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College QB who you thought would excel in pros, but sucked..

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/30/2020 7:28 pm
We all have our misses. For me, it's Cade McNown. I saw him a ton at UCLA & thought he'd be a no doubt about it NFL superstar. Boy was I wrong...

I thought JaMarcus Russell wouldn't translate to the pros & wasn't surprised he was a total bust. I was on the fence about Leaf; the character concerns were hard to ignore even at the time.

Who did you whiff on?
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Rosen was the most recent ...  
FStubbs : 11/30/2020 8:13 pm : link
... though I think he faced some unprecedented roadblocks.

So, going back - Tim Couch.I thought the guy was the next superstar. But it just didn't happen because of injuries - and Cleveland.
Carr and Harrington  
widmerseyebrow : 11/30/2020 8:14 pm : link
Moreso the former.
RE: Osi  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 11/30/2020 8:14 pm : link
In comment 15062202 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Did that even last a minute? If memory serves, both suffered devastating injuries within months of one another in 2012.


I don't know the exact timetable, based on a quick search it seems like Rose was already hurt a few months before RG3 played a regular season snap. But this was before all the countless setbacks Rose faced so there was still a ton of hope he would bounce back to his previous MVP level. And RG3 was also heavily hyped before putting on an NFL jersey. But I definitely remember Derrick Rose and RG3 being everywhere in terms of marketing, they were both being pushed so hard.
Tebow  
kinard : 11/30/2020 8:16 pm : link
... I was one of the faithful.
Leinart  
Matt M. : 11/30/2020 8:19 pm : link
Losman
Mirer
Leaf
Ware
Smith

Off the top of my head
Marcus Mariota  
Mike in NY : 11/30/2020 8:23 pm : link
Robert Griffin III
Josh Rosen  
jeff57 : 11/30/2020 8:27 pm : link
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Another  
AcidTest : 11/30/2020 8:31 pm : link
vote for Josh Rosen. Also JP Losman for the reasons BLUATHRT said.
Ryan Leaf.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 11/30/2020 8:34 pm : link
In college, he was big, but moved well for his size and had a great arm. I thought he was going to be every bit as good as Peyton.

You can’t see inside someone’s head and heart watching games on TV.
Yeah Josh Rosen for me too  
PatersonPlank : 11/30/2020 8:37 pm : link
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I’m dating myself here.  
Mike in Prescott : 11/30/2020 8:40 pm : link
I thought Mark Herman out of Purdue was going to be the Broncos (the Colts) QB of the future back in the early ‘80s. Instead he ended up as a minor footnote.
RE: Josh Rosin  
compton : 11/30/2020 8:49 pm : link
In comment 15062125 kes722 said:
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Is my most recent. Though he was the best in his class.

Overall that entire class other then Jackson has been very disappointing



You are forgetting Josh Allen in Buffalo.
Daniel  
pjcas18 : 11/30/2020 8:53 pm : link
Jones
Sam Darnold  
JoeyBigBlue : 11/30/2020 8:58 pm : link
There I said it.
Josh Rosen, Kyle lauletta  
rasbutant : 11/30/2020 9:09 pm : link
Drew Hansen, Ryan Mallett, Landry Jones, Brandon Weeden, Jake Locker, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Matt Schaub (but he did have a decent career), Kyle Boller, Chris Simms, Tim Couch

Oh and Tim Tebow
The college.  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2020 9:09 pm : link
game is so different to evaluate a QB's skills on a good team.

I watched CJ Leak play his entire HS career. Thought he was a can't miss NFL prospect. I don't think he was ever on a NFL roster, although I could be wrong.
Haskins.  
BelieveJJ : 11/30/2020 9:15 pm : link
I loved Haskins as a Buckeye.

I'm not picking QBs for anyone, thank G-d.
Darnold  
stretch234 : 11/30/2020 9:33 pm : link
Bad skill talent, bad OL, bad Coach, bad GM

They Jets have done nothing to help him. The Colts with that OL are a perfect spot for him

Tim Couch and David Carr were guys who could play and got the shit beat out of them. Jets are letting Darnold take a beating while seemingly ready to move on
Rosen  
Breeze_94 : 11/30/2020 9:33 pm : link
Sam Bradford
Marcus Mariota
Vince Young
Glynn  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 11/30/2020 9:51 pm : link
Griffing. Although I was also a booster for Josh Rosen. I wanted one of the two Joshes -- Rosen or Allen. I read somewhere that DG said he would have picked Allen had he picked a QB that year. He said that shortly after that draft happened.
RE: Glynn  
bw in dc : 11/30/2020 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15062490 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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I read somewhere that DG said he would have picked Allen had he picked a QB that year. He said that shortly after that draft happened.


