Theres no question in my mind hes our 2nd best RB. We can use him back badly from IR. Can do it all 3 down guy like Gallman. Lewis and Morris are more specialist. More juice than Lewis/Morris. Critical return.
We should activate him for week 14 without question if healthy and starts to practice next week.
This season not next season.
hes better than Morris/Lewis, should get some decent snaps.
they're similar backs, Freeman better in name only IMO.
Maybe Freeman has slightly better hands.
But RB depth chart does need a backup capable of what the starter can do, but Morris and Lewis are changes of pace/short yardage/3rd down back
With Barkley back next year, hopefully to start the season, no need for both Freeman and Gallman
they're similar backs, Freeman better in name only IMO.
Maybe Freeman has slightly better hands.
But RB depth chart does need a backup capable of what the starter can do, but Morris and Lewis are changes of pace/short yardage/3rd down back
With Barkley back next year, hopefully to start the season, no need for both Freeman and Gallman
I don't get the "redundant" part. How much of a pounding does a running back who has to go through the line in the Giants' system, as it is now, have to absorb to get near 100 yards running? Every game? What's lost by having two to share and do the same job with less wear and tear on each? Then maybe we'd get 120 yards out of the two or 140. Why do we have to think of it in terms of who is #1 or #2 or #3 for that matter? Who cares? Barkley is #1, but absent. Let's just see how he is and how that goes next year.
and for now, it's fine. but next year, IMO there is almost no chance the Giants have Barkley, Gallman, and Freeman - because all three are similar bell cow backs.
it's why teams normally build their RB group with
1. all round back
2. backup (should be similar to #1)
3. 3rd down back, excels at pass catching and pass protection
4. Short yardage back or sometimes a full back
so, of course nothing is wrong with sharing the load among RB's but what most coaches want is a lead back who can play 3 downs, it makes the playbook more versatile. and a RB like that who can give your #1 a rest and then other players who specialize. otherwise your roster doesn't give you enough diversity.
but Gallman's trade value has increased this year. Not that we would get a lot for him but we surely would get more than we would have received three months ago..
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RB rotation with Gallman/Freeman. I'd put Alfred Morris back on the P-Squad and go Gallman/Freeman/Lewis.
Morris is avging 4.7 yds per carry,25% for first downs. He's running quite well.
Both guys are well passed their prime with Morris being further down the road. I think Freeman has more of the burst left and can still break one, if he can stay healthy, a very big if ... regardless, all these guys need to run between the tackles as none of them have the speed to get outside.
but Gallman's trade value has increased this year. Not that we would get a lot for him but we surely would get more than we would have received three months ago..
They can’t trade Gallman. He’s a UFA after this season
When he had 261 carries as rookie. caught a whopping 91 passes, had 15 TDs, and led the entire NFL in yards from scrimmage, I'm sure you didn't think he was a bell cow back either.
did you think before you submitted that snarky post or nope didn't think about doing that all?
maybe replaceable but not really redundant. he returns kicks is good out of the backfield catching passes, and is a really good pass blocker (from what I read) - IOW a prototypical 3rd down back.
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maybe replaceable but not really redundant. he returns kicks is good out of the backfield catching passes, and is a really good pass blocker (from what I read) - IOW a prototypical 3rd down back.
I can’t speak of his past history, but Lewis has been a liability in pass protection this season. He’s gotten Jones blown up on several occasions
of course reputations seems to endure longer than reality so if you see Lewis struggling it's possible he's past his prime or it's possible when he did struggle it was like putting your finger in a hole to stop a leak when there are leaks everywhere. Or you, maybe aren't sure what you saw.
either way, it's not my area of expertise so I rely on the pundits.
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Joe Judge disagrees with you about needing a 3rd down back.
And Barkley struggles in pass protection. Not sure about Gallman.
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Saquon is a bell cow back? Nope don’t see that at all.
When he had 261 carries as rookie. caught a whopping 91 passes, had 15 TDs, and led the entire NFL in yards from scrimmage, I'm sure you didn't think he was a bell cow back either.
did you think before you submitted that snarky post or nope didn't think about doing that all?
this. there is little reason to pay barkley
Are you kidding me?? Gallman has been a pleasant surprise, and even then, if Barkley put up the type of numbers he has, he'd be called a massive failure. Freeman hasn't been able to stay healthy in the past several years.
Gallman in a great backup - maybe an ideal one to Barkley, but it is madness to suggest having him and Freeman would give us a good unit, and what happens if one of them gets hurt?? Gallman's career long run is 26 yards. And he's never had a 100 yard game.
He's been adequate as a replacement for a star player, but that's not what we would look for going forward
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Saquon is a bell cow back? Nope don’t see that at all.
When he had 261 carries as rookie. caught a whopping 91 passes, had 15 TDs, and led the entire NFL in yards from scrimmage, I'm sure you didn't think he was a bell cow back either.
did you think before you submitted that snarky post or nope didn't think about doing that all?
Maybe. Or Maybe he looked at Saquons stats and saw he was getting more like 16-20 snaps running per game as opposed to the 20-24 you'd normally like to see out of a "bell cow" type back, i.e., the kind you don't need to spell at all.
Is this a serious post?
Barkley as a rookie was on the field 83% of the offense snaps. Find me the list of rookies with a higher percent of volume? You think because he left the field 17% of the snaps he's not a bell cow back. You didn't bother to notice he caught 91 passes. 91 passes. in addition to his 15 - 20 carries per game he had 120 targets (or around 8 per game) in the passing game.
some times people really want so hard for a point they're making to be right it makes them very stupid. With all due respect, you are in this class right now.
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Allows us to trade Barkley.
this. there is little reason to pay barkley
So you trade one of the most explosive and feared RBs in the NFL because you have two pedestrian guys behind him playing decently?
I love what Gallman is doing and thought Shurmur a fool for not using him. But how many times has Gallman been tripped up in the last 4 or 5 weeks when he should have been gone - you know the plays that Barkley probably takes to the house. Yes, Gallman probably makes a few hard fought runs into gainers that Barkley may not. Add that Barkley is frighteningly dangerous on a pass pattern and the others are not.
No you do not trade Barkley. You are licking your chops at the thought of Barkley running behind a competent line.