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DC Gmen Fan : 11/30/2020 7:34 pm
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RE: Why isnt the play reviewable in the 1st place ?  
cjac : 11/30/2020 9:46 pm : link
In comment 15062467 Giantfan21 said:
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Seems like an obvious missed call that could have been corrected on replay but for some reason its not reviewable


Belichick has been banging the drum to make everything reviewable
Ha,  
St. Jimmy : 11/30/2020 9:46 pm : link
surprised the refs didn't say it was good anyway.
Well, now we know why Pederson  
BelieveJJ : 11/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
loves to go for 2.
Missed xp  
adamg : 11/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
Beautiful
RE: Ha,  
cjac : 11/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15062473 St. Jimmy said:
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surprised the refs didn't say it was good anyway.


Hahaha. Well done
and boom, that missed call  
markky : 11/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
clearly affected the score. it better not affect the outcome.
It has to get to the line kf scrimmage  
nygiants16 : 11/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
the mechanics of the officials is the referee jas the qb to see if he got outside of the pocket..

The guy on the line of scrimmage tells the referee if it got to the line or if their was a rb in the area...

That is why it is a delayed call..

i am an official that is how it is worked
RE: RE: LOL  
j_rud : 11/30/2020 9:47 pm : link
In comment 15062464 robbieballs2003 said:
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That wasnt NEAR the line of scrimmage. But maybe we need another lecture as to how us dumb yokels just dont understand the intricacies of reffing an NFL game. Fucking dumbshits.



Again, not the point. The point is what is the rule? The announcers are awful so I don't trust them with anything. The last I remember the rule it was near the LoS. Yes, that is open for interpretation which is dumb but just because people don't like it doesn't mean they get to change the language of the rule. If IG is not reviewable then that tends to lean toward near as opposed to past the LoS. No?


Nope, rulebook states "at or beyond the line of scrimmage". That was 3 yards shy. Not even close.
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HAHAAAAAAA  
TJ : 11/30/2020 9:48 pm : link
that was funny
RE: RE: LOL  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2020 9:48 pm : link
In comment 15062464 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 15062456 j_rud said:


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That wasnt NEAR the line of scrimmage. But maybe we need another lecture as to how us dumb yokels just dont understand the intricacies of reffing an NFL game. Fucking dumbshits.



Again, not the point. The point is what is the rule? The announcers are awful so I don't trust them with anything. The last I remember the rule it was near the LoS. Yes, that is open for interpretation which is dumb but just because people don't like it doesn't mean they get to change the language of the rule. If IG is not reviewable then that tends to lean toward near as opposed to past the LoS. No?


The rule says at or beyond the LOS. They aren't going to put in some subjective word like "near"
But again..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2020 9:49 pm : link
this is another crucial play that the announcers just gloss over. They move on to talk about what a great drive it was.

That drive was made possible by blowing a call. An obvious call
RE: RE: Question: cause I’ve never quite understood it  
jpkmets : 11/30/2020 9:49 pm : link
In comment 15062463 Leg of Theismann said:
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When there is a massive TOP advantage, how come the defense is always gassed but not the offense that is out there forever? Is it the ability of the offense to sub in and out more liberally?

Just have always accepted that without understanding it completely.



jpkmets,

My theory on that has always been this: Defense is more read and react, so you have a lot more stopping and starting, a lot more cutting, which I’ve always found more tiresome than a lot of straight line running without so much stopping and starting. (This makes sense too when you think of a car and how much more gas it uses per mile when it has to stop and start a lot.)

On Offense you know where you’re running on every play. A WR makes one cut and goes. The only exception is if you get the ball, THEN you may need to stop and start and make more cuts of course, but all offensive players don’t get the ball every play. Defenders need to stop and start a lot more: read where their man is going, stop, follow him, if he makes a cut, stop, follow him, then see who has the ball, stop, sprint toward that guy to tackle him, etc. (that’s the other thing— oftentimes most of the 11 defenders sprint toward the ball carrier in case they need to be the one to make the tackle, whereas offensive players, unless they’re in a position to make a block, are often able to just stop and watch the play when it’s far enough away from them)

Does that make any sense? It’s always made sense in my head but I’ve never actually written it out like that. I don’t mean for these statements about offense and defense to sound like absolutes— it’s all relative: It does seem like it takes a bit more energy to play D than to play O so there has to be something there? Idk


That does make sense! Thank you!
Thats a crock of shit  
j_rud : 11/30/2020 9:49 pm : link
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RE: But again..  
jpkmets : 11/30/2020 9:50 pm : link
In comment 15062483 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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this is another crucial play that the announcers just gloss over. They move on to talk about what a great drive it was.

