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NFT: Carton and Roberts

CMicks3110 : 12/3/2020 10:29 pm
I know there was a thread the other day on Maggie and Moose, and some comments inevitably veered towards Carton and Robert new show.

I have tried listening to them, and I just can't. I love Evan, but Carton is such an absolute disgrace to sports talk radio. I don't get why the FAN thinks the audience wants to hear his schtick?

He *does not* talk sports. He's just not a sports guy. Beyond being a massive douche bag, which Francesa was too, he just has no knowledge, and doesn't seem to care to talk about our teams.

It's just him telling personal stories, and trying to have a good old time with his new pal Evan.

and Evan just goes along with it. There is no analysis, the interviews suck, the debates suck.

Carton has good energy, but he just wants to be some entertainer, just telling stories about his days, who he meets, and random shit.

WTF is the fan thinking. They need to get him out of there ASAP. I hate Michael Kay, but at least his show talks about sports; maggie and moose are very mediocre, but they at least talk about sports; the only show now that provides any decent analysis about current events is probably Richard Neer on Saturday mornings and Ed Randall during baseball season.

I grew up listening to the FAN, Mike and the Mad Dog, Sweater and the Schmoozer, Beningo on overnights, Joe and Evan.

It's brutal and sad.
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Danny Kanell : 12/4/2020 12:56 pm : link
They will be the number 1 show in 6 months time. Maybe sooner. That's just the reality of it. As much of a douche Carton is, he gets ratings.
It's for the same reason ESPN has garbage programming  
Knineteen : 12/4/2020 1:39 pm : link
pander to the common idiot and they will watch.
Him getting so upset by the question from the WEEI guys  
moespree : 12/4/2020 1:45 pm : link
And then spending time on his show to attack them when they are not there to defend themselves is not a good look. Really does come off as can dish it out but can't take it typical bully.

Evan just wants to talk about who will get 10 minutes off the bench for Brooklyn next season.
i am definitely in the minority here...  
rsmith32 : 12/4/2020 3:46 pm : link
i actually enjoying listening to Carton, though I do understand everyone's reservations about him...I believe the repertoire btw him and Evan will get better over time.
RE: Cartoon is just a jerk, an unlistenable vulgarian. I feel bad for  
Matt M. : 12/4/2020 6:24 pm : link
In comment 15065580 Victor in CT said:
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Roberts because he's a decent guy and not a phony. I never listen to FAN during the week anymore. Saturday mornings with Neer, and a kid named JR is the afternoon is really good.

Dave Deihl fun on SUnday. Too bad is with that loser Moose.
Neer is very good and during spring and summer Ed Randall on Sunday is awesome. There is also a guy on Sunday morning who does a youth sports show that is usually interesting.
RE: I'm not a huge Carton fan but BBI skews older demographically  
Matt M. : 12/4/2020 6:29 pm : link
In comment 15065698 BestFeature said:
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Any chance that Carton is there fore the 18-24/18-34 demographic and not for you guys?
I don't buy it. When I was a teen to 20s I wanted sports. If I was listening to sports talk, I want sports talk. I'll watch something else for my fill of comedy, etc. Plus, the problem is he isn't funny, he isn't entertaining. I honestly don't see him hitting any demographic solidly, especially not now.
RE: Carton wants to be Howard Stern but he's not funny and not talented.  
Matt M. : 12/4/2020 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15065744 BLUATHRT said:
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He reminds me of a guy you'd come across sitting at the end of the bar, and you quickly realize you made a mistake sitting next to him.
Excellent analogy.
Evan talking about the Nets  
UConn4523 : 12/4/2020 7:13 pm : link
is making Carton squirm, it’s awesome.
RE: Evan talking about the Nets  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/4/2020 7:17 pm : link
In comment 15066162 UConn4523 said:
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is making Carton squirm, it’s awesome.


I'm assuming Carton is a Knicks fan? Or Carton is just clueless & doesn't know how to chime in?
To me he doesn’t know much more than the obvious  
UConn4523 : 12/4/2020 7:31 pm : link
about anything other than the teams he roots for. Instead of trying to get better at his job he just goes to the low hanging fruit which is to make fun of it sound disinterested in the convo.

He’s just not good at sports talk and the shock jock stuff isn’t much better.
I listened a bit at the end of the show..  
Sean : 12/4/2020 7:38 pm : link
Carton was telling a story about his relationship with Jerry Seinfeld, Evan got nothing in for about 10 minutes.

I like Evan’s Saturday morning show, but he isn’t able to articulate his thoughts Monday-Friday. It’s a shame.
Sean.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/4/2020 7:42 pm : link
I like Roberts solo; he knows his sports. Is he bit of a nerd? Yes, but whatever. He can talk about all sports articulately.
lol at Richard Neer  
Enzo : 12/4/2020 8:05 pm : link
aka Sir Sominex getting two shout-outs in this thread.
Carton has always been a second-rate morning shock jock  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/4/2020 8:20 pm : link
masquerading as a sports guy. Even his feud with Francesa was right out of the Stern playbook from being in a new market. They've basically made Evan, a pure sports guy, into Robin Quivers.

I think what's hilarious is - if it's not a staged gimmick - that he got upset about questions that he would have asked himself.

This is all on Chernoff, but Carton will be given every chance to beat Kay. Just feel bad for Evan.
RE: I listened a bit at the end of the show..  
Matt M. : 12/4/2020 8:30 pm : link
In comment 15066173 Sean said:
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Carton was telling a story about his relationship with Jerry Seinfeld, Evan got nothing in for about 10 minutes.

I like Evan’s Saturday morning show, but he isn’t able to articulate his thoughts Monday-Friday. It’s a shame.
His solo show on the weekend is good.
RE: To me he doesn’t know much more than the obvious  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/4/2020 9:43 pm : link
In comment 15066170 UConn4523 said:
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about anything other than the teams he roots for. Instead of trying to get better at his job he just goes to the low hanging fruit which is to make fun of it sound disinterested in the convo.

He’s just not good at sports talk and the shock jock stuff isn’t much better.


That’s the thing. There isn’t room for shock jocks on radio anymore unless they are supremely talented. Tampa has some solid guys that are syndicated I believe on the bone and I rarely tune in unless I’m commuting and looking for some local Tampa stuff. The podcasts are a billion times better and callers don’t add to the experience like they do to sports shows. The people that call those type of shows are often so dumb it hurts and it’s already showing with the callers they have on Evan and carton. Podcasts like the legion of skanks and Tim Dillon do it a billion times better.
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