Jones showed impressive arm strength on that bomb to Slayton. Hit 60 yards (20 to 20) but probably like 65 yards given the angle. I think when he can step up he has more than enough arm strength, he'll never be Mahomes, but he can be Eli with legs if he can mature mentally.
1. Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Rodgers
4. Stafford
5. Wilson
6. Herbert
7. Watson
8. Lamar
9. Kyler
10. Prescott
I think you have Herbert too low, but at least this is reasonable.
Murray has a better arm than LJax, btw.
Tannehill has a very, very good arm. Better than Presott's...
Might have Herbert too low. I like how he slings it short to medium. Need to see more of the long ball. I'm sure he's great at it. I don't think he is any better than Mahomes or Rodgers though.
I have Watson on my list. Excellent arm talent. By the way Cosell has been in love with Stafford's arm talent for years. I think he still feels Stafford has the best arm in the game, based on ability to make every throw, and every tough throw.
Daniel jones is the highest rated deep ball passer in the NFL, right now, the kid puts a 50 yard pass in a tight window consistently despite having a sub-par receiving corps. Josh allen regularly misses by 5+ yards on deep balls. It's not a long-drive tournament. Ball placement is much more important.
because NOBODY here has any idea how to rank the QB's arm strength. Also, what is arm strength? How far someone can throw the ball? Show me where all of the QBs were lined up and tested for this. Otherwise, showing an occasional youtube video of a play is laughable.
Is a pretty good indicator of “arm strength”. Looking at the names on the list, “strongest arm” lower on the list of attributes for NFL success. Strong enough is what is needed. Velocity Combine results - ( New Window )
because NOBODY here has any idea how to rank the QB's arm strength. Also, what is arm strength? How far someone can throw the ball? Show me where all of the QBs were lined up and tested for this. Otherwise, showing an occasional youtube video of a play is laughable.
Arm strength isn’t so much distance (although it’s a factor). It’s the ability to get the ball to the target with velocity and zip. To throw the ball on a rope/line basically anywhere on the field. And you know it when you see it.
Watch the 3 TDs Mahomes threw to Hill on Sunday in Tampa. Those throws are missiles. On the 20 yarder to Hill, Carlton Davis is right there with tight coverage. All over Hill. But the ball is thrown with such velocity that once Davis turns to spot the ball it’s already in Hill’s hands.
I’ve been on enough college and pro sidelines - fortune enough to have a great friend in the press - to see and actually hear it. And then you can spot it on TV.
Right now Herbert has it. Allen has it. Rodgers has it. This uncanny ability to generate unusual velocity compared to their peers.
Eye for ball velocity I admit. Being up close and personal like Bw said could be an invaluable experience in regards to spotting velocity. I simply don't have it from my view, which is why I simply don't opine on the subject.
Mahomes makes throws that just leave you dumbfounded
I don't think I've ever seen anyone be able to throw on the run in the opposite direction with the kind of zip and accuracy he does every single week, not even John Elway.
RE: Mahomes makes throws that just leave you dumbfounded
I don't think I've ever seen anyone be able to throw on the run in the opposite direction with the kind of zip and accuracy he does every single week, not even John Elway.
Yeah, he's just different. Did you see the 75 yarder to Hill on Sunday? The ball traveled 62 yards in the air and it was probably 10 feet in the air at its peak. Just a laser with a flick of the wrist. The majority of the QBs are putting enough air under that ball that is looks like they just hit a pitching wedge.
To me, Elway, Marino and Rodgers were the best throwers of a football I have seen in my lifetime. Favre in the hunt, too.
But Mahomes is doing things with arm angles, body contortions, poor mechanics, etc that I've never seen. And still making winning plays...
Josh Allen is #1 in arm strength, but not even a top ten in accuracy. Hell I'd bet he's not top twenty in accuracy without checking advanced stats metrics.
Josh Allen is #1 in arm strength, but not even a top ten in accuracy. Hell I'd bet he's not top twenty in accuracy without checking advanced stats metrics.