That drive was made possible by blowing a call. An obvious call


Absolutely. A 25 yard swing that totally changes the entire character of the game and there’s nothing from this shitty booth.

The whole intentional grounding exception is bullshit anyway.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2020 9:53 pm : link
Why should an offense be allowed off the hook just because a QB threw the ball out of bounds when pressured. The defense should be rewarded. Get rid of the outside the pocket and at or beyond the LoS rule. It has to be in the vicinity of a receiver. Easy. Same goes for the end zone. Why do QBs get to throw it in the stands of nothing is there?
Refs sucking Philly dry  
Route 9 : 11/30/2020 9:53 pm : link
once again
Well. Here’s my opinion  
cjac : 11/30/2020 9:57 pm : link
It’s all about ratings and ad revenue

Half the Eagle fans who were about to go to bed are cracking open another beer and staying to watch the 3rd Q
This wasn't a "missed call"  
ZogZerg : 11/30/2020 9:57 pm : link
7 refs on field and not one saw the coach catch the ball 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage. Not a Chance! Refs purposely didn't throw flag. NFL is garbage this year! There was No conversation between the refs to discuss it. Oh yeah, and the broadcast sucks balls as well.
I want the Hawks to win but I wouldn't  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2020 9:59 pm : link
mind some banged up Hawks players..


RE: The whole intentional grounding exception is bullshit anyway.  
steve in ky : 11/30/2020 10:02 pm : link
In comment 15062493 robbieballs2003 said:
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Why should an offense be allowed off the hook just because a QB threw the ball out of bounds when pressured. The defense should be rewarded. Get rid of the outside the pocket and at or beyond the LoS rule. It has to be in the vicinity of a receiver. Easy. Same goes for the end zone. Why do QBs get to throw it in the stands of nothing is there?


The QB throwing it away is part of the game, and they aren't completely off the hook because the defense caused the offense to waste a down. That is something

You really think it would improve the game forcing every qb to force a throw into coverage or purposely take a sack in order to avoid grounding? Injuries and turn overs would skyrocket.
Intentional grounding  
ray in arlington : 11/30/2020 10:02 pm : link
the tackle box language used to be "near" the line of scrimmage. Sometime between 2004 and 2012 it was changed to "at or beyond".


It is explicitly stated as non-reviewable.
Still pissed  
jpkmets : 11/30/2020 10:03 pm : link
I hope the Seahawks play a clean half and put a hurt on them. Left a fuckton out there in the first half
The only thing about Seattle  
GoDeep13 : 11/30/2020 10:08 pm : link
That looks scary is Metcalf. Everything else is meh.
RE: RE: The whole intentional grounding exception is bullshit anyway.  
robbieballs2003 : 11/30/2020 10:08 pm : link
In comment 15062504 steve in ky said:
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In comment 15062493 robbieballs2003 said:


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Why should an offense be allowed off the hook just because a QB threw the ball out of bounds when pressured. The defense should be rewarded. Get rid of the outside the pocket and at or beyond the LoS rule. It has to be in the vicinity of a receiver. Easy. Same goes for the end zone. Why do QBs get to throw it in the stands of nothing is there?



The QB throwing it away is part of the game, and they aren't completely off the hook because the defense caused the offense to waste a down. That is something

You really think it would improve the game forcing every qb to force a throw into coverage or purposely take a sack in order to avoid grounding? Injuries and turn overs would skyrocket.


