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Daniel Jones Update Per NFL.com

Giants_West : 11/29/2020 5:00 pm
Looks like he will undergo an MRI on Monday but hasn't been ruled out for returning by next week.
Giants QB Daniel Jones (hamstring)... - ( New Window )
Obviously if he's really hurt  
Oscar : 11/29/2020 5:02 pm : link
Season is over. Could easily go 0 for the next 4 with him, it's guaranteed without him.
RE: Obviously if he's really hurt  
BestFeature : 11/29/2020 5:03 pm : link
In comment 15059985 Oscar said:
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Season is over. Could easily go 0 for the next 4 with him, it's guaranteed without him.


I'd be shocked if they go 0-4 with him healthy. The defense has been stellar and he's been heating up.
No way he's back next week  
JohnG in Albany : 11/29/2020 5:05 pm : link
btw, I have zero medical knowledge.

But I do have some experience with hamstrings.

They suck.
Jones is looking really good to me. Slayton could have caught that  
Victor in CT : 11/29/2020 5:06 pm : link
ball. Engram fumble was a killer.

THey aint going 0-4 WITH Jones. THey just might without him.
Apparently medical staff said he could go back in  
nygiants16 : 11/29/2020 5:07 pm : link
but he didnt want to hurt the team because he didnt trust it
RE: No way he's back next week  
gary_from_chester : 11/29/2020 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15059994 JohnG in Albany said:
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btw, I have zero medical knowledge.

But I do have some experience with hamstrings.

They suck.


Agree. I would be shocked if he plays in the next 2 games.
RE: Apparently medical staff said he could go back in  
Saquads26 : 11/29/2020 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15059998 nygiants16 said:
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but he didnt want to hurt the team because he didnt trust it


Well he did go back in, and couldn’t apply any pressure on it. Did you watch?
He may miss a game, but the real question is how effective is  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/29/2020 5:09 pm : link
he without the added element of his mobility. Going to be a pure pocket passer. Guess it's good for his development, but not for our chances of winning the East.
How Could He Go Back In?  
Samiam : 11/29/2020 5:19 pm : link
Looked like he was less mobile than Eli was at the end. And, looked like he couldn’t plant his foot to get any zip on the ball. If the medical people said he could go back in, something is very wrong.
RE: How Could He Go Back In?  
Saquads26 : 11/29/2020 5:20 pm : link
In comment 15060029 Samiam said:
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Looked like he was less mobile than Eli was at the end. And, looked like he couldn’t plant his foot to get any zip on the ball. If the medical people said he could go back in, something is very wrong.


Yeah I’d love to see that “source” because there’s no way it’s true
RE: No way he's back next week  
mfsd : 11/29/2020 5:23 pm : link
In comment 15059994 JohnG in Albany said:
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btw, I have zero medical knowledge.

But I do have some experience with hamstrings.

They suck.


Hammies suck, for sure. Whether or not Jones can play, it’s probably the kind of thing that won’t really heal until the offseason for him
RE: RE: How Could He Go Back In?  
nygiants16 : 11/29/2020 5:28 pm : link
In comment 15060037 Saquads26 said:
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In comment 15060029 Samiam said:


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Looked like he was less mobile than Eli was at the end. And, looked like he couldn’t plant his foot to get any zip on the ball. If the medical people said he could go back in, something is very wrong.



Yeah I’d love to see that “source” because there’s no way it’s true


Ralph Vacchiano
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Joe Judge on QB Daniel Jones' hamstring injury: "We’ll take a look and see what it is. He’s got to see the doctors."

Judge said the trainers cleared Jones to go back into the game. He also said Jones will have an MRI tomorrow
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nygiants16 : 11/29/2020 5:29 pm : link

Ralph Vacchiano
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Giants QB Daniel Jones on his hamstring injury: "Didn’t feel like I could get a lot on it really or do what I needed to do to be effective and move the ball and throw it accurately."
There is a good chance he could play next week...  
EricJ : 11/29/2020 5:30 pm : link
but with limited mobility. Just running the offense from the pocket without attempting RPOs, etc.

While every hamstring injury is different, I have had my share. With best in class treatment from a professional sports organization, I think it is highly probably that he could play in a limited capacity next week.