In regular stats, he's 7th at 68.8%. Essentially tied with Mahomes and Watson. Oh, and he's 9th in yards per attempt.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone be able to throw on the run in the opposite direction with the kind of zip and accuracy he does every single week, not even John Elway.
Yeah, he's just different. Did you see the 75 yarder to Hill on Sunday? The ball traveled 62 yards in the air and it was probably 10 feet in the air at its peak. Just a laser with a flick of the wrist. The majority of the QBs are putting enough air under that ball that is looks like they just hit a pitching wedge.
To me, Elway, Marino and Rodgers were the best throwers of a football I have seen in my lifetime. Favre in the hunt, too.
But Mahomes is doing things with arm angles, body contortions, poor mechanics, etc that I've never seen. And still making winning plays...
Mahomes is as good as those guys, all things considered. He has equal velocity to anyone and he is the best thrower of the football when on the move. His ability to quick release lasers when on the move is his super power. Others have been good or great at it - Elway/Rodgers - but in that regard Mahomes is unmatched.
Josh Allen is #1 in arm strength, but not even a top ten in accuracy. Hell I'd bet he's not top twenty in accuracy without checking advanced stats metrics.
In regular stats, he's 7th at 68.8%. Essentially tied with Mahomes and Watson. Oh, and he's 9th in yards per attempt.
Im a big Allen guy, but was assuming he’d be middle of pack here, but checking the advanced metrics for QBs, holistically he’s top 10. Guy is the truth.
Josh Allen is #1 in arm strength, but not even a top ten in accuracy. Hell I'd bet he's not top twenty in accuracy without checking advanced stats metrics.
In regular stats, he's 7th at 68.8%. Essentially tied with Mahomes and Watson. Oh, and he's 9th in yards per attempt.
Im a big Allen guy, but was assuming he’d be middle of pack here, but checking the advanced metrics for QBs, holistically he’s top 10. Guy is the truth.
You know, I still don't think he sees the game all that well yet. But he has the arm talent to fit the ball into some tight spots. And now that he has Diggs, that dividend is really paying off...
If Allen ever really "gets it" - and sees the game like a Brady, Mahomes, etc - than the sky is really the limit.
Herbert's left arm is stronger than Cousins's right arm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORmRMo647g - ( New Window )
Tannehill has a better arm.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Viking back-up Sean Mannion has a better arm than Cousins...
Wentz has a strong arm. Well, maybe not after he went vegan but before.
+1, even top 5
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+1, even top 5
Meant to say, definitely top 5
2. Mahomes
3. Rodgers
4. Stafford
5. Wilson
6. Herbert
7. Watson
8. Lamar
9. Kyler
10. Prescott
2. Mahomes
3. Rodgers
4. Stafford
5. Wilson
6. Herbert
7. Watson
8. Lamar
9. Kyler
10. Prescott
I think you have Herbert too low, but at least this is reasonable.
Murray has a better arm than LJax, btw.
Tannehill has a very, very good arm. Better than Presott's...
2. Allen
3. Stafford
4. Herbert
5. Rodgers
6. Wilson
7. Lock
8. Carr
9. Mayfield
10. Murray
HM: Darnold, Roethlisberger, Goff
Jones is probably not too far behind Goff
2. Allen
3. Stafford
4. Herbert
5. Rodgers
6. Wilson
7. Lock
8. Carr
9. Mayfield
10. Murray
HM: Darnold, Roethlisberger, Goff
Jones is probably not too far behind Goff
Forgot Tannehill..he and Ben are prob 11 and 12
Mayfield actually has a pretty good arm
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1. Allen
2. Mahomes
3. Rodgers
4. Stafford
5. Wilson
6. Herbert
7. Watson
8. Lamar
9. Kyler
10. Prescott
I think you have Herbert too low, but at least this is reasonable.
Murray has a better arm than LJax, btw.
Tannehill has a very, very good arm. Better than Presott's...
Might have Herbert too low. I like how he slings it short to medium. Need to see more of the long ball. I'm sure he's great at it. I don't think he is any better than Mahomes or Rodgers though.
