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Resigning Gallman next year

JINTin Adirondacks : 11/29/2020 9:03 pm
Does he stay? and what's it going to take $ ?
Oh no.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/29/2020 9:13 pm : link
Here we go again. This was bantered about during the week. Ridiculous projections he would get $7 million per year. Of course you sign him. 2 years maybe $5.5 million would probably do it. Even $6 million for 2 yrs is worth it. He knows the system, is excelling in it and always seems to get positive yardage. No guaranty Barkley will regain his old form or can handle a full workload. You still need a viable backup.
Absolutely not  
AcesUp : 11/29/2020 9:18 pm : link
Draft somebody on Day 3 to compete with what we have.
As  
AcidTest : 11/29/2020 9:25 pm : link
always, it depends on the money. Gallman is a shifty, tough, runner, but he lacks breakaway speed.
If they can get a team friendly deal  
Breeze_94 : 11/29/2020 9:41 pm : link
then I'm all for it. Gallmans market likely won't be great since the entire league is in a tough cap spot.
Yeah like drafting a rb  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/29/2020 9:50 pm : link
Makes sense with all our needs. Give me a break. You stick with what works.
I say yes  
rocco8112 : 11/29/2020 10:11 pm : link
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RE: Yeah like drafting a rb  
Saquads26 : 11/29/2020 10:15 pm : link
In comment 15060557 redwhiteandbigblue said:
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Makes sense with all our needs. Give me a break. You stick with what works.


Lol so paying him when we have other needs makes sense either?
Saquad  
redwhiteandbigblue : 11/29/2020 10:19 pm : link
Stick it up your ass. You tried the same bullshit in last week's post. I know, I know you are the expert. Douche.
Not if Barkley is ready to  
kes722 : 11/29/2020 11:36 pm : link
Start week 1 next year
Yes I would try to sign him  
Keyser : 11/30/2020 12:23 am : link
I like him as a short yardage back as well as a competent change of pace back, backup if Saquon is injured, and he can catch the ball.

The main thing that makes me want to resign him is his ability in short yardage situations, especially at the goal line. He finds a crease, hits it hard and fast, can push the pile, gets yardage after contact, and can jump/elevate if need be to get into the end zone. He seems to have had a nose for the end zone these past few weeks.
I would  
adamg : 11/30/2020 3:39 am : link
No more Paul Perkins and Andre Williams please.
RE: Not if Barkley is ready to  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/30/2020 5:12 am : link
kes722 said:
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Start week 1 next year.
Not sure how you would know in March whether Barkley will be 100% by September. Crystal ball? Ouija board? Tarot cards?

Gallman is a solid #2 back. I doubt anyone is going to pay him much more than he’s worth to the Giants. So unless the price is starter money, I think you try to keep him.
Comes down to the money required  
BelieveJJ : 11/30/2020 5:34 am : link
and whether or not Wayne wants to remain a Giant. But sure, he's proven himself more than a bit this year and earns tough YAC. Him or Freeman, for sure. Enough of Lewis and Morris.
In all likelihood he isn’t worth resigning  
Tuckrule : 11/30/2020 7:27 am : link
Look at the numbers. Barkley dominates the touches. Is gallman worth 2.5-3 million per year? Yes he is for sure and I believe a team will sign him to a cheap deal to be a starter. That same deal to backup saquon isn’t a smart financial decision. I’m one of the bigger Wayne gallman supporters. I called him he draft pick when it was made and I had post after post about him being a featured back once saquon went down. Truth be told, he has major value just not to us IMO.
Gallman is easily signed  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 7:36 am : link
or just as easily replaced.

I'd rather have him, he runs with a nice aggression.
i'd sign him. he plays hard and probably gives us  
markky : 11/30/2020 7:40 am : link
a couple of extra first down per game that we wouldn't get with our other backups.

regarding Barkley's health, why would we think he's going to make it through a 16 game season after the last two years? we need a better than average backup.
Winning teams  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/30/2020 7:44 am : link
Don’t give back up runningbacks a second contract. You either get a guy late in the draft of find someone off the street. The RB position is replaceable.
You can pay him good backup money  
SLIM_ : 11/30/2020 7:56 am : link
nothing more.

We are going to be a run-first play action team. With Galman you can give him 10-12 carries and Barkley 15-18. That is a nice mix that would keep both fresh.
If I were Gallman, I'd think seriously about  
Section331 : 11/30/2020 9:28 am : link
moving on. With Saquon back, how many touches will he get? He'll probably want to go somewhere where he has a chance to be the featured back.

And, to be honest, the Giants are probably better off going with a cheaper alternative for 2nd RB.
I would. Low end FA running backs are cheap  
rasbutant : 11/30/2020 9:43 am : link
Looking at what guys recently signed for, i think he can expect anywhere from 1.5 - 3 mil per year, and most of those contract are for 2 years.

Mark Ingram only got 5mil/yr for 3yrs coming off a great season with NO to go to Baltimore. No way Gallman comes close to that.

Even at 2yr 6mil, so 3mil/yr, that's nothing on the cap.

Kind of shows how bad the Jon Stewart contract was, (2yr 6.8mil), but again it didn't really hurt the cap situation.
RE: If I were Gallman, I'd think seriously about  
JINTin Adirondacks : 11/30/2020 11:32 am : link
In comment 15060920 Section331 said:
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moving on. With Saquon back, how many touches will he get? He'll probably want to go somewhere where he has a chance to be the featured back.

