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| New York Giants quarterback Daniel Jones suffered a hamstring injury in the third quarter of Sunday's 19-17 victory over the Cincinnati Bengals that could force him to miss some time. A source told ESPN the initial belief is that it's a "pretty bad" hamstring injury. More tests are scheduled Monday to determine the full extent of the injury. |
Jones zoom was especially mind numbing. Pat Leonard asked him a question at one point that I do not know how Jones didn’t just respond with “how big a moron are you”
Why are you trying to prove something you can not prove and you know is wrong. The trainers may have an idea of the severity, but they won't know until the MRI is reviewed. Raanan knows nothing. His source is not from the Giants. Maybe he knows a MD....
This story seems pretty reasonable to me. Ranaan heard the injury - initially - seems pretty bad. But medical tests still need to be performed.
You are acting like Ranaan is Woodward speaking with Mark Felt to get information on the Watergate investigation.
It's an injury.
The issue is giving credence to reports that aren't based on merit. Raanan can't wait for an MRI - so he spouts off what he thinks is going to happen.
A player isn't going to a reporter and telling them something the trainer is saying on the sidelines. Certainly not before anything is even known. When people talk about creating "realities", it would be nice if they knew what happens in interactions with the media.
Come on now...
A player could have overheard the trainer's initial evaluation of Jones's injury as "pretty bad" and shared that info when a reporter asked.
A teammate could have also gotten a self-evaluation from Jones, since players who have had hamstring injuries before know the difference between mild and pretty bad, and then that player whos spoke to Jones could have shared that info with Raanan or another reporter.
That kind of stuff happens all the time.
I'm not saying that this is what DID happen, just that it's certainly within the realm of possibility and shouldn't be automatically dissmissed simply because it's bad news.
You on the other hand are assuming that Raanan has no inside info and that his report is NOT based on merit, when you have no evidence that this is the case.
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Why are you trying to prove something you can not prove and you know is wrong. The trainers may have an idea of the severity, but they won't know until the MRI is reviewed. Raanan knows nothing. His source is not from the Giants. Maybe he knows a MD....
This story seems pretty reasonable to me. Ranaan heard the injury - initially - seems pretty bad. But medical tests still need to be performed.
You are acting like Ranaan is Woodward speaking with Mark Felt to get information on the Watergate investigation.
It's an injury.
If it was so bad, he'd have had it iced up on the bench. It could be bad, whatever that means. He could miss three weeks or he could play next week. My money would be on out for two weeks.
But the fact remains you are arguing about something that nobody but the Giants know about. You are basically defending a total guess by a reporter whose source could be a former trainer or a MD he knows. And I do not believe there are any reporters in the locker rooms this season.
If it was so bad, he'd have had it iced up on the bench. It could be bad, whatever that means. He could miss three weeks or he could play next week. My money would be on out for two weeks.
But the fact remains you are arguing about something that nobody but the Giants know about. You are basically defending a total guess by a reporter whose source could be a former trainer or a MD he knows. And I do not believe there are any reporters in the locker rooms this season.
Let me tell you how I read this.
Sounds like there is some speculation that Jones could have a bad injury. But the medical tests will confirm.
On the other hand, Judge is optimistic. Yet he has no information other than guessing how Jones might feel. But he won't know for sure until the tests are performed.
All that is in the story.
Seemed straightforward and innocuous to me. So I'm know waiting to hear the results tomorrow.
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Why are you trying to prove something you can not prove and you know is wrong. The trainers may have an idea of the severity, but they won't know until the MRI is reviewed. Raanan knows nothing. His source is not from the Giants. Maybe he knows a MD....
This story seems pretty reasonable to me. Ranaan heard the injury - initially - seems pretty bad. But medical tests still need to be performed.
You are acting like Ranaan is Woodward speaking with Mark Felt to get information on the Watergate investigation.
It's an injury.
If it was so bad, he'd have had it iced up on the bench. It could be bad, whatever that means. He could miss three weeks or he could play next week. My money would be on out for two weeks.
But the fact remains you are arguing about something that nobody but the Giants know about. You are basically defending a total guess by a reporter whose source could be a former trainer or a MD he knows. And I do not believe there are any reporters in the locker rooms this season.
You're wasting your time with him section.
Figured you would like him. You’re like two peas in a pod...awful posters.
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From the site for constantly reporting horse shit and basically lying in his articles? Does he need to be here?
Figured you would like him. You’re like two peas in a pod...awful posters.
Wanna try that again? The irony is hilarious.
have iced his hammy on the sideline?
As an aside, having suffered a few hamstrings injuries of varying degrees, if it was as bad as ESPN is claiming, Jones not only wouldn't have even been able to consider playing, he wasn't walking off the field on his own.
Just figured I'd share.
Jones Injury5 - ( New Window )
Just figured I'd share. Jones Injury5 - ( New Window )
Actually Hoping would be a better term than hopeful. My bad
With all that said, next week really isn’t a game we need to win. It would be nice if we did, but Cleveland, Arizona, and Dallas are the gamete to get us to seven wins.
he has made up shit. He went on his unpopular podcast and said the team was demoralized when Eli was brought back.
We do know that the kid is as aforementioned tough and also more importantly only 23. His body will heal much more quickly than a 33 year old QB. Wouldn't be surprised if he's back next week so regardless of what ESPN has to say i'm pretty optimistic about DJ returning sooner rather than later.
Him walking around doesn’t mean he’ll be able to play an NFL game in two weeks.
Yeh I love these people that say he wouldn’t be able to play. Maybe DJ is just tougher than you. I have had all 3 grades and I’ll tell you right now, it’s at least at 2, and possibly a 3. 1 or 2 even, you wouldn’t see the complete limitation he showed out there. My money is on a 2 though, we shall see today.
Training staff, not medical.
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Josh Mccown played a half of playoff football with his hamstring torn off the bone. Getting on the field or hanging on the sideline doesn’t preclude a serious injury.
Yeh I love these people that say he wouldn’t be able to play. Maybe DJ is just tougher than you. I have had all 3 grades and I’ll tell you right now, it’s at least at 2, and possibly a 3. 1 or 2 even, you wouldn’t see the complete limitation he showed out there. My money is on a 2 though, we shall see today.
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Josh Mccown played a half of playoff football with his hamstring torn off the bone. Getting on the field or hanging on the sideline doesn’t preclude a serious injury.
Yeh I love these people that say he wouldn’t be able to play. Maybe DJ is just tougher than you. I have had all 3 grades and I’ll tell you right now, it’s at least at 2, and possibly a 3. 1 or 2 even, you wouldn’t see the complete limitation he showed out there. My money is on a 2 though, we shall see today.
Zeke - if you've have different grades of hamstring injuries, you know it isn't about toughness. The guys that try to tough out a slight pull usually end up with the injury lingering for a long time and/or getting much worse. A hamstring injury, even a slight one, is severely limiting. The fact that it's his right leg, which is where he pushes off from to throw is a big deal, even putting aside his probable inability to run.
You aren't seeing the limitation throwing the ball that he showed with a 1. No way. You can still throw the ball with a 1, it would hurt, but it's doable. He couldn't even get to the point where he could try it and we know DJ is tough as dirt. If it was just a 1, he could probably tough it out as long as he didn't try to run and we had an offensive line that could really protect in pass game. Even then though, there would be times where you just can't control, wouldn't be able to fight through getting sacked. Instincts take over and then a bigger injury. This sucks. Also felt like I was going to win 6k on them winning East, just not sure how it happens now.