I think defenses get screwed over so much in the NFL. I love defensive battles. It would absolutely change the game. Not sure why injuries would skyrocket. Please don't go into why you think they would. I know what you are trying to say.
Seattle is going to blow this  
Carl in CT : 11/30/2020 10:12 pm : link
I just feel it.
Seattle looks dreadful as well  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:13 pm : link
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Seattle's lack of pass D  
DieHard : 11/30/2020 10:14 pm : link
In full effect now.
I do agree with one thing  
steve in ky : 11/30/2020 10:15 pm : link
I love defensive battles as well. My thoughts is too many rule changes is what took this game away from that. If I had they authority I would roll back some of those instead of continuing to alter the game in hopes of getting it right. QB's have been throwing the ball out of bounds forever, that's not the problem.
Seahawks gonna blow this and then  
jpkmets : 11/30/2020 10:19 pm : link
Get all fired up next week. Assholes.
When I see..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2020 10:20 pm : link
the Eagles and Cowboys getting calls this year, it makes me even angrier when I hear people say "Bad teams get calls against them"
RE: I do agree with one thing  
Leg of Theismann : 11/30/2020 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15062516 steve in ky said:
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I love defensive battles as well. My thoughts is too many rule changes is what took this game away from that. If I had they authority I would roll back some of those instead of continuing to alter the game in hopes of getting it right. QB's have been throwing the ball out of bounds forever, that's not the problem.


No one is saying QB’s can’t throw the ball away anymore. There simply has to be a receiver in the vicinity of where you’re throwing it. QBs throw the ball away with a receiver in the vicinity all the time. The questions of “make it to the LOS” or “outside of the tackle box” don’t come up as often, but point is you’d simply be eliminating THOSE throw aways.
Never shovel dirt on the godamn Eagles  
Stu11 : 11/30/2020 10:20 pm : link
They have more lives than Jason from Halloween.
Boston Scott would have been in the right  
St. Jimmy : 11/30/2020 10:21 pm : link
spot for the screen vs. the Giants.
I feel like this is us playing them  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:23 pm : link
We are just wearing Seahawks uniforms,
He was down  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:24 pm : link
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refs trying to give the ball to the Eagles  
markky : 11/30/2020 10:24 pm : link
this will be telling.
Should be an ez  
BelieveJJ : 11/30/2020 10:25 pm : link
non call. Catch and down, not a fumble, nor incomplete pass.
Better chance challenging catch then he was down  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:25 pm : link
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That is close but I say  
jvm52106 : 11/30/2020 10:26 pm : link
incomplete.
They missed three late hits??!  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:27 pm : link
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The amount of death threats  
Leg of Theismann : 11/30/2020 10:28 pm : link
Most refs get when they go to leave the stadium in Philly HAS to have an impact on them calling the game. Even with so few fans in the stands (are their fans at this game?)
Take the fg  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:29 pm : link
Pete
David Moore  
Giantfan21 : 11/30/2020 10:29 pm : link
runs in slow motion
Did Moore not just do  
Leg of Theismann : 11/30/2020 10:31 pm : link
The same shit I said he was doing on the punt returns? Where he clearly doesn’t know the purpose of football is to move the ball forward?? He just stands there like an idiot somehow thinking THAT will open up a running lane?
RE: Never shovel dirt on the godamn Eagles  
Jints in Carolina : 11/30/2020 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15062525 Stu11 said:
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They have more lives than Jason from Halloween.


How dare you! It's Michael Myers from Halloween!
Yes!!  
Essex : 11/30/2020 10:40 pm : link
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Phew  
jpkmets : 11/30/2020 10:41 pm : link
Big play to bat that down. Not sure I’d go for it at midfield. Score 6 here!
Pederson..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/30/2020 10:41 pm : link
starts to realize that gambling with a bad team just snowballs.
RE: The amount of death threats  
jpkmets : 11/30/2020 10:42 pm : link
In comment 15062548 Leg of Theismann said:
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Most refs get when they go to leave the stadium in Philly HAS to have an impact on them calling the game. Even with so few fans in the stands (are their fans at this game?)


No fans right now. Had 7000 or so earlier in the year. But had to stop.
Analytics !  
PEEJ : 11/30/2020 10:43 pm : link
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