Given the fantastic production for the free agents, the Joe Judge hire, and the team improving with meaningful games in December, I say yes. Deserving or not, I think he definitely bought himself another year.
I’d probably give DG one more year, and let him finish up what he’s started. And if the Giants aren’t a playoff team next year he’s gone.
If the next crop of players don’t get this team into serious contention, I think the batting average is just way too low.
It’s a huge offseason, he’s got a ton to prove.
I think this is one of the most fair, rationale takes regarding Gettleman on BBI.
If I’d been in charge, both Gettleman and Shurmur would have been gone. But it’s too much plausible deniability when you keeping shifting GMs and coaches out. Personally I think 3 years is enough to judge a GM, but with 2 coaches in 3 years it’s muddy.
If a GM can’t put together a playoff team in 4 years with the number of premium picks and cap space Gettleman was afforded, he’s not cut out for it.
Another huge factor is Judge. The GM supports the coach, I’ve been very pleased with Judge thus far, so I’m not that interested in shaking up the front office.
If Judge & Gettleman work well together, I’m fine with it. I’m not thrilled with the idea of bringing in a GM who hasn’t worked with Judge previously, that doesn’t make sense imo.
^ Agreed. I also wonder if it’s a coincidence the Giants had 2 dog shit UFA classes in 2018 and 2019, and then a home run in 2020 when Judge showed up.
If Gettleman is still a principal in decision making, then next year has got to be his make or break year. If he’s Judge’s errand boy, then I guess who cares if he stays or goes.
RE: Let me ask the exact same question with this change...
Lol ok. let’s keep playing fantasy island and why not give the giants 2 more wins this season since they lost 4 that easily could have gone either way and only lost those games because the young qb struggled.
Give me a break. If you can’t see the process being made you’re blind. Forget the record and standings. The team is developing right before our eyes. And again, can we finish the god damned season first before we proclaim the record in bedrock? For fucks sake. You guys have been temperature taking DG and so called this brutally shitty roster all year long but uhh ohhhh the giants are playing better, 4-2 since the 0-5 start, something many of us said they might do, so can we see how things end up? Many if you had the worst nyg roster ever going 2-14 this year. Now what? Save it. Please.
RE: RE: Let me ask the exact same question with this change...
Lol ok. let’s keep playing fantasy island and why not give the giants 2 more wins this season since they lost 4 that easily could have gone either way and only lost those games because the young qb struggled.
Give me a break. If you can’t see the process being made you’re blind. Forget the record and standings. The team is developing right before our eyes. And again, can we finish the god damned season first before we proclaim the record in bedrock? For fucks sake. You guys have been temperature taking DG and so called this brutally shitty roster all year long but uhh ohhhh the giants are playing better, 4-2 since the 0-5 start, something many of us said they might do, so can we see how things end up? Many if you had the worst nyg roster ever going 2-14 this year. Now what? Save it. Please.
The extremes you got thru just to post a few sentences never ceases to amaze me.
My point, that you missed, is DG should be measured on the quality of the roster he builds. Not the poor quality or misfortune of the other 3 divisional foes this season.
If you're reading the tea leaves that began to fall a few weeks ago
^ Agreed. I also wonder if it’s a coincidence the Giants had 2 dog shit UFA classes in 2018 and 2019, and then a home run in 2020 when Judge showed up.
If Gettleman is still a principal in decision making, then next year has got to be his make or break year. If he’s Judge’s errand boy, then I guess who cares if he stays or goes.
What is a make or break year? Do we have to go 8-8? 9-7? Playoffs?
^ Agreed. I also wonder if it’s a coincidence the Giants had 2 dog shit UFA classes in 2018 and 2019, and then a home run in 2020 when Judge showed up.
If Gettleman is still a principal in decision making, then next year has got to be his make or break year. If he’s Judge’s errand boy, then I guess who cares if he stays or goes.
What is a make or break year? Do we have to go 8-8? 9-7? Playoffs?
Given the takes this year, 7 wins and a bunch of close losses would get him another year.
Dallas 8-3
Phil 7-4
Giants 4-7
WFT 4-7
Does Gettleman survive this year?
Wasn’t there another thread where we were told you can’t use “if this”, “if that”?
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I’d probably give DG one more year, and let him finish up what he’s started. And if the Giants aren’t a playoff team next year he’s gone.
If the next crop of players don’t get this team into serious contention, I think the batting average is just way too low.
It’s a huge offseason, he’s got a ton to prove.
I think this is one of the most fair, rationale takes regarding Gettleman on BBI.
If I’d been in charge, both Gettleman and Shurmur would have been gone. But it’s too much plausible deniability when you keeping shifting GMs and coaches out. Personally I think 3 years is enough to judge a GM, but with 2 coaches in 3 years it’s muddy.
If a GM can’t put together a playoff team in 4 years with the number of premium picks and cap space Gettleman was afforded, he’s not cut out for it.
If Judge & Gettleman work well together, I’m fine with it. I’m not thrilled with the idea of bringing in a GM who hasn’t worked with Judge previously, that doesn’t make sense imo.
If Gettleman is still a principal in decision making, then next year has got to be his make or break year. If he’s Judge’s errand boy, then I guess who cares if he stays or goes.
Dallas 8-3
Phil 7-4
Giants 4-7
WFT 4-7
Does Gettleman survive this year?
Lol ok. let’s keep playing fantasy island and why not give the giants 2 more wins this season since they lost 4 that easily could have gone either way and only lost those games because the young qb struggled.
Give me a break. If you can’t see the process being made you’re blind. Forget the record and standings. The team is developing right before our eyes. And again, can we finish the god damned season first before we proclaim the record in bedrock? For fucks sake. You guys have been temperature taking DG and so called this brutally shitty roster all year long but uhh ohhhh the giants are playing better, 4-2 since the 0-5 start, something many of us said they might do, so can we see how things end up? Many if you had the worst nyg roster ever going 2-14 this year. Now what? Save it. Please.
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This is what the NFC East looks like instead:
Dallas 8-3
Phil 7-4
Giants 4-7
WFT 4-7
Does Gettleman survive this year?
Lol ok. let’s keep playing fantasy island and why not give the giants 2 more wins this season since they lost 4 that easily could have gone either way and only lost those games because the young qb struggled.
Give me a break. If you can’t see the process being made you’re blind. Forget the record and standings. The team is developing right before our eyes. And again, can we finish the god damned season first before we proclaim the record in bedrock? For fucks sake. You guys have been temperature taking DG and so called this brutally shitty roster all year long but uhh ohhhh the giants are playing better, 4-2 since the 0-5 start, something many of us said they might do, so can we see how things end up? Many if you had the worst nyg roster ever going 2-14 this year. Now what? Save it. Please.
The extremes you got thru just to post a few sentences never ceases to amaze me.
My point, that you missed, is DG should be measured on the quality of the roster he builds. Not the poor quality or misfortune of the other 3 divisional foes this season.
If Gettleman is still a principal in decision making, then next year has got to be his make or break year. If he’s Judge’s errand boy, then I guess who cares if he stays or goes.
What is a make or break year? Do we have to go 8-8? 9-7? Playoffs?
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^ Agreed. I also wonder if it’s a coincidence the Giants had 2 dog shit UFA classes in 2018 and 2019, and then a home run in 2020 when Judge showed up.
If Gettleman is still a principal in decision making, then next year has got to be his make or break year. If he’s Judge’s errand boy, then I guess who cares if he stays or goes.
What is a make or break year? Do we have to go 8-8? 9-7? Playoffs?
Given the takes this year, 7 wins and a bunch of close losses would get him another year.