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Jones will be on field with trainers "moving around"

nygiants16 : 12/3/2020 11:30 am
Going to get him throwing a little bit as well, Judge said reports from trainers yesterday were positive..
It appears Judge learned the art of deception  
giants#1 : 12/3/2020 11:32 am : link
from the master...
RE: It appears Judge learned the art of deception  
Big Blue '56 : 12/3/2020 11:33 am : link
In comment 15065035 giants#1 said:
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Can’t see how Jones could play  
BillT : 12/3/2020 11:34 am : link
Makes as little sense as letting him back on the field last Sunday.
RE: It appears Judge learned the art of deception  
Jay on the Island : 12/3/2020 11:37 am : link
In comment 15065035 giants#1 said:
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Yes sir, I expect Jones to be listed as Questionable all week long with the Giants claiming that they hope that he can go Sunday only to be ruled out on game day. The benefit of having Thorson on the PS is that they can have him practice as McCoy's backup all week and then be activated on Sunday if/when Jones is ruled out.
Jones will travel to Seattle  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2020 11:39 am : link
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RE: Can’t see how Jones could play  
UConn4523 : 12/3/2020 11:43 am : link
In comment 15065039 BillT said:
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Makes as little sense as letting him back on the field last Sunday.


Why? Us fans know next to nothing on his daily treatment and overall prognosis.
I am sure he has been getting treatments all week.  
GiantBlue : 12/3/2020 11:46 am : link
If it is indeed a minor tweak and not a major tear, then he might be able to go sans his typical running play selection.

The key is whether he can plant that leg to get some oomph on the ball.

Either way, it won't be an easy game.
RE: Jones will travel to Seattle  
giants#1 : 12/3/2020 11:46 am : link
In comment 15065045 nygiants16 said:
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Are you guessing or did you see this somewhere?

Unless he's likely to play (like 70-80% he dresses), it doesn't seem wise to send him on a 6 hour flight where he can't keep loose.
I am sure he has been getting treatments all week.  
GiantBlue : 12/3/2020 11:47 am : link
If it is indeed a minor tweak and not a major tear, then he might be able to go sans his typical running play selection.

The key is whether he can plant that leg to get some oomph on the ball.

Either way, it won't be an easy game.
Anyone remember in 2015  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2020 11:48 am : link
Beckham tweaked his hamstring in that sunday night game against the niners, everyone said no chance he plays and then played in the thrusday night game against the eagles..

you dont know how bad Jones hamstring is, the giants will not put him out there if hr is not ready, the fact he is traveling hr is a good sign though
RE: RE: Jones will travel to Seattle  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2020 11:49 am : link
In comment 15065053 giants#1 said:
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Are you guessing or did you see this somewhere?

Unless he's likely to play (like 70-80% he dresses), it doesn't seem wise to send him on a 6 hour flight where he can't keep loose.


Joe Judge jist said it
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Dnew15 : 12/3/2020 11:53 am : link
say what you will about DJ as a QB, you can't question the fact that he's one tough SOB.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2020 11:53 am : link
Just don't rush him back. Thankfully I don't believe they will.
i think we might be underestimating  
ryanmkeane : 12/3/2020 12:05 pm : link
the fact that the injury might not be that bad. Him not going to the locker room during the Cincy game I think was a good sign. If after a few days of ice and rest Jones is 90% or so, there wouldn't be any reason for him not to play..

If there is risk of more damage to the hammy while playing, absolutely not. But it might be a pain tolerance thing. Guess we will see today and tomorrow.
RE: Anyone remember in 2015  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/3/2020 12:20 pm : link
In comment 15065057 nygiants16 said:
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Beckham tweaked his hamstring in that sunday night game against the niners, everyone said no chance he plays and then played in the thrusday night game against the eagles..

you dont know how bad Jones hamstring is, the giants will not put him out there if hr is not ready, the fact he is traveling hr is a good sign though


What DJ had was more than a tweak. A tweak and he comes into the game last week and can still throw the ball
I'd be shocked if he plays  
Ron Johnson : 12/3/2020 12:23 pm : link
The team will rally around McCoy.

Judge will play up the "nobody gives us a chance" angle. Team responds. It'll be a one score game, mid 4th qtr.

RE: i think we might be underestimating  
rsjem1979 : 12/3/2020 12:25 pm : link
In comment 15065079 ryanmkeane said:
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the fact that the injury might not be that bad. Him not going to the locker room during the Cincy game I think was a good sign. If after a few days of ice and rest Jones is 90% or so, there wouldn't be any reason for him not to play..

If there is risk of more damage to the hammy while playing, absolutely not. But it might be a pain tolerance thing. Guess we will see today and tomorrow.


Hamstring injuries are notorious for being "re-aggravated" or worse. There are games to be played after this one, if Colt McCoy has to play, I'd rather it be one game in Seattle to let Jones rest as opposed to 4.5 games because Jones makes it worse.
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christian : 12/3/2020 12:38 pm : link
Quarterbacks play through hamstring injuries. Russel Wilson was on the injury report with a hamstring basically all of 2018. If it's not severe, he'll play.