And, to be honest, the Giants are probably better off going with a cheaper alternative for2nd RB.
Agreed he may not to sign here.
Did..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2020 11:34 am : link
somebody really try to say Gallman is in line for a $7M contract??
Wouldn't be smart to keep him?  
GManinDC : 11/30/2020 11:50 am : link
Drafted vet guy. Works hard. Why go chase a new shiny toy? Really amazing what people think when making personnel decisions.

RB's are easy to replace??. How did that go the years in between Bradshaw and Barkley?
RE: Wouldn't be smart to keep him?  
Britt in VA : 11/30/2020 11:55 am : link
In comment 15061242 GManinDC said:
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Drafted vet guy. Works hard. Why go chase a new shiny toy? Really amazing what people think when making personnel decisions.

RB's are easy to replace??. How did that go the years in between Bradshaw and Barkley?


People never learn. They chase people out of town, but have no real solution on what happens next.
If he is going to get...  
Chris in Philly : 11/30/2020 12:03 pm : link
starter money someplace, than good luck to him. If he's still cheap, then welcome back.
Aboslutely, unless his is unrealistic in his money demands  
PatersonPlank : 11/30/2020 12:04 pm : link
and wants starter money. I really like the kid as a quality backup to Saquon.
RE: RE: Wouldn't be smart to keep him?  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 12:09 pm : link
In comment 15061253 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 15061242 GManinDC said:


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Drafted vet guy. Works hard. Why go chase a new shiny toy? Really amazing what people think when making personnel decisions.

RB's are easy to replace??. How did that go the years in between Bradshaw and Barkley?



People never learn. They chase people out of town, but have no real solution on what happens next.


Not sure what you guys are arguing...I don't see anybody above in this thread suggesting find a shiny new toy as in a high draft pick at RB.

Someone above said a Day 3 pick which is reasonable and I would argue they should do anyway to find some depth in case Saquon isn't recovering well.
I would, provided he's  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2020 12:10 pm : link
not asking for the moon.
...  
christian : 11/30/2020 12:25 pm : link
A good comp is a Tevin Coleman, primarily a backup in Atlanta, sprung into a starting role by injury in his 4th year and averaged 4 YPC.

He got 2/8.5M in SF to be part of a committee.

Question is do the Giants really want to invest 16M+ against the cap at RB in 21?
Exhibit A  
GManinDC : 11/30/2020 12:26 pm : link
Winning teams
JoeyBigBlue : 7:44 am : link : reply
Don’t give back up runningbacks a second contract. You either get a guy late in the draft of find someone off the street. The RB position is replaceable.
RE: RE: Wouldn't be smart to keep him?  
Section331 : 11/30/2020 12:35 pm : link
In comment 15061253 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 15061242 GManinDC said:


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Drafted vet guy. Works hard. Why go chase a new shiny toy? Really amazing what people think when making personnel decisions.

RB's are easy to replace??. How did that go the years in between Bradshaw and Barkley?



People never learn. They chase people out of town, but have no real solution on what happens next.


No one is "chasing" him out of town, merely pointing out that he may want to go somewhere where he has a chance to be the featured back, AND that we may not want to spend too much on a backup RB. That is how teams should operate.
RE: ...  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 12:38 pm : link
In comment 15061299 christian said:
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A good comp is a Tevin Coleman, primarily a backup in Atlanta, sprung into a starting role by injury in his 4th year and averaged 4 YPC.

He got 2/8.5M in SF to be part of a committee.

Question is do the Giants really want to invest 16M+ against the cap at RB in 21?


If the goal is to continue making errors with respect to roster decisions...yes.
RE: Exhibit A  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15061300 GManinDC said:
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Winning teams
JoeyBigBlue : 7:44 am : link : reply
Don’t give back up runningbacks a second contract. You either get a guy late in the draft of find someone off the street. The RB position is replaceable.


Huh? This describes a shiny, new toy in your view?
Yes it does  
GManinDC : 11/30/2020 2:38 pm : link
It represents. IMO, an onging trend of not wanting to sign their own players and going after others. It's that way whenever a player is up for a contract.
RE: Yes it does  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 4:01 pm : link
In comment 15061589 GManinDC said:
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It represents. IMO, an onging trend of not wanting to sign their own players and going after others. It's that way whenever a player is up for a contract.


Why can't the Giants draft a running back on Day 3 in the normal course of business?
RE: RE: Yes it does  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15061804 LBH15 said:
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In comment 15061589 GManinDC said:


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It represents. IMO, an onging trend of not wanting to sign their own players and going after others. It's that way whenever a player is up for a contract.



Why can't the Giants draft a running back on Day 3 in the normal course of business?


A shiny new toy would be...well, kind of like if the Giants drafted a RB with the #2 overall pick.
Yes they can  
GManinDC : 11/30/2020 4:11 pm : link
And if Barkley get hurt, we can rely on a 3rd day back with limited experience the load. Yep, makes perfect sense.

Like drafting as day 3 QB. As soon as you need them, yoju wonder why you didn't have more experience.
RE: Yes they can  
LBH15 : 11/30/2020 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15061822 GManinDC said:
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And if Barkley get hurt, we can rely on a 3rd day back with limited experience the load. Yep, makes perfect sense.

Like drafting as day 3 QB. As soon as you need them, yoju wonder why you didn't have more experience.


Running back is one of the easier transitions for rookies to make in the NFL. And its actually good to have fresher legs developing at RB for this roster.

And not for nothing but Gallman was a 4th, Freeman a 4th and Morris I think a 6th.

You catch my drift yet?
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