Are you sure you aren't mixing up years and thinking of the LB/Edge I'm pretty sure DG mentioned him post draft...

As for the QB Josh Allen, that was the miss right now. He's having a break out season and is a real dual-threat NFL QB with a generational arm.

Josh Rosen  
Sy'56 : 11/30/2020 9:58 pm : link
still hoping he gets a fair shot but as of now, one of my biggest misses ever.
Jeff George  
Tom in NY : 11/30/2020 10:11 pm : link
He had a howitzer for an arm and just enough athletic ability to keep plays alive.

I didn't know that he was a world class jack@ss off the field....which led to him playing for many teams before his act wore thin.

Always threw a great ball though.
RE: Josh Rosen  
bw in dc : 11/30/2020 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15062501 Sy'56 said:
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still hoping he gets a fair shot but as of now, one of my biggest misses ever.


Did you watch any of his rookie year?

I caught a few games and I swear Rosen made some tremendous throws. Unfortunately it was a perfect storm the wrong way - limited weapons, laughable protection, and Rosen's lack of athleticism...
Only one. Winston  
GoDeep13 : 11/30/2020 10:29 pm : link
I thought in his 1st 5 seasons in the NFL that Winston would have a MVP trophy. I was completely sold on his arm talent and his abilities as a leader. He can still sling it with anyone, but his decision making is what has killed him.
John Huarte  
yalebowl : 11/30/2020 11:12 pm : link
QB from Notre Dame. Drafted by the Jets in same year they drafted Joe Namath.
One interesting thing about Rosen  
Milton : 11/30/2020 11:20 pm : link
He's been benched a few times but he hasn't missed a game due to injury. Darnold has been injured repeatedly and both Allen and Mayfield have missed time to injury. Of course I realize it's hard to get injured when you are on the bench, but for all the criticism over his college injuries and concussions, he held up pretty good behind inferior lines in Arizona and Miami. It's not like he didn't take a beating when he was on the field.

It'll be interesting to see what Brady chooses after the season. Does he call it a career or give it one more year? If he calls it a career, will Arians sign Rosen to be his starter (or with a clear shot at the starting gig)?
Guys not mentioned so far  
Keyser : 12/1/2020 3:57 am : link
Matt Flynn
I thought Brett Hundley with the right coaching would be good. I thought Jim Mora Jr stunted his growth at UCLA but that someone in the NFL would get a lot out of him.
RE: RE: It's too early to write the book on the 2018 QB class  
Milton : 12/1/2020 4:50 am : link
In comment 15062173 steve in ky said:
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You obviously are a big fan. Since he has been in the NFL what do you like most about Rosen that makes you still believe in him?
Sorry, Steve, just seeing this now. It's not so much that I still believe him, it's that I haven't seen enough "bad" to shut the door on him, especially given the circumstances in which he found himself. Kingsbury had already professed his love for Kyler Murray before even becoming head coach of the Cardinals and it is was widely reported that the Dolphins already had a hard on for Tua when they made the trade for Rosen.

What I liked about Rosen in the draft was his courage in the pocket and his picture perfect mechanics. That hasn't changed I don't think, so why assume he can't rebound under the right circumstances?
Jake Locker  
Giantophile : 12/1/2020 6:00 am : link
I don't know why but I thought he had the goods. Rosen and mariota are others.
RE: Interesting question...  
Scott in Montreal : 12/1/2020 8:23 am : link
In comment 15062166 bw in dc said:
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Assuming you mean first rounders.

Off the top of my head...

Rick Mirer
Matt Leinert
Brady Quinn
David Carr


Good list.

Carr's whole career was derailed after that first season. He played well but got the shit kicked out of him. He was sacked something like 70 times that year. He took a serious beating and played with the football equivalent of PTSD for the rest of his career.
Besides Ryan Leaf  
Rick in Dallas : 12/1/2020 8:38 am : link
David Klinger and Josh Rosen
RE: RE: Interesting question...  
Mike in NY : 12/1/2020 11:24 am : link
In comment 15062924 Scott in Montreal said:
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In comment 15062166 bw in dc said:


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Assuming you mean first rounders.

Off the top of my head...

Rick Mirer
Matt Leinert
Brady Quinn
David Carr



Good list.

Carr's whole career was derailed after that first season. He played well but got the shit kicked out of him. He was sacked something like 70 times that year. He took a serious beating and played with the football equivalent of PTSD for the rest of his career.


