for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

NGT: Wentz/Eagles analysis from Brett Kollman

TJ : 12/1/2020 6:57 pm
Saw this and I was impressed with the reasoning backed up by film. Didn't see it posted here.
First time watching this guy's channel so I have no idea how his opinions pan out over time but I was entertained.

Brett Kollman on Carson Wentz - ( New Window )
Where was this guy last year  
HomerJones45 : 12/1/2020 7:20 pm : link
when Wentz threw 27 td passes against 7 int and hit 63% of his passes.

I think he's having a year like that one Eli had with picks and everyone here panicked or thought he was nursing an injury. Wentz needs a couple of healthy o-linemen and a receiver or two to step up, and he will be fine. Pedersen scrapping some of the RPO stuff might help too because Wentz takes a royal beating.
RE: Where was this guy last year  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/1/2020 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15063759 HomerJones45 said:
Quote:
when Wentz threw 27 td passes against 7 int and hit 63% of his passes.

I think he's having a year like that one Eli had with picks and everyone here panicked or thought he was nursing an injury. Wentz needs a couple of healthy o-linemen and a receiver or two to step up, and he will be fine. Pedersen scrapping some of the RPO stuff might help too because Wentz takes a royal beating.


While this is possible, there is zero historical precedent for what Wentz is doing right now. The league has never seen a 5th year QB regress like he has. It’s a little bit different than Eli as well because the option route is barely a thing in football anymore.
Brett Kolmann is also great at the micro of breaking down QB play  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/1/2020 8:20 pm : link
But often misses the macro picture imo
Wentz's OL  
allstarjim : 12/1/2020 9:01 pm : link
Is literally in shambles. As bad as the Giants have had it in Eli's last few years, it's that bad if not worse. Wentz is a very good QB, but he's not Superman.
RE: Wentz's OL  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/1/2020 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15063838 allstarjim said:
Quote:
Is literally in shambles. As bad as the Giants have had it in Eli's last few years, it's that bad if not worse. Wentz is a very good QB, but he's not Superman.


Was watching Cowherd today and he had an interesting point, and I immediately flashed to a play last night that made zero sense. Sports media in NE is brutal. He’s hearing it all over the place, he isn’t the guy that won the playoffs SB, and his team just drafted a QB in second round.

There was a play last night that he was running 30 yards down the field 1 v 1 on a safety and he tries to bowl the guy over. It made zero sense for a 30 plus million dollar QB with an extensive injury history and guy scored a 40 on his wonderlic. He’s out there trying to be Superman with nothing around him because he’s feeling it. His decision making is so piss poor it’s hard to fathom. The thing is, the situation they are in isn’t getting better till 2023! The Eagles sold their future for that SB, but I think they were hoping Wentz (when healthy) is one of those elite QBs that solves a lot of warts. Personally, I think he’s more a perennial top 8-12 type now and they are fucked for near future. I was a big believer in Wentz going into draft and thought he was an elite QB. Was kind of depressed when Eagles made the move for him. My hope is he gets traded to Colts and wins a SB for them, rubbing it in Philly’s face.
RE: RE: Wentz's OL  
TJ : 12/1/2020 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15063846 Zeke's Alibi said:
Quote:

There was a play last night that he was running 30 yards down the field 1 v 1 on a safety and he tries to bowl the guy over. It made zero sense for a 30 plus million dollar QB with an extensive injury history and guy scored a 40 on his wonderlic. He’s out there trying to be Superman with nothing around him because he’s feeling it.


Kollman believes "hero ball" is one of the things contributing to Wentz bad play and he had a couple examples in the video clips.
RE: Where was this guy last year  
NYG07 : 12/1/2020 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15063759 HomerJones45 said:
Quote:
when Wentz threw 27 td passes against 7 int and hit 63% of his passes.

I think he's having a year like that one Eli had with picks and everyone here panicked or thought he was nursing an injury. Wentz needs a couple of healthy o-linemen and a receiver or two to step up, and he will be fine. Pedersen scrapping some of the RPO stuff might help too because Wentz takes a royal beating.


I agree with this. Wentz is a good (not great) QB who is on a dogshit team with injuries all over the place and a trash o-line. He has been terrible this year but he is trying to do too much because his team sucks. Remember when Eli had 16 interceptions in 6 games to start 2013? Wentz is overpaid and the Eagles have no depth and are an aging, overpaid team all around.

I still think he can win with the right team, and I am glad it is not the Eagles because they are in big trouble the next couple of years.
I think the most interesting part was the technical breakdown  
bigbluescot : 12/2/2020 4:57 am : link
of Wentz's technical breakdown. There could be any number of reasons for this, some of which he went into, although it would perhaps be more illustrative if he'd went into whether or not this was getting worse as the season goes on.

On the clips shown, Wentz's footwork and body positioning was all messed up. That might be poor technique coming in due to a messed up offseason or it might be a reaction to the breakdown of the OL, thats why it'd be interesting to see if it's getting better or worse.
RE: Wentz's OL  
Jay on the Island : 12/2/2020 10:47 am : link
In comment 15063838 allstarjim said:
Quote:
Is literally in shambles. As bad as the Giants have had it in Eli's last few years, it's that bad if not worse. Wentz is a very good QB, but he's not Superman.

He was a very good QB, it's not just the protection it's his accuracy and decision making that are his biggest issues now.
Back to the Corner