He was walking around on the sideline, so I doubt he misses more than  
Ira : 11/29/2020 5:33 pm : link
a week.
RE: There is a good chance he could play next week...  
ColHowPepper : 11/29/2020 5:35 pm : link
In comment 15060064 EricJ said:
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but with limited mobility. Just running the offense from the pocket without attempting RPOs, etc.

While every hamstring injury is different, I have had my share. With best in class treatment from a professional sports organization, I think it is highly probably that he could play in a limited capacity next week.
Really doubt this, and Vacchiano (and JJ) are spinning a nice tune.

It was a serious injury, that might have been aggravated when they put him back in. I say he misses two games, minimum, and even if back in week 15, he will not be the threat he is when healthy and def coordinators will plan accordingly to bottle up the run.
The good thing is ...  
short lease : 11/29/2020 5:37 pm : link

it is a hamstring and not an ACL. The bad thing is those hamstring injuries can linger ...

What the hell was he doing running? That looked like a design play to me. Why? Gallman was doing fine.


Remember when Fassel let Sehorn return punts? Good bye Sehorn - for that season.
Its over  
stoneman : 11/29/2020 5:41 pm : link

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RE: The good thing is ...  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/29/2020 5:45 pm : link
In comment 15060093 short lease said:
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it is a hamstring and not an ACL. The bad thing is those hamstring injuries can linger ...

What the hell was he doing running? That looked like a design play to me. Why? Gallman was doing fine.


Remember when Fassel let Sehorn return punts? Good bye Sehorn - for that season.

That’s a completely out of left field comparison. Sehorn never returned kicks. Jones runs all the time.

It may have escaped your notice but Jones is this team’s leading rusher.
Can’t get mad at the run  
UConn4523 : 11/29/2020 5:47 pm : link
this is who he is and how he needs to be right now. An injury can happen on any run play.

Hopefully it’s a mild to moderate strain.
So we share trainers with the  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/29/2020 5:47 pm : link
Mets?
How many "I've pulled my hamstring and it's horrible"  
Everyone Relax : 11/29/2020 5:53 pm : link
anecdotes are we going to get this week? We aren't world class athletes with world class doctors at our disposal. Not apples to apples.
RE: Can’t get mad at the run  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/29/2020 5:56 pm : link
In comment 15060113 UConn4523 said:
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this is who he is and how he needs to be right now. An injury can happen on any run play.

Hopefully it’s a mild to moderate strain.


Unfortunately, that KR TD, was a catalyst for a lot of bad stuff today. Doubt we see him running as much if we don't give that up. Crazy he pulled his hamstring on that one though, just didn't seem like the type of play for it to happen. Maybe it was tweaked on a prior play. Sometimes there could be a strain and then putting a lot of power pressure on it can cause it to tear,that would be my best guess.
what the trainers actually said was  
markky : 11/29/2020 6:02 pm : link
"sure, put him back in. he can't do any worse (than McCoy)".
Yeah he may not have ran much  
UConn4523 : 11/29/2020 6:08 pm : link
but the overall point is he’s going to be running this year so something like this was likely to happen. It is what it is.

I’d be pissed if it was a designed run up 3 scores with a 5 minutes left in the game, but this isn’t something I’m going to play the hindsight game with since he’s running 7-10 times per game.
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christian : 11/29/2020 6:14 pm : link
Daniel Jones’s legs are a vital part of this offense.

He’s well on his way to being a good NFL quarterback, but you take his legs away with this line and skill group right now, and the offensive situation would be ugly.

He’s got to run the ball. It’s shame he pulled his hamstring, but that’s no reason to stop running him or to second guess the approach.
Easier to run  
Carl in CT : 11/29/2020 6:20 pm : link
Than walk.
Let's see..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/29/2020 6:21 pm : link
what the MRI says. He can get treatment this wee and they can wrap it tight. It will be uncomfortable and his mobility will be compromised, but if he can throw the ball, that will be the key to whether or not he'll be able to play. Not being able to drive the ball will be a deciding factor on if he can play or not
Wonder who they’ll pick up  
GiantMike92 : 11/29/2020 6:24 pm : link
Perhaps Cooper Rush, I know he hooked up with the Cowboys again earlier in the season but don’t think he’s with them now.
Get him into a hyperbaric chamber,  
MOOPS : 11/29/2020 6:32 pm : link
stat.
RE: ...  
Go Terps : 11/29/2020 6:42 pm : link
In comment 15060162 christian said:
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Daniel Jones’s legs are a vital part of this offense.