I have Watson on my list. Excellent arm talent. By the way Cosell has been in love with Stafford's arm talent for years. I think he still feels Stafford has the best arm in the game, based on ability to make every throw, and every tough throw.
Velocity Combine results - ( New Window )
Arm strength isn’t so much distance (although it’s a factor). It’s the ability to get the ball to the target with velocity and zip. To throw the ball on a rope/line basically anywhere on the field. And you know it when you see it.
Watch the 3 TDs Mahomes threw to Hill on Sunday in Tampa. Those throws are missiles. On the 20 yarder to Hill, Carlton Davis is right there with tight coverage. All over Hill. But the ball is thrown with such velocity that once Davis turns to spot the ball it’s already in Hill’s hands.
I’ve been on enough college and pro sidelines - fortune enough to have a great friend in the press - to see and actually hear it. And then you can spot it on TV.
Right now Herbert has it. Allen has it. Rodgers has it. This uncanny ability to generate unusual velocity compared to their peers.
Yeah, he's just different. Did you see the 75 yarder to Hill on Sunday? The ball traveled 62 yards in the air and it was probably 10 feet in the air at its peak. Just a laser with a flick of the wrist. The majority of the QBs are putting enough air under that ball that is looks like they just hit a pitching wedge.
To me, Elway, Marino and Rodgers were the best throwers of a football I have seen in my lifetime. Favre in the hunt, too.
But Mahomes is doing things with arm angles, body contortions, poor mechanics, etc that I've never seen. And still making winning plays...
In regular stats, he's 7th at 68.8%. Essentially tied with Mahomes and Watson. Oh, and he's 9th in yards per attempt.
Million dollar arm, ten cent head...
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone be able to throw on the run in the opposite direction with the kind of zip and accuracy he does every single week, not even John Elway.
Yeah, he's just different. Did you see the 75 yarder to Hill on Sunday? The ball traveled 62 yards in the air and it was probably 10 feet in the air at its peak. Just a laser with a flick of the wrist. The majority of the QBs are putting enough air under that ball that is looks like they just hit a pitching wedge.
To me, Elway, Marino and Rodgers were the best throwers of a football I have seen in my lifetime. Favre in the hunt, too.
But Mahomes is doing things with arm angles, body contortions, poor mechanics, etc that I've never seen. And still making winning plays...
Mahomes is as good as those guys, all things considered. He has equal velocity to anyone and he is the best thrower of the football when on the move. His ability to quick release lasers when on the move is his super power. Others have been good or great at it - Elway/Rodgers - but in that regard Mahomes is unmatched.
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Josh Allen is #1 in arm strength, but not even a top ten in accuracy. Hell I'd bet he's not top twenty in accuracy without checking advanced stats metrics.
In regular stats, he's 7th at 68.8%. Essentially tied with Mahomes and Watson. Oh, and he's 9th in yards per attempt.
Im a big Allen guy, but was assuming he’d be middle of pack here, but checking the advanced metrics for QBs, holistically he’s top 10. Guy is the truth.
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Josh Allen is #1 in arm strength, but not even a top ten in accuracy. Hell I'd bet he's not top twenty in accuracy without checking advanced stats metrics.
In regular stats, he's 7th at 68.8%. Essentially tied with Mahomes and Watson. Oh, and he's 9th in yards per attempt.
Im a big Allen guy, but was assuming he’d be middle of pack here, but checking the advanced metrics for QBs, holistically he’s top 10. Guy is the truth.
You know, I still don't think he sees the game all that well yet. But he has the arm talent to fit the ball into some tight spots. And now that he has Diggs, that dividend is really paying off...
If Allen ever really "gets it" - and sees the game like a Brady, Mahomes, etc - than the sky is really the limit.
Jones doesn't have top-10 arm talent. Not even close.
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Jones arced a perfectly thrown ball to Slayton that easily went 60+ yards on Sunday. Baldy also mentioned that DJ is the #1 QB ranked on deep passes
Jones doesn't have top-10 arm talent. Not even close.
LOL, okay well you tell Baldinger that he's wrong about an NFL stat he threw out there