.
Lol....yep, I think it’s time Joe pays these guys a visit this week for sure.
CODY CORE....HURRY BACK!
I never liked hiring Garrett and he is doing nothing to make me reconsider.
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are not a good football team. Tons of mistakes and inexplicable play calling. Way too much running on first down after Jones was hurt.
KO for a TD.
Fumble by Engram.
Several near INTs by Alexander.
McCoy missing Lewis for a wide open TD.
McCoy running wide when all we should have down was run the ball into the line three times to force the Bengals to use another TO.
Three penalties by Fleming.
Dropped TD pass by Slayton.
Big PR right at the end of the game that put the Bengals at midfield.
Gallman, the OL, Shepard, and Jones played well. On defense, Williams, Lawrence, Tomlinson, Brown, Bradberry, Peppers, and Lalos were stand outs. Gano was also terrific as usual.
But we were lucky. Burrow would have killed us today. Allen clearly had no timing with his WRs.
Good summary ... Dion Lewis was pretty good today too ... EE was EE, great plays and yet the fumble. Pray DJ is a fast healer but that hammy looked bad.
Don’t forget Logan Ryan
Agreed. He played extremely well.
Poor clock management and risking the only QB you have left with runs. The sideline QB sweep saved the Bengals a timeout. Without that, another 30-40 seconds is run off of the clock.
Lol . . . I was so stressed when the Bengals had the ball near the 50 that I stormed into the bedroom and couldn’t bare to watch the loss.
The. my GF yells out “Hey! Hey! Yes!” And I hear the announcer say “Giants ball.” I yell out from the bedroom. . . . “Did I just hear “Giants ball?!” She says “Get out here!” And I do.
I collapsed onto my back on the floor with my right hand on my heart.
“Thank God!”
She says: “So, I can talk to you now?”
“Yes.”
Lol
A definite change in culture this year is a major plus.
Just want to see continued improvement each week.
A win is a win in the NFL. No apologies...
GO GIANTS!!!!
Hamstring apparently. We'll know more later.
Agree. Actually thought he called a good game. McCoy made some ugly throws on what were actually good calls. Also the OL was unable to open holes because Cindy knew McCoy could not beat them through the air. If its a hamstring Jones could be done for several weeks.
Fleming: should never start again at RT.
Slayton: totally disappeared.
Engram: retires the award for most reliably and consistently disappointing.
DJ: is what he is, but he can throw some. Without him the whole thing falls apart. Better hope the hammy heals overnight.
Refs: phony PI call giving the Bungles the ball on the Giants' one kept folks watching the ads for the last few minutes of an otherwise impossible-to-win from two scores behind game. How convenient.
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don't know why Garrett is taking shit. What kind of gameplan was he supposed to have? We ran the ball well. We more than doubled the Cincy output. We valued possession of the ball and just missed a TD to Slayton and did hit two downfield plays when we took the shot.
Agree. Actually thought he called a good game. McCoy made some ugly throws on what were actually good calls. Also the OL was unable to open holes because Cindy knew McCoy could not beat them through the air. If its a hamstring Jones could be done for several weeks.
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to be excoriated for that Bengals TD drive. And it is not the 1st time he has done it. He never puts pressure on the QB late in a game or late in a half. He seems content to play a little prevent offense and allows the opposing team big chunks of yardage.
He makes a brilliant game plan, then doesn't get some addition pressure when he should.
I don't know about this. His D created three turnovers and created the game ending play.
Sorry, I think Graham continues to delivery some quality play from his D.
This was 100 percent on design. The problem was the LW penalty. If he doesn't make that, it cost about 40 seconds as long as that 15 they needed to get was in the field of play, which of course you keep shit inside. Dumb, dumb penalty from a guy who has mostly shown to be a smart player.
I took Giants -5.5 and I knew they weren't going to cover when they went up 9 looking at timeouts and exactly how much time they had left. Not unless we forced a turnover or sack. They have the skilly players to dink and dunk down field.
Gurantee LW gets fucking spit roasted in the film room.