The extent to which that impacts his play is another story. The dude who came back in the game last week isn't going to cut it. He's got to be feeling and moving better than that.
I've been thinking all week that many here  
Chris684 : 12/3/2020 12:39 pm : link
are/were getting ahead of themselves with Jones being out this week. Although the negative angle with anything and everything comes as no surprise.

He still might not play but can we wait to see what the team has to say about that first?
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FatMan in Charlotte : 12/3/2020 12:43 pm : link
In comment 15065089 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15065057 nygiants16 said:


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Beckham tweaked his hamstring in that sunday night game against the niners, everyone said no chance he plays and then played in the thrusday night game against the eagles..

you dont know how bad Jones hamstring is, the giants will not put him out there if hr is not ready, the fact he is traveling hr is a good sign though



What DJ had was more than a tweak. A tweak and he comes into the game last week and can still throw the ball


The MRI called it a strain. That would be a "tweak". It wasn't a pull or a tear which are significantly worse. A strain is usually a week-to-week designation while a pull is a month or longer and a tear is surgery and end of the season.
RE: RE: Jones will travel to Seattle  
cokeduplt : 12/3/2020 12:51 pm : link
In comment 15065053 giants#1 said:
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Are you guessing or did you see this somewhere?

Unless he's likely to play (like 70-80% he dresses), it doesn't seem wise to send him on a 6 hour flight where he can't keep loose.



Judges said he would
There are some videos on twitter  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2020 12:55 pm : link
of Jones moving around throwing, looks like he can plant and throw, looked like pretty good zip, not a lolleypop throw..

Moving around about 75% it looked like
I’m not going to listen to anyone  
Mark in ATL : 12/3/2020 1:07 pm : link
about Jones’ injury and possibility of playing until I hear from Chris Mortensen. I hope my memory is correct about Mortensen’s reporting regarding Eli’s condition some years ago.
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Zeke's Alibi : 12/3/2020 1:24 pm : link
In comment 15065107 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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The MRI called it a strain. That would be a "tweak". It wasn't a pull or a tear which are significantly worse. A strain is usually a week-to-week designation while a pull is a month or longer and a tear is surgery and end of the season.


If that’s accurate. All we have is a sources say type deal here correct? Is it beyond the realm of possibility that there is some gamesmanship going on here. Fact of the matter there is only a handful of people with this information and Judge comes from the BB school of things. Really having a hardtime believing that isn’t a grade 2 type pull. Hoping I’m wrong here, but I guess we will find out Sunday. I’ve heard the argument, well they wouldn’t fly him out there if he they thought he couldn’t go, like these guys are flying cramped commercial like Joe Schmo. DJ can stand and walk around the plane all flight if he wanted to.
If he can plant and throw  
Chris684 : 12/3/2020 1:30 pm : link
he probably plays and maybe they call a more conservative gameplan with him running, if they design runs for him at all.
If Jones sits  
5BowlsSoon : 12/3/2020 1:44 pm : link
A. Jones sits And this extra rest pretty much guarantees he will be fine here on out

Vs

B. He plays somewhat damaged with limitations with the possibility of further injuring it

No brainer for ....I choose A
RE: Anyone remember in 2015  
shyster : 12/3/2020 2:09 pm : link
In comment 15065057 nygiants16 said:
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Beckham tweaked his hamstring in that sunday night game against the niners, everyone said no chance he plays and then played in the thrusday night game against the eagles..



Eagles game was on Monday night, not Thursday.
RE: I’m not going to listen to anyone  
djm : 12/3/2020 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15065134 Mark in ATL said:
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about Jones’ injury and possibility of playing until I hear from Chris Mortensen. I hope my memory is correct about Mortensen’s reporting regarding Eli’s condition some years ago.


Yep--if memory serves Eli never recovered from that crippling injury. Poor guy could have had a good career here. At least Mort scooped us and saved us any drama.
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ColHowPepper : 12/3/2020 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15065104 christian said:
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Quarterbacks play through hamstring injuries. Russel Wilson was on the injury report with a hamstring basically all of 2018. If it's not severe, he'll play.

The extent to which that impacts his play is another story. The dude who came back in the game last week isn't going to cut it. He's got to be feeling and moving better than that.
christian, you're a bright poster, but your two paras contradict one another. Of course, it's going to impact his play, even if 'feeling and moving better' than when he went out the second time.

1979 above has it right:
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Hamstring injuries are notorious for being "re-aggravated" or worse. There are games to be played after this one, if Colt McCoy has to play, I'd rather it be one game in Seattle to let Jones rest as opposed to 4.5 games because Jones makes it worse.
The OL, while improving, is not the OL that protects Rothliesberger, or the Giants' OL that protected Eli circa 2010. Jones just can't sit back there, like a sitting duck, and throw the ball. He's competitive, he's going to want to zig and zag and run. Those are the kinds of jerky, sudden movements and tweaks that convert a "strain" (and I believe it's well more than that) to a bona fide 2nd degree strain/pull.
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