College QB who you thought would excel in pros, but sucked..

It was Akili Smith.

I thought Joey Harrington was going to be Favre 2.0

Rosen, hence why I'm not in an NFL front office

Is my most recent. Though he was the best in his class.

Overall that entire class other then Jackson has been very disappointing

Sam Darnold. That's right - I'm owning it.

In comment 15062125 kes722 said:

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Is my most recent. Though he was the best in his class. Overall that entire class other then Jackson has been very disappointing

Josh Allen has been damn good also.

I wanted the Giants to draft Darnold or Rosen in 2018. Once again I am glad that I do not make personnel decisions for the Giants.

In comment 15062126 Sonic Youth said:

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Sam Darnold. That's right - I'm owning it.

Bold. And I like it. Remember the Jets official Twitter account trolling us for passing on Darnold? Ha.

I saw a bunch of his games at Oregon and he was just studly. Great kid, great competitor, athletic and smart. However playing out of the spread his whole career hurt his ability in the pro's. A number of good posters here pointed at this as a fatal flaw and they were right.

for a draft pick is ridiculous..

NFL. Ryan Leaf
Giants. Danny Kanell

Both Darnold and Rosen have played for the worst teams in football and will get another chance. Of the two, I think Darnold has been worse, but too many variables to make a fair comparison. If Rosen hasn't shined by 2023 (give or take a year), I will include him with Akili Smith. Never liked Darnold. He was my least favorite of the four who went in the top ten.

and Matt Leinart

I thought he’d be a stud and was furious when Dallas signed him on the cheap. I still wonder if he would’ve had at least a serviceable career if not for his flirtation with baseball.

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It's getting late early for Rosen. The dude is on the practice squad. That's like one step out of the league. My problem with Rosen in 2018 was his commitment to the game. He seems like a pretty bright kid from a good background & there were concerns that he wasn't 100% invested in football. I have no idea if those concerns are legit, but they were a huge red flag at the time to me.

nagel

but Couch, McNown, Harrington, and Rosen all come to mind.

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In comment 15062150 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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It's getting late early for Rosen. The dude is on the practice squad. That's like one step out of the league.

It's a unique situation for him because his contract was guaranteed and so he is still being paid big bucks by Miami. Any money he earns with Tampa Bay is subtracted from that which he gets from Miami, so it makes sense for him to prefer the practice squad, which gives him more freedom to jump to a team that would give him a shot at starting if a starting job opened up. It's not like Miami released him in March. They waited until July. If this had been a normal off-season (no COVID) and if his 2020 salary wasn't guaranteed, I think he would've landed on a team's active roster. Choosing Tampa Bay under the current circumstances was a very wise move on his part (considering Brady's age and Tampa's offense).

Assuming you mean first rounders.

Off the top of my head...

Rick Mirer
Matt Leinert
Brady Quinn
David Carr

was the Poster Child.

Leinart was carried by Bush.

And Yes Josh Rosen...whom I thought would be good.

I wanted Jack Thompson the throwin samoan though he would be good

In comment 15062143 Milton said:

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Both Darnold and Rosen have played for the worst teams in football and will get another chance. Of the two, I think Darnold has been worse, but too many variables to make a fair comparison. If Rosen hasn't shined by 2023 (give or take a year), I will include him with Akili Smith. Never liked Darnold. He was my least favorite of the four who went in the top ten.

You obviously are a big fan. Since he has been in the NFL what do you like most about Rosen that makes you still believe in him?

I saw a bunch of his games his senior year at Louisville and Nagle was fantastic. When the Jets drafted him, I said, wow, the Jets just got a really good quarterback.

Well, that turned out to not be the case...

of Southern Miss had a shot to have a nice career. Smart, accurate, read defenses well. Didn’t work out. He’s actually Russell Wilson’s coach now.

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There was that one time

After that amazing MVP championship game in college, I thought he'd do way more... I wouldn't exactly say he sucked, but he did crash and burn.