I want to say it was around Year 3 when Carr finally had an OL and you saw what type of QB he could have been. Carr is a warning to teams that you can't take a franchise QB if you don't have any OL in place.
I thought Brian Brohm would be at least a solid NFL QB  
Greg from LI : 12/1/2020 11:33 am : link
Yeah, that didn't happen at all.
Going back in history a few decades,  
BelieveJJ : 12/1/2020 11:37 am : link
I liked Rodney Pete better than Troy Aikman.

You REALLY don't want me picking your next all star QB.
Josh Rosen for sure.  
barens : 12/1/2020 11:53 am : link
I bought into the hype that he was one of the best high school players coming into college, and that he was just stuck on an average UCLA team.
RE: RE: Interesting question...  
bw in dc : 12/1/2020 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15062924 Scott in Montreal said:
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In comment 15062166 bw in dc said:


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Assuming you mean first rounders.

Off the top of my head...

Rick Mirer
Matt Leinert
Brady Quinn
David Carr



Good list.

Carr's whole career was derailed after that first season. He played well but got the shit kicked out of him. He was sacked something like 70 times that year. He took a serious beating and played with the football equivalent of PTSD for the rest of his career.


Exactly. He was a definitely a victim of circumstances. Horrible circumstances.
I LOVED Jake Locker  
KWALL2 : 12/1/2020 12:22 pm : link
So athletic & could move around and rip it on the run. But in the NFL, it rarely went to the intended target. He had injuries. And then just quit after a few years.
The Story On Locker - ( New Window )
My List  
Bernie : 12/1/2020 12:45 pm : link
Rick Mirer
Joey Harrington
Todd Marinovich
RE: Vince Young  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 12/1/2020 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15062187 DavidinBMNY said:
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After that amazing MVP championship game in college, I thought he'd do way more... I wouldn't exactly say he sucked, but he did crash and burn.


That's still the best college football game and performance I've seen to this day, just a pure classic down to the legendary Keith Jackson announcing the game. Those 2 Rose Bowl performances are why Vince Young is my go to answer on "best college football player you've ever seen" threads.

I was really rooting for him because of all that. But at the same time, his Uncle Rico throwing motion and his infamous Wonderlic score were major red flags. My heart said he'd overcome it but my brain said he'd have a tough time succeeding in the NFL.
RE: Glynn  
shyster : 12/1/2020 1:43 pm : link
In comment 15062490 Nomad Crow on the Madison said:
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I read somewhere that DG said he would have picked Allen had he picked a QB that year. He said that shortly after that draft happened.


DG never said that.

The only post-2018 draft public comment from an NYG insider re the QBs was Chris Mara's remark in a radio interview with Mike Russo that: "We liked the QBs but we all had a different preference as to which one. We all agreed on Barkley."

Nothing further ever came out about who liked which QB.

My hunch, only a hunch, is that DG would have gone for Mayfield.
Not sure if you can has sucked, and the book is still being  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/1/2020 1:48 pm : link
written, but I thought Mayfield was going to be a perennial top 5 type. Brings a lot to football teams that aren’t apparentl, but his skill on field is middling so far.
RE: RE: Glynn  
Milton : 12/1/2020 2:12 pm : link
In comment 15063363 shyster said:
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My hunch, only a hunch, is that DG would have gone for Mayfield.
My hunch as well. I think the Jets wanted Mayfield too when they traded up to the number three slot (and were assuming he'd still be available when they were on the clock).
RE: John Huarte  
Spider56 : 12/1/2020 2:18 pm : link
In comment 15062674 yalebowl said:
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QB from Notre Dame. Drafted by the Jets in same year they drafted Joe Namath.


He was the first guy I thought of too ... but the names mentioned by others should remind us that there’s no sure thing, and many with all the hype just flame out.
I am adding Wentz to my list  
PatersonPlank : 12/1/2020 2:24 pm : link
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Rick  
Carl in CT : 12/1/2020 2:30 pm : link
Mirer from ND comes to mind. Anyone remember him?
ThanksPJ  
Carl in CT : 12/1/2020 2:31 pm : link
How about the whole Montreal Canadian team.
Breeze_94 hit my two.  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/1/2020 2:39 pm : link
Breeze_94 said:
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Sam Bradford
Marcus Mariota
Vince Young
Bradford and Young were the first two that came to mind. Bradford wasn’t bad, just fragile.
RE: I am adding Wentz to my list  
bw in dc : 12/1/2020 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15063406 PatersonPlank said:
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He was the likely MVP in 2017. So the talent and the production have been evident.

But right now he looks shot, has the yips...Looks lost with less confidence, less arm, less decision making, etc.
Hackenburg  
KDubbs : 12/1/2020 3:39 pm : link
I thought he was just in the wrong system after the coaching change at Penn St
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