He’s well on his way to being a good NFL quarterback, but you take his legs away with this line and skill group right now, and the offensive situation would be ugly.

He’s got to run the ball. It’s shame he pulled his hamstring, but that’s no reason to stop running him or to second guess the approach.


Yup. The lesson here is we need two mobile backup quarterbacks. That should be an off-season priority.
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christian : 11/29/2020 6:45 pm : link
^ Absolutely. The backup must be able to do all the things the starter can do (albeit to a lesser degree).
Seattle’s D has been less than stellar this year and  
Big Blue '56 : 11/29/2020 7:08 pm : link
that’s being kind..It’s not as if McCoy is incapable of moving the team..My major concern as it would be if DJ was in there, is Russell Wilson and that O
PEMF machine will  
xman : 11/29/2020 9:13 pm : link
speed the hamstring healing
RE: There is a good chance he could play next week...  
Matt M. : 11/29/2020 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15060064 EricJ said:
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but with limited mobility. Just running the offense from the pocket without attempting RPOs, etc.

While every hamstring injury is different, I have had my share. With best in class treatment from a professional sports organization, I think it is highly probably that he could play in a limited capacity next week.


The hamstring isn't about limited mobility. If he injured his hamstring, even a minor injury, it needs to completely heal. With a hamstring injury, as you saw, he can't push off when throwing and he can't fully extend or open up the leg. That means any kind of movement will be limited, not just his ability to run. It also means he is highly likely to further injure the leg. I would be shocked if he played next week. Multiple weeks out, even with a minor injury, is not out of the question.
If we are being honest, even with Jones  
Matt M. : 11/29/2020 9:19 pm : link
next week was a long shot. But, even now, I don't find the odds much different. The D would have to play a perfect game to have a shot. Arizona, right now, I see as winnable, even without Jones if we run the ball and play strong D.
Honestly, what are realistic options for a backup QB next week?  
Matt M. : 11/29/2020 9:33 pm : link
Is Thorson our only real option? If a player is on another team's roster or practice squad, are they eligible for next week if they are picked up with the 6 days negative COVID requirement? OR does that 6 days start on the new team's roster, regardless of whether they were on a roster previously?
It's amazing  
Chocco : 11/29/2020 9:46 pm : link
How everyone knows what his prognosis is already. Breathe, relax, the fact that Jones was walking on the sidelines was a good sign, but you won't have any idea how this will go until maybe Tues or Wed. earliest
It's amazing  
Chocco : 11/29/2020 9:47 pm : link
How everyone knows what his prognosis is already. Breathe, relax, the fact that Jones was walking on the sidelines was a good sign, but you won't have any idea how this will go until maybe Tues or Wed. earliest
RE: RE: The good thing is ...  
short lease : 11/30/2020 4:02 am : link
In comment 15060108 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 15060093 short lease said:


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it is a hamstring and not an ACL. The bad thing is those hamstring injuries can linger ...

What the hell was he doing running? That looked like a design play to me. Why? Gallman was doing fine.


Remember when Fassel let Sehorn return punts? Good bye Sehorn - for that season.


That’s a completely out of left field comparison. Sehorn never returned kicks. Jones runs all the time.

It may have escaped your notice but Jones is this team’s leading rusher.


I don't care what Jones is - he shouldn't be. If they keep running him by design he will miss games.
Other people on the team can run the ball.
RE: Honestly, what are realistic options for a backup QB next week?  
section125 : 11/30/2020 7:22 am : link
In comment 15060538 Matt M. said:
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Is Thorson our only real option? If a player is on another team's roster or practice squad, are they eligible for next week if they are picked up with the 6 days negative COVID requirement? OR does that 6 days start on the new team's roster, regardless of whether they were on a roster previously?


How in the hell is a PS player from another team going to learn this offense in 6 days while going through COVID protocols?
Get real. McCoy probably starts, Thorson as backup unless Jones is only partial injured.
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