In comment 15062143 Milton said:

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Both Darnold and Rosen have played for the worst teams in football and will get another chance. Of the two, I think Darnold has been worse, but too many variables to make a fair comparison. If Rosen hasn't shined by 2023 (give or take a year), I will include him with Akili Smith. Never liked Darnold. He was my least favorite of the four who went in the top ten.

Darnold has been worse?? Have you watched any of Rosen's games? Darnold had a few very strong games during his rookie season and during the end of last season. Rosen hasn't played well in any game in his brief NFL career. Honestly I would be shocked if Rosen is on an NFL roster in 2022. It wouldn't surprise me if his career is over after this season.

I was living near LA at the time and found both dazzling. Couldn't decide who would turn out better.

Turns out I was half right, to this point. The question has just morphed into who is turning out worse...

would be good. Jameis threw some INTs in college and had some clear character concerns but he also seemed to have that "it" factor and he might have had the best Freshman season in recent NCAA history. His Sophomore season wasn't as good but I was just so blown away by what he did as a Freshman that I kind of ignored all the question marks. In hindsight, that 25 TD to 18 INT ratio in his Soph season sticks out like a sore thumb.

Mariota was a weirder prospect due to the crazy Oregon offense but he was just an absolute machine in college and looked like an awesome blend of passing and running ability. I thought both of these 2 guys could be stars.

I also thought RG3 was going to be a menace in our division for a decade. People forget how hotly contested the Luck vs. RG3 debate was at the time, Luck was the safer prospect but RG3 had the higher ceiling. There was a brief moment in American Sports where RG3 and Derrick Rose were the two most popular athletes in the country and considered the future of their respective leagues, but that was truly a fleeting moment.

Did that even last a minute? If memory serves, both suffered devastating injuries within months of one another in 2012.

His release was as fast as anyone I had seen since Marino. His arm strength was ridiculous and he carried Tulane to being a legitimate college team. I was very wrong.

would be so much more than he became. Browning Nagel and Drew Henson.

Thought he was an incredible combination of talent, work ethic and leadership

I preferred him to Peyton that year.

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Darnold has been worse?? Have you watched any of Rosen's games? Darnold had a few very strong games during his rookie season and during the end of last season. Rosen hasn't played well in any game in his brief NFL career. Honestly I would be shocked if Rosen is on an NFL roster in 2022. It wouldn't surprise me if his career is over after this season.

I said this on the Rosen thread earlier today. Rosen made some great throws his rookie season. Definitely showed he had the arm talent. He was just "protected" by five parking pylons. Hell, that Cards team was a train wreck everywhere on offense...

I have no idea what happened in Miami.

Jamarcus Russel

Matt Leinart

... though I think he faced some unprecedented roadblocks.

So, going back - Tim Couch.I thought the guy was the next superstar. But it just didn't happen because of injuries - and Cleveland.

Moreso the former.

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Did that even last a minute? If memory serves, both suffered devastating injuries within months of one another in 2012.

I don't know the exact timetable, based on a quick search it seems like Rose was already hurt a few months before RG3 played a regular season snap. But this was before all the countless setbacks Rose faced so there was still a ton of hope he would bounce back to his previous MVP level. And RG3 was also heavily hyped before putting on an NFL jersey. But I definitely remember Derrick Rose and RG3 being everywhere in terms of marketing, they were both being pushed so hard.

... I was one of the faithful.

Losman
Mirer
Leaf
Ware
Smith

Off the top of my head

Robert Griffin III

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vote for Josh Rosen. Also JP Losman for the reasons BLUATHRT said.

In college, he was big, but moved well for his size and had a great arm. I thought he was going to be every bit as good as Peyton.

You can’t see inside someone’s head and heart watching games on TV.

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I thought Mark Herman out of Purdue was going to be the Broncos (the Colts) QB of the future back in the early ‘80s. Instead he ended up as a minor footnote.