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Is Gallman on a “pitch count”?

jpkmets : 11/29/2020 6:13 pm
Every game Alfred Morris is playing at least two full drives. It’s as if Judge has a RB rotation or at least has a max on plays he’ll allow Gallman to handle.

I obviously realize the RB will come out for a play or couple of plays here and there. But in this case, it’s Morris for entire drives. That was a particularly bad idea today, IMO- especially once Jones was out.

I don’t think I’ve heard Judge address this so far. Has anyone heard whether there is an RB rotation here?
We did this with Barkley  
UConn4523 : 11/29/2020 6:15 pm : link
so we are going to do it with Gallman. He also took a few shots today. But he had 27 touches, he got plenty of burn today.
Normal for any team/any player at rb to be rotates  
fanoftheteam : 11/29/2020 6:16 pm : link
Gallman had like 25 carries today I think. Thats workhorse status by NFL standards.
It didn't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/29/2020 6:17 pm : link
seem to be a problem when Morris got touches the past few games.

I'm thinking this is a results-based rant
RE: We did this with Barkley  
jpkmets : 11/29/2020 6:18 pm : link
In comment 15060165 UConn4523 said:
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so we are going to do it with Gallman. He also took a few shots today. But he had 27 touches, he got plenty of burn today.


No question he had a lot of work today. Just don’t quite know why you take him out for drives at a time - whether they are 3 or 10 plays. Some weeks, that doesn’t seem wisest especially with no real passing game under McCoy.

Hopefully McCoy benefits a lot from the week of reps. I’m not sure what his ceiling is. I don’t know much about his play. Hopefully he can hold the fort.
RE: It didn't..  
jpkmets : 11/29/2020 6:20 pm : link
In comment 15060167 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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seem to be a problem when Morris got touches the past few games.

I'm thinking this is a results-based rant


Actually, I had the same question last week in the IGT. Was happy that Morris played well. But, overall, he is a lot slower to get going than Gallman right now. Having a slow developing runner in for large chunks of the game with no credible passing game is a bad idea, IMO. I’ve definitely been consistently baffled by it.

But my main question is whether Banks or anyone has said if they know the plan here. Is it always going to be at least one full series er half for Morris?
He had 24 carries today  
widmerseyebrow : 11/29/2020 6:22 pm : link
Before that his game high carries in his career was 18.

This is an annual trend on BBI where everyone wants to give the best running back all 30-40 carries. It doesn't work that way. Few NFL running backs can take that kind of pounding over an entire season, and if they do their careers are short.

In fact, there's evidence that running backs that go over 300 carries in a season are usually less effective the following season. That's less than 19 carries a game.
RE: Normal for any team/any player at rb to be rotates  
jpkmets : 11/29/2020 6:22 pm : link
In comment 15060166 fanoftheteam said:
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Gallman had like 25 carries today I think. Thats workhorse status by NFL standards.


Really? Is it that common for starting RB’s to sit for multiple full drives a game? Just haven’t noticed that being a frequent thing in the NFL.
RE: It didn't..  
Zeke's Alibi : 11/29/2020 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15060167 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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seem to be a problem when Morris got touches the past few games.

I'm thinking this is a results-based rant


When there are other options out there, they create enough space for Morris to get going. When we don't he can't use his power with no momentum. Wonder if you see his carries cut with no DJ after watching film.
RE: He had 24 carries today  
jpkmets : 11/29/2020 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15060177 widmerseyebrow said:
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Before that his game high carries in his career was 18.

This is an annual trend on BBI where everyone wants to give the best running back all 30-40 carries. It doesn't work that way. Few NFL running backs can take that kind of pounding over an entire season, and if they do their careers are short.

In fact, there's evidence that running backs that go over 300 carries in a season are usually less effective the following season. That's less than 19 carries a game.


That’s not what I’m trying to advocate. My point is that consigning entire possessions to the backup tailback is something I haven’t seen much of. I’m far more familiar with different runners going in during the course of the same drive.

Just have been struck by it as I haven’t seen much of it, and definitely don’t like having designated Morris drives this year.
I think the better question is why they tried to run Morris wide?  
Spider56 : 11/29/2020 6:25 pm : link
He’s done well the past few weeks between the tackles and he’s lost the step to get outside ...
RE: RE: He had 24 carries today  
Jim in Fairfax : 11/29/2020 6:35 pm : link
In comment 15060187 jpkmets said:
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In comment 15060177 widmerseyebrow said:


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Before that his game high carries in his career was 18.

This is an annual trend on BBI where everyone wants to give the best running back all 30-40 carries. It doesn't work that way. Few NFL running backs can take that kind of pounding over an entire season, and if they do their careers are short.

In fact, there's evidence that running backs that go over 300 carries in a season are usually less effective the following season. That's less than 19 carries a game.



That’s not what I’m trying to advocate. My point is that consigning entire possessions to the backup tailback is something I haven’t seen much of. I’m far more familiar with different runners going in during the course of the same drive.

Just have been struck by it as I haven’t seen much of it, and definitely don’t like having designated Morris drives this year.

Some RBs need to get into a groove and don’t do well with sproradic 1 off carries.
Morris  
stretch234 : 11/29/2020 6:57 pm : link
Coming into this game Morris had 25 carries for 129 yds. Over 5 yards per carry. That is why he is/was being used. He was effective
RE: RE: RE: He had 24 carries today  
jpkmets : 11/29/2020 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15060212 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 15060187 jpkmets said:


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In comment 15060177 widmerseyebrow said:


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Before that his game high carries in his career was 18.

This is an annual trend on BBI where everyone wants to give the best running back all 30-40 carries. It doesn't work that way. Few NFL running backs can take that kind of pounding over an entire season, and if they do their careers are short.

In fact, there's evidence that running backs that go over 300 carries in a season are usually less effective the following season. That's less than 19 carries a game.



That’s not what I’m trying to advocate. My point is that consigning entire possessions to the backup tailback is something I haven’t seen much of. I’m far more familiar with different runners going in during the course of the same drive.

Just have been struck by it as I haven’t seen much of it, and definitely don’t like having designated Morris drives this year.


Some RBs need to get into a groove and don’t do well with sproradic 1 off carries.


That’s a good point that I hadn’t considered. Makes sense. Thanks!
Judge  
Giant John : 11/30/2020 6:54 am : link
Isn’t going to wear out our RB’s one at a time.
Most teams give their 1st RB one series off  
Section331 : 11/30/2020 9:30 am : link
each half. Morris is a solid backup who knows how to create yardage. Add to it that Gallman isn't the biggest guy, he's going to need a break